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Q & A for FINAFLEX 1-ANDRO

Tekstorm said:
Most prohormones are shown to raise blood pressure on cycle, would it be wise to stay away from caffeine while on 1-Andro?
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should not be an issue at all
one cannot count the # of ppl who use caffeine and other stimulants, while concurrently being on hormonal cycle..
haven't heard of anybody dying from this combo yet
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
should not be an issue at all
one cannot count the # of ppl who use caffeine and other stimulants, while concurrently being on hormonal cycle..
haven't heard of anybody dying from this combo yet
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I know I drank 2 or 3 monsters a week while I was on cycle and had no issues
 
Thanks for the quick reply. If I encounter lethargy I wanted to have some kind of pick me up to get me through the work day.
 
Tekstorm said:
Thanks for the quick reply. If I encounter lethargy I wanted to have some kind of pick me up to get me through the work day.
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Yes like Snagency said.

Honestly though you shouldn't need them as your drive and energy levels should INCREASE while on cycle.

With the harsher methyl hormonal products on the market people often do encounter lethargy from taxation on the liver as well as other bodily organs. Our ph's are NOT methyls and won't cause any undue stress like the other mentioned products.
 
Lethargy

Iv read taking a test base on prohormones can help with lethargy ,is there any legal alternatives like say would testofen help?? My food intake is very high also
 
Rapidfire said:
Iv read taking a test base on prohormones can help with lethargy ,is there any legal alternatives like say would testofen help?? My food intake is very high also
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sure
stano is a very common go-to that acts as a base to combat lethargy..
I find personally that 1-Alpha works well for me as base (stacking with 1-Andro), not that I am going out & advising this..just sharing
dermacrine also is a nice option, among others
 
1-alpha as a base for 1-andro wth?!
Are they not the same thing but one with a longer life and better absorption as claimed?

IMO that's just getting more 1-DHEA in ur system.

I'd recommend stano and derma though, or epiandro.
 
MrPoop said:
1-alpha as a base for 1-andro wth?!
Are they not the same thing but one with a longer life and better absorption as claimed?

IMO that's just getting more 1-DHEA in ur system.

I'd recommend stano and derma though, or epiandro.
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no, actually they are somewhat different in their effects, fyi
and as I said - it works for me (some others who have tried as well), but it's not something I am advising
but since you are not the product specialist or affiliated with the company, I question why you are even posting in our section of the forum, and trying to advise how to use our products in our company Q&A thread?
 
Rapidfire said:
What sort of dosage would I run the tvar-15 at? Iv done serveral cycles before
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you probably don't want to know what i run that at :D srs
but - the conversion is not as significant in oral dosing (compared to injectable), so higher dosages are required to get results somewhat comparable
90mg/day is pretty common to see..some dose 100-150mg (and upward) daily

understand, i cannot advise you on such a product officially, other than in general terms, since we do not make a product such as that and the company tends to frown on me advising what dosage to use of oral steroids from other companies
 
Wow 90mg lol the bottle says 2 caps twice a day haha il ease onto it first week with 30mg tvar plus 3 caps a day of 1andro sounds good for first week then add another cap per compound next week
 
Rapidfire said:
Wow 90mg lol the bottle says 2 caps twice a day haha il ease onto it first week with 30mg tvar plus 3 caps a day of 1andro sounds good for first week then add another cap per compound next week
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yes, some users (few) have reported benefits at 40-45mg/day, and i agree if you have never done it before and are closer to a new user overall, rather an experienced one -- this may be advisable
always better to know the compound and experience it yourself, to make your own informed decision on how it treats you, and at what dosage
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
no, actually they are somewhat different in their effects, fyi
and as I said - it works for me (some others who have tried as well), but it's not something I am advising
but since you are not the product specialist or affiliated with the company, I question why you are even posting in our section of the forum, and trying to advise how to use our products in our company Q&A thread?
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Care to explain how they are different in their effects?
With the help of google the only quotes regarding 1 alpha and 1 andro from your company reps is that their effects are the same just that the alpha is the newer superior more powerful one without any further explanation.
Sure it works for you as a base, but are you sure you are running the alpha and andro on their own instead of having other bases?
Im pretty sure ive seen other finaflex reps explicitly state that u do not use 1-alpha or andro as a base for anything and if anything the andro would need a base to support it.

As a consumer that likes to be informed of all things, I love to scout around to observe and expand my wisdom, hence i'm here.
I like to clarify things more specifically instead of just reading "it can be used as a base" or "1 alpha has a ester attached hence it is longer lasting and better absorbed than the 1 andro while the 2 are basically the same".
 
