Put as much mass as possible

Kasper710

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Ok I have run two previous cycle one was test 500 primo 500 and var and the other was test 500 primo 500 eq 400 and var.
I’m sitting at 93kg now about 12% body fat my goal is to put and keep as much mass as possible.
My idea for the cycle is
Test 1-12 500mg
Npp 1-10 300mg
I have aromasin and I’ll run it 12.5 mg e4d I also have cabergoline on hand .
My dilemma is on an oral to kick start
Dbol 30mg or Adrol 50 mg I know adrol is the best but I’m in fear of toxicity and how this would affect my everyday life and training . I like dbol for the feeling great effect but the estrogen conversion rate is a pain to watch especially with deca. As far as finisher I’m going to run anavar from week 10-14. I’m going to adjust and change my diet every week as my weight goes up. I want to hear opinions and recommendation from the veterans here.
 
I wouldnt run dbol with NPP, to me youd lose all the benefits of using NPP over deca.

Ive also preferred running NPP at around 600 per week. Probably my favourite compound other than var.
 
Yeah this is true so you think maybe I can start with anavar to make my gains more hard and lean or don’t use oral at the start at all
 
This wont necessarily be the "most mass as possible" but itll be damn good quality lean mass and strength:

Test 500
NPP 600
Var last 6-8wks @50mg/d

Id frontload the NPP, but wouldnt necessarily recommend doing so. Id also prefer test prop, and run that and the NPP for 8 weeks. Ideally Id start the cycle coming off a kcal deficit. The gainz would be about as good as you could get.
 
Nac said:
This wont necessarily be the "most mass as possible" but itll be damn good quality lean mass and strength:

Test 500
NPP 600
Var last 6-8wks @50mg/d

Id frontload the NPP, but wouldnt necessarily recommend doing so. Id also prefer test prop, and run that and the NPP for 8 weeks. Ideally Id start the cycle coming off a kcal deficit. The gainz would be about as good as you could get.
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600mg seems a lot and I think is like asking for problems with prolactin
 
Kasper710 said:
600mg seems a lot and I think is like asking for problems with prolactin
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Nah. Controlling e2 is what works best for most guys.

You can be more aggressive with NPP than deca. But, I dont think 600mg is aggressive. You were going to run 350mg of drol on top of the 300mg NPP; 600mg NPP + adding the var is not necessarily "side effect city".
 
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