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Jay888999 said:
Why do u keep dropping so low on your 3rd set..your banging out 185 for 8 you say....then 155 for 8..you increase 20 lbs on set 2 then decrease 20lbs on just your 3rd set...

same with you flat presses,i dont get why you do this.especially on your 3rd set and ""why are you staing in the same rep range on the diff weight"..all sounds a bit out of wack to me.why are you dropping 50 lbs on your 3rd set when if u banged out 8 at 185 u can bang out atleast 5 or 6 at 195 and possibly 2 at 205...
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Truthfully there isn't any people around, I have done those higher weights I just worry about not getting it up with no spotter. I thought I would try a little more volume add to the pumps

I try to make my own routines, if my chest is a little sore the next day then I am working it hard enough. Any advice is good advice.
 
Budman7811 said:
Truthfully there isn't any people around, I have done those higher weights I just worry about not getting it up with no spotter. I thought I would try a little more volume add to the pumps

I try to make my own routines, if my chest is a little sore the next day then I am working it hard enough. Any advice is good advice.
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you will not make real gains by doing such a thng..u will at one point not get sore and not continue to grow nor get stronger..dude there isnt a single person u can ask to spot you? I dont like asking for spotters cause most ppl are ****ing retards. Dude,use DB's then,your not going to progress with what u are doing.Go use Dbs,more stabalizers involved,plus not u dont have to worry about a spotter as much..dont focus on bb only.I train alone and due to that i use mainly Dbs and smoth machines most.I never exclude BB though its used very oftn in my routines.

but id change what your doing..
 
i actually havent used smith machine for chest in months,but will tommorow..my routine is already in my head.

1-Smith machine 45 degree presses
2-30 degree DB flys
3-Flat bench press
4-Hammer strength incline presses
5-Cable flys


Since Flat bench will be my 3rd exercse i will either stay light for high reps or stay heavy for 3-6 reps,since ill be fatigued from Incline presses and db flys.

To get stringer on chest or to hit your chest harder,if you have no spotter then i advise get into pre exhaust routines.what this does is exahaust your chest so when u go to a pressing routine,your chest is fatigued and since your lats ,delts and tris asst in pressing motions they wont fatigue before your chest,which can result in you not getting as good a chest workout like you should have. I alternate between starting with presses and at times starting with flys.

a pre exhaust routine is starting your workout for an imparticular body part with an isolation movement.It will make pressing motions more taxing on that body part after you pre exhaust them.

im fortunate i have an amazing upper chest and i think its cause of DB flys and incline presses..i go very deep on my flys and pressses,kind of old school style. Alot of ppl dont do flys or exclude or just do them wrong.Flys are major,must have them in every chest routine.
 
Jay888999 said:
you will not make real gains by doing such a thng..u will at one point not get sore and not continue to grow nor get stronger..dude there isnt a single person u can ask to spot you? I dont like asking for spotters cause most ppl are ****ing retards. Dude,use DB's then,your not going to progress with what u are doing.Go use Dbs,more stabalizers involved,plus not u dont have to worry about a spotter as much..dont focus on bb only.I train alone and due to that i use mainly Dbs and smoth machines most.I never exclude BB though its used very oftn in my routines.

but id change what your doing..
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I had a different routine and an occasional spotter at my old gym. I just started at golds and have yet to find my niche. I have just started with a training and hopefully I will have some good gains. I have seen some good stuff. My dumbbell curl to Arnold press I maxed out with 50's only for 2 but I do add 5 or 10 here and there. I didn't have a decline bench at my last gym but since here I have hit higher weight then my flat bench. I have hit 225 and 235 on flat once or twice both with a spotter.

I'd like to see a couple of your routines, maybe I could pick up a thing or two.

Thanks your continued support will be greatly appreciated
 
Budman7811 said:
I had a different routine and an occasional spotter at my old gym. I just started at golds and have yet to find my niche. I have just started with a training and hopefully I will have some good gains. I have seen some good stuff. My dumbbell curl to Arnold press I maxed out with 50's only for 2 but I do add 5 or 10 here and there. I didn't have a decline bench at my last gym but since here I have hit higher weight then my flat bench. I have hit 225 and 235 on flat once or twice both with a spotter.