MrPoop said:
Care to explain how they are different in their effects?
With the help of google the only quotes regarding 1 alpha and 1 andro from your company reps is that their effects are the same just that the alpha is the newer superior more powerful one without any further explanation.
Sure it works for you as a base, but are you sure you are running the alpha and andro on their own instead of having other bases?
Im pretty sure ive seen other finaflex reps explicitly state that u do not use 1-alpha or andro as a base for anything and if anything the andro would need a base to support it.

As a consumer that likes to be informed of all things, I love to scout around to observe and expand my wisdom, hence i'm here.
I like to clarify things more specifically instead of just reading "it can be used as a base" or "1 alpha has a ester attached hence it is longer lasting and better absorbed than the 1 andro while the 2 are basically the same".
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it is fine to ask questions, we encourage education and learning
it is not however fine to carry yourself as the authority and instructor of our products, in our education threads
I can see that you have done some reading from the popular sites on these products, that has not escaped my attention -- your quote on "lethargy and 600mg to be effective" comes right out of prohormonedb.com ....

correct, 1-Andro is not a base
I experimented during my prep to nationals last summer with using 1-Alpha for my base, in a couple different stacks that included 1-Andro..
tho I personally get little to no lethargy experiences from 1-Andro, I was seeing some slight issue and decided to toss in the 1-Alpha instead of dermacrine (which I was out of at the time and had also used) or stano .... it worked like a charm, and I had zero lethargy issues during that time
technically and with respect to advising, I state that a more traditional base be used to combat any unwanted sides above -- I simply share my own experience in what I have done, and what has worked ... and in fact, this discussion is not the first time it has taken place on this forum, it has been mentioned multiple times despite your claim of personally having not seen such

as for your query "am I sure I was not using something else as a base", uh yeah man, that was kind of a silly question
the only other things I was running were methylated compounds and tvar, as (mentioned above) I was out of derma att
 
Guidence on 1-Alpha, 1-Andro and Epi-V cycle please

I have used 1-Andro and Epi-V on a cycle I did last year for eight weeks in a 4 week 4 dose Andro then a 4 week 2 andro 2 epi stack and saw excellent results. After a job loss, breakup with my live in GF and cross country move to a new job I am now settled in and back at the gym. I have left over 1-andro (91) and Epi (66) and would like to incorporate it in a new 8 week cycle. I am intrigued by the new 1-Alpha and would like the know if I can safely use it as a jump start and a bridge to the 1-andro, Epi-v stack i used so effectively last year.

My thinking is this -
1) 5 days - 2 1-alpha (10 caps)
2) 25 days - 2 1-alpha and 1 1-andro as a stack/ bridge (1 bottle of 1-Alpha used, 25 caps 1-andro)
3) 33 days 2 caps 1-andro, 2 caps Epi-v taken 1/1 in a.m. and 1/1 p.m.
This would use all of what I have on hand with the addition of 1 bottle of 1-alpha in 63 days which I feel is reasonable. I will use pure test and black for pct and I use milk thistle

My thinking is since they are basically the same with 1-alpha having superior absorbtion and half life it would get me "on" faster and maintain into the 1-andro/Epi cycle but I am still being conservative given the longer cycle.

Any thoughts from the reps? Is there a better way to use what I have available to me? BTW I am 51 and am looking for mass then to lean out. I am currently 170 with 15% body fat and looking for 180 at 10%

Thank you in advance for your responses - I have found Finaflex reps to be excellent
 
you could do that
a lot of ppl wouldn't stack the andro/epiV combo, but at the tail end of a cycle like that, I'd say go for it
optionally, you could just run the andro out, then run epiV solo
keep in mind, epiV will work best when you are <10% bf, and incrementally better the leaner you are below that mark
 
Thank you for your quick reply -
I am still getting good results on just diet and training so I am not quite sure when I will start the cycle, but at least I know what to order. I will try to lean out a bit but I feel I can ajust half way through depending on how my fat% is with the Epi. The 2/2 combo enabled me to still gain some mass and I hardened and leaned out quite a bit. I am also a competitive sailor and cyclist so summers I lean out anyway. I want to keep the muscle and start the lean is my thought process.
 