I'd like to see a couple of your routines, maybe I could pick up a thing or two.

Thanks your continued support will be greatly appreciated
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imo,as my bro always told me,if you cant do 3 on your own,drop the weight..thats what i go by.

if you hit 1 or 2 with a spotter the technically you didnt bench 225. where are you bringing the bar to? how deep ? when i bench the bar either touches my chest,then i press smoothly ( touches my chest NOT BOUNCING) or stays 1-3 " off my chest with a smooth press up.
 
I hit the chest no doubt. As far as a spotter had a jackass spot me first on no issue the second one the guy didn't help as I struggled then once I got it up (I wanted to stomp him) he says those are your best gains. I didn't bench for almost two weeks because my shoulder hurt so bad, pain and soreness are two different things.

I try to incorporate smith every once in awhile, definitely heavier weight. I was gettin some weird pains when I first started only using smith, since I switched I haven't had any major issues. I get 50/60 Db pretty good haven't in a while, sometimes I think one gets stuck and forgets, without others reminding them of what they coul be doing.
 
Budman7811 said:
I hit the chest no doubt. As far as a spotter had a jackass spot me first on no issue the second one the guy didn't help as I struggled then once I got it up (I wanted to stomp him) he says those are your best gains. I didn't bench for almost two weeks because my shoulder hurt so bad, pain and soreness are two different things.

I try to incorporate smith every once in awhile, definitely heavier weight. I was gettin some weird pains when I first started only using smith, since I switched I haven't had any major issues. I get 50/60 Db pretty good haven't in a while, sometimes I think one gets stuck and forgets, without others reminding them of what they coul be doing.
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dude its no shame,train hard and thats what counts...I came here and realized how much IDK about alot of suppplements and things like that. Im good in the weight dept but dont know it all and never will..you can never stop learning as long as you dont want to stop learning.

Any questions hit me up,id mbe more than glad to give u the best advice as possible man..

best of luck and great job on running this log..Purus is a solid company and Airborne and Aron are good dudes.
 
Jay888999 said:
dude its no shame,train hard and thats what counts...I came here and realized how much IDK about alot of suppplements and things like that. Im good in the weight dept but dont know it all and never will..you can never stop learning as long as you dont want to stop learning.

Any questions hit me up,id mbe more than glad to give u the best advice as possible man..

best of luck and great job on running this log..Purus is a solid company and Airborne and Aron are good dudes.
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Thanks & it's Aaron. ;)
 
Not to be contradicting but if I hit 205x3=615lbs if I do 175x10=1750. So I guess I should go for 205x3for 3sets get the same weight and work just as hard.
 
Budman7811 said:
Not to be contradicting but if I hit 205x3=615lbs if I do 175x10=1750. So I guess I should go for 205x3for 3sets get the same weight and work just as hard.
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Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.
 
Jay888999 said:
Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.
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I was trying to be stupid funny.
 
Shorter workout gotta pick oldest up from her slumber party. Still got 45 min in.

1.5 scoop condense, still feel it 1 hour after taking it. Good energy
 
Deadlifts
5x105
5x195
5x245

Back extension
20

High row machine
14@70
12@80

Natalus pull over
14@80
10@110

Giant set
Face pulls + rope tri pull down + rope tri extension
10@70+20@70+10@70
10@75+ 15@75 + 10@75
10@80+15@80+10@80

12 min treadmill .6 miles with incline 5%

Stretching before and after dead better help.

Stinks I had to head out early but I should make up for it tomorrow.
 
Jay888999 said:
Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.
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It's called tonnage/volume. Very common way people gauge performance in the gym from my understanding. @Budman, Great job keeping up on the log brother.
 
Randoja said:
It's called tonnage/volume. Very common way people gauge performance in the gym from my understanding. @Budman, Great job keeping up on the log brother.
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Unless u have some of routine set then thats one thing..He has no routine set in place at all,while he does make sense,it doesnt make sense in his situation. He is lifting how he lifts cause he has no spotter..For him begining, looking at things like that and doing the above chest workout isnt going to get him to far, sorry.Thats a fact..He needs n focus on learning the basic type of work outs descebding and ascending routines..how to increase his weight set by set,how to make himself stronger even though he trains alone. As well as how to Start sets heavy and drop lighter through sets.All i ever do is train alone and never had problems making gains. So yeah if he was novice with expierience and has reason thats one thing,but he doesnt.
 
Jay888999 said:
Unless u have some of routine set then thats one thing..He has no routine set in place at all,while he does make sense,it doesnt make sense in his situation. He is lifting how he lifts cause he has no spotter..For him begining, looking at things like that and doing the above chest workout isnt going to get him to far, sorry.Thats a fact..He needs n focus on learning the basic type of work outs descebding and ascending routines..how to increase his weight set by set,how to make himself stronger even though he trains alone. As well as how to Start sets heavy and drop lighter through sets.All i ever do is train alone and never had problems making gains. So yeah if he was novice with expierience and has reason thats one thing,but he doesnt.
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Really depends on his goals. While I agree that a proper routine is instrumental in success, I don't get sore after he lifts so I can't begin to assume the efficiency of his workouts. As long as he is honest with himself about whether or not he is getting the most out of his workouts he will progress. Some valuable help would be to advise him how you have been so successful without a spotter all this time like you did regarding DBs. I would go on to say that, Budman, if your'e gym has a power rack and a movable bench you can set yourself up a safety bench area with the bars in the power rack and go as heavy as you want. If you can't lift it, push the bar toward your legs, it should ride it's way onto the safety bars and you can slide out.
 
Thanks guys, yeah I don't know or understand the proper lifting techniques. I do push myself and try to make gains. I watch others I the gym and learn from them. I watch movement, breaks and try to see how they combine them. But who is right and who is wrong. I do list my entire routines after every workout, in the order I do them. I haven't had much critique from anyone. I totally approve of you coming inhere and questioning what and why I am doing it. I tell how I feel, what I do and when I do it.

I need all the help I can get, I se so many people asking for help and they don't get it. I am simply doing what I do and if I like what you have to say I will give it a shot. I will admit I have been questioning what I have been doing and that's why I am discussing with a personal trainer. I am hoping that he has some solid answers and that I can learn from it.
 
Budman7811 said:
Thanks guys, yeah I don't know or understand the proper lifting techniques. I do push myself and try to make gains. I watch others I the gym and learn from them. I watch movement, breaks and try to see how they combine them. But who is right and who is wrong. I do list my entire routines after every workout, in the order I do them. I haven't had much critique from anyone. I totally approve of you coming inhere and questioning what and why I am doing it. I tell how I feel, what I do and when I do it.

I need all the help I can get, I se so many people asking for help and they don't get it. I am simply doing what I do and if I like what you have to say I will give it a shot. I will admit I have been questioning what I have been doing and that's why I am discussing with a personal trainer. I am hoping that he has some solid answers and that I can learn from it.
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Personal trainer can't give you any info that the forum members on here won't provide for free. If you feel like your routine might be lacking, I'd recommend looking into Wendler's 5/3/1 I just finished my first mesocycle of it and it's a great routine. It's tried and true as well, I have seen so many people make solid continuous gains with it. If you are interested in 5/3/1 I have some literature on it PM me for more info.
 
Randoja said:
Personal trainer can't give you any info that the forum members on here won't provide for free. If you feel like your routine might be lacking, I'd recommend looking into Wendler's 5/3/1 I just finished my first mesocycle of it and it's a great routine. It's tried and true as well, I have seen so many people make solid continuous gains with it. If you are interested in 5/3/1 I have some literature on it PM me for more info.
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Will do. If I was a dentist I would be good at pulling teeth. :p
 
5/3/1 is confusing after reading the article I didn't find out what the 5sets/3sets/1set of 5? At what weight pm is coming.
 
Budman7811 said:
5/3/1 is confusing after reading the article I didn't find out what the 5sets/3sets/1set of 5? At what weight pm is coming.
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Try Invalid Link Removed helped me start to understand it better and has a workout calculator.
 