help for my first time use of finaflex

So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

I'm 21 years old
I weigh 170 pounds,
I'm 5ft 9"
And around 10% body fat

4 week cycle:
2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

4 Week PCT:
4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
 
shiiina said:
So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

I'm 21 years old
I weigh 170 pounds,
I'm 5ft 9"
And around 10% body fat

4 week cycle:
2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

4 Week PCT:
4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
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welcome to the forum...
you got some more researching to do however, before you should be considering these products

off the top, I know the fad thing everybody talks about is "cut while gain muscle"..
truth be told, very few ppl can accomplish that, takes skill and experience, you are better off concentrating on one or the other

as I said above: andro and epi not the best stack to roll with, and I certainly wouldn't suggest it as your first cycle

you would not take any REV PCT while on cycle (unless needed), and you would never take REV PCT in morning at any time...this is meant to be dosed at bedtime, and on empty stomach

honestly, I would suggest you do some more research and self-education before engaging in PH use
we are pleased you have chosen FINAFLEX as your initial product of choice, and suitability-wise, these are the right products for a first-timer to be looking at (mild and safe, very low potential of minimal side effects), but personally I think one should be well-educated on hormonal substances and the products in question before one considers using them

thanks for your post
 
Not trying to call you out Shinna but I couldn't help but notice your post looks very similar to this other post in another thread by a guy named gabriel. Is there a reason why you changed your name? I noticed your BF went up 2% in 5 days but no weight gain.

GABRIELS POST FROM TODAY:

So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle. I would like to test out and see if doing an anabolic cycle is right for me.

I'm 21 years old
I weigh 170 pounds,
I'm 5ft 9"
And around 12% body fat
I was wondering should i use finaflex 1 andro or alpha
My guess is andro since im new but other than that i have no idea how much i should take
im thinking
4 week cycle:
4 capsules of 1-andro a day (2 in morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

4 Week PCT:
4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

any help would be greatly appreciated as id love some extra gains even if their minor, i workout about 4-5 times a week

YOUR POST:

So i'm a first timer and honestly have no idea what i should do exactly, my goal right now is to cut while gaining a small amount of muscle.

I'm 21 years old
I weigh 170 pounds,
I'm 5ft 9"
And around 10% body fat

4 week cycle:
2 capsules of 1-andro a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of epi-v a day (1 in morning, 1 at night) for 4 weeks
2 capsules of PCT revolution black (1 in the morning, 1 at night ) for 4 weeks
Is there anything else i should be taking with this?

4 Week PCT:
4 capsules of PCT revolution black (2 in the morning, 2 at night) for 4 weeks
I'm not sure if i need anything else like pure test? or something

any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
 
Hello all........
I used h-droll about five or more years ago and within two weeks my strength jumped up very good BUT it shut me down hard within that same time period. Luckily I had a serm on hand. I want to try the 1-Andro.and Epi-v bridge stack but because of my prohormone sensitivity I'm kind of reluctant to do so. What would be a good starting point for me if I do decide to jump back in feet first. Im 51 years old and don't want to shut down my sexual performance like h-droll did.
 
young4life said:
Hello all........
I used h-droll about five or more years ago and within two weeks my strength jumped up very good BUT it shut me down hard within that same time period. Luckily I had a serm on hand. I want to try the 1-Andro.and Epi-v bridge stack but because of my prohormone sensitivity I'm kind of reluctant to do so. What would be a good starting point for me if I do decide to jump back in feet first. Im 51 years old and don't want to shut down my sexual performance like h-droll did.
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you cannot compare effects of a methylated hormonal compound like hdrol, to a mild 2-step dhea compound like andro
please read the thread further...
to answer your question however, just stick with andro alone, minimum dose, and graduate dosing (if needed) from there
no need to jump into any stacks, and andro/epi not the best choice of stack anyway (as I have now said couple times on this page alone now..)
 
I read the thread up until page 45 or so then jumped ahead. Then plenty of people was using that stack but it looks like times has changed from then to now. I did not want to stack the two together I wanted to "bridge" the two. I may try your 1-andro as u described to see where that takes me. Do I need to run a PCT while on and after the cycle along with your Pure Test after cycle?
 
young4life said:
I read the thread up until page 45 or so then jumped ahead. Then plenty of people was using that stack but it looks like times has changed from then to now. I did not want to stack the two together I wanted to "bridge" the two. I may try your 1-andro as u described to see where that takes me. Do I need to run a PCT while on and after the cycle along with your Pure Test after cycle?
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Only after cycle not while on.

But yes REV PCT along with Pure Test for PCT is good.
 
Ok I'm a little bit confused. It is my 3rd day running 1-andro and I have been taking organ shield along side it as a cycle support, but I have not really read about anybody taking an on cycle support, just a pct. should I keep running organ shield, run both, or just pct? Also I just upped the dose from 2 to 3 a day as of today, that a good idea? By the way this is my first cycle. Thanks
 
Blacksissiors said:
Ok I'm a little bit confused. It is my 3rd day running 1-andro and I have been taking organ shield along side it as a cycle support, but I have not really read about anybody taking an on cycle support, just a pct. should I keep running organ shield, run both, or just pct? Also I just upped the dose from 2 to 3 a day as of today, that a good idea? By the way this is my first cycle. Thanks
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With 1- andro there is really no need for cycle support.

It won't hurt, but I would save it for maybe a future cycle with a harsher ph.(not saying that you should, but most will probably take that route, I have)

Enjoy your cycle...1-andro is a nice ph to start with, and even for experienced users it has it's place.

Have some in my stash to play around with later:)
 
Blacksissiors said:
Ok I'm a little bit confused. It is my 3rd day running 1-andro and I have been taking organ shield along side it as a cycle support, but I have not really read about anybody taking an on cycle support, just a pct. should I keep running organ shield, run both, or just pct? Also I just upped the dose from 2 to 3 a day as of today, that a good idea? By the way this is my first cycle. Thanks
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looks like ed has given you the timely skinny on this
to reiterate, on-cycle support is not required with our 1-Andro
also, dosing is fine, please observe the dosing of 2-4 caps listed on bottle
let us know if you have further questions

and ed - congrats on the new gig mate!
looks like the company picked up a knowledgeable hand, nice guy as well
best to you
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
looks like ed has given you the timely skinny on this
to reiterate, on-cycle support is not required with our 1-Andro
also, dosing is fine, please observe the dosing of 2-4 caps listed on bottle
let us know if you have further questions

and ed - congrats on the new gig mate!
looks like the company picked up a knowledgeable hand, nice guy as well
best to you
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Thanks snags....learned a lot from the best;)

Once a freak........

Always following your progress.
 
Thanks guys it helped a lot. I guess my only other question would be why do people run pct while running 1-andro and should I as well. So then I would be running all 3
 
Blacksissiors said:
Thanks guys it helped a lot. I guess my only other question would be why do people run pct while running 1-andro and should I as well. So then I would be running all 3
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long ago, the company advised REV PCT along with 1-ANDRO, as the pct has liver and prostate support included, and also battles excess estrogen with the arimistane..
while you can still use both concurrently, we have found it better to advise use of the REV PCT only in the event you are experiencing excess estrogenic activity....then, it is certainly a viable option to help alleviate
with the mildness of the ANDRO/ALPHA compounds, going all-out with cycle support and instituting an AI right off the bat in the cycle can be frivolous and a waste of funds..we now choose to be reactive about guidance, rather than the proactive approach of all safeguards in play from the outset
 
Hello...I've been doing some research on this product and decided I wanted to give it a try. My question is, Is there anything I NEED to take with this product and if not, is there anything I can take to maximize the effects of this product. I am currently on a decent bulking nutrition plan. The only sups I use right now are Creatine and occasional Whey...thanks
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
this info can be found on all our bottles..please consult label for future references

Finaflex 1-Andro 160 mg
3-hydroxy-5 alpha-androst- 1-en-17-one 110 mg
Begamottin (6,7,- dihydroxybergamottin) (DHB) 50 mg
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It's actually not on the bottles that I have but thanks
 
I've been reading much into this PH , and will be starting my cycle soon. I used to take PWO such as Driven Sport Craze , would it be advisable to stay away from such stims while on 1-Andro . Thanks in advance.
 
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iamtybaby said:
Hello...I've been doing some research on this product and decided I wanted to give it a try. My question is, Is there anything I NEED to take with this product and if not, is there anything I can take to maximize the effects of this product. I am currently on a decent bulking nutrition plan. The only sups I use right now are Creatine and occasional Whey...thanks
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1 - no, nothing you NEED to take with 1-Andro...
2 - try maximizing your results with a clean, well-balanced and surplus dietary intake...always follow cycle with proper pct
 
sorry, didn't see it

iamtybaby said:
Hello...I've been doing some research on this product and decided I wanted to give it a try. My question is, Is there anything I NEED to take with this product and if not, is there anything I can take to maximize the effects of this product. I am currently on a decent bulking nutrition plan. The only sups I use right now are Creatine and occasional Whey...thanks
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1 - no, nothing you NEED to take with 1-Andro...
2 - try maximizing your results with a clean, well-balanced and surplus dietary intake...always follow cycle with proper pct
 
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