1.75 scoops - added little more because I had a huge breakfast (eggs, potatoes, turkey bacon, 1/2cheese toast) and to prevent excuses.

Vsquat
2x8@235
1x6@285
1x6@335

Flat bench
1x10@135
1x8@185
1x4@225
1x3@235

Decline bench
1x10@135
2x3@225

High cable crossover + side lat cable
1x10@50 1x8@50
1x10@56 1x8@55
1x14@60

Only had 45 min cause I was late and child care is over at 1200. At least there was some heavy weight pushed around.
 
Budman7811 said:
5/3/1 is confusing after reading the article I didn't find out what the 5sets/3sets/1set of 5? At what weight pm is coming.
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Let me know if that info helped, and if you have any questions just hit me up man.
 
Kickin ass bro! I can't follow those kind of workouts for some reason.... I know what works for me
 
Airborne42 said:
Kickin ass bro! I can't follow those kind of workouts for some reason.... I know what works for me
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I take all kinda of advice and try to make it work. If I gain something from it then I am doing good.
 
Budman7811 said:
I take all kinda of advice and try to make it work. If I gain something from it then I am doing good.
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I hear u bro its always worth a try! I guess I just know my body
 
Randoja said:
Really depends on his goals. While I agree that a proper routine is instrumental in success, I don't get sore after he lifts so I can't begin to assume the efficiency of his workouts. As long as he is honest with himself about whether or not he is getting the most out of his workouts he will progress. Some valuable help would be to advise him how you have been so successful without a spotter all this time like you did regarding DBs. I would go on to say that, Budman, if your'e gym has a power rack and a movable bench you can set yourself up a safety bench area with the bars in the power rack and go as heavy as you want. If you can't lift it, push the bar toward your legs, it should ride it's way onto the safety bars and you can slide out.
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Oh man i cant say much from my phone cause its a pain to type..but i love training chest,so i can def get into this conversation..With some great routines and advice on wwight training with chest or any body prt in general,though i dont know it all :).

I will get back from my comp tommorow.

Randoja,i def respect your posts and opinions,just wanted to clear that up :)
 
Please please please for the sake of bodybuilding, avoid personal trainers...i think 1 out of 10 know what there doing..More often than not they suck.
 
Jay888999 said:
Please please please for the sake of bodybuilding, avoid personal trainers...i think 1 out of 10 know what there doing..More often than not they suck.
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I agree!!!
 
Jay888999 said:
Please please please for the sake of bodybuilding, avoid personal trainers...i think 1 out of 10 know what there doing..More often than not they suck.
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Airborne42 said:
I agree!!!
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Well if the trainer wasn't in good shape I probably would be Leary however this guy has some attributes I have been looking forward to. I do agree somewhat because of the bodyfat assessment which took two minutes. Weight plus height then a devic I hold out in my hand, gives you an accurate body fat %? Whatever I will take these free sessions and take what I can from them.

Btw where we're you two weeks ago? By the time I out what you two have to say into a routine this log will he over and neither of you will see the progress which you started. Seems like you'll have to jump onto my next log to get some satisfaction.

Hahahaha thanks guys :)
 
dude anyone can be in good shape,

prfect example trainer at my gym,22 years old,did a ph tri methyl stack ( i believe monster plexx or something ) and looks great but is fkn brain dead when it comes to bbing, and is too busy watching what i do ( thats not an ego thing) cause he i has no fkn clue..Its scarey watching him.i would have no problems giving him advice if he asked,although i dont come off friendly,lol..maybe thats why..

have another one in my gym who was showing a woman how to deadlift.i looked over as it was rididculous,he smirks and says you wanna try,my reply was if you do it the right way then yes,lol..he continues to say well then why dont you show me,,so i do...when deadlifting assume the squat position,head up shoulders up,lower back arched,first portion of the lift is the legs well most the lift,then obviousley upper body for the pull. this personal trainer is thing,fit,but knows nothing..he then says where you get your info from..i say my younger bro who been training since 1996 and you? he says cracker jack box and i reply "ya probably ****ing do" lol...he now says hi to me all the time,lol

i can go on and on bro..

Stay away from PT's,jut my opinuon,do what ya like though.
 
1.5 scoops Condense crisp apple(445am)
Creatine, bcaa caps PRE (had a with a bagel and peanut butter right as I woke4:15am)

Mixed 1/2 scoop Condense with my intra just in case.

.4mile warm up on treadmill

Personal trainer killed my legs, front.

V-squat
10@145
10@235
10@285

45 vertical leg press
10@2plates
10@4plates
10@6plates

90 leg press
10@2plates
10@6plates
8@8plates

Leg extension
10@60
10@65
10@110
10@50

Superset core
Crunches+leg raise
4x. 15+10

Post supplements 7am
2bcaa caps, 1.5g vitc, omega3, b-complex, multi, and Vit-d+a. 27gprotien shake,

Food 7am
Banana, and greek yogurt+granola.

Food 930am
Oat meal

Lunch in an hour or so
Spicy chicken noodles
 
Bit sore this morning, at least the wife rubbed my legs. They were sore last night little deep heating run and better than I thought this morning. No gym, just pulled up to first job of day.
 
Slacking today.

1.5scoop CONDENSE CRISP APPLE

Lots o stretching due to leg soreness.

Worked mostly arms and a little back

Curl to Arnold press
3x10@30,35,40

Db rows
3x10@70

Lat pull down
1x10@100
1x10@110
1x10@120

Front Db raise
3x10@16

Side Db raise
3x10@15

Treadmill
1.25mile 16min incline @5%

Felt good to due a little cardio at end hopefully keep me loose for the day.
 
I feel like my legs are so full, just wish they hadn't started getting sore again. Funny when my wife was rubbing my she mentioned that my right leg was bigger then my left. Had surgery on left knee 14 yrs ago.
 
Boom!

How does ConDense compare to other pre work outs you have used before bud?
 
AaronJP1 said:
Boom!

How does ConDense compare to other pre work outs you have used before bud?
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I will get more detailed with my review, this weekend.

Best thing is the speed at which you feel it 10-15 minutes is great. Don't have to sit around and wait. Good clean energy. Gonna let my wife dabble and get her opinion this weekend.


I have tried about 18 different pre's this I would put in top 3!
 
I want to know why I can't find anyone whining about their legs being sore, they must not be using CONDENSE. I am able to push myself, overwork and grow. How about you?
 
Budman7811 said:
I want to know why I can't find anyone whining about their legs being sore, they must not be using CONDENSE. I am able to push myself, overwork and grow. How about you?
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I just started on a powerlifting team.... So a curveball and I have the worse DOMS ever.... Also been using ConDense of course lol
 
Airborne42 said:
I just started on a powerlifting team..
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Im jealous..lol.

Dont have the time and money to do it now and have always wanted to.Plus my lower back is shot,i dont deadlift anymore. Right knee forever giving me ****. So i actually wouldnt bother these days. But really wish i could.Your going to love it.

And the best powerlifting dvd out to date and ever made,by far is

" Power Unlimited:The Movie"

Its out on dvd and if u dont get it ,they have the movie in its entirity on you tube.You need n watch it..

While your at it,go on you tube and watch POWER LIFTING LEGEND Ed Coan behind the neck BB shoulder press 405._Intense **** man.
 
Had a good one today. Took a little while for me to post but I was happy


Curl to press
1x10@35
1x10@40
1x10@45

Incline bench Db
1x5@30
1x10@35
1x10@40
1x10@45

tri extension l&r+ tri extension two hand
1x10@20 +1x20@20
1x10@25+1x20@25
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Low row med bar grip
1x10@75,105,135,150

Felt good and strong. Saw the guy I trained with and yeah 130db incline press <---- impressive in me book.
 
I to give my thanks go the PURUS team, AARON AND AIRBORNE, for allowing me to give CONDENSE CRISP APPLE a solid run. CONDENSE turned out to be a very unique preworkout. The energy, focus, pumps and quick effects were nice and easy to complement. Being able to take a preworkout supplement and have it ready and effective within 15 min is very helpful when trying to schedule ones day.

Flavor-8.9 Crisp Apple is a flavor I have never had in a preworkout. Changing it up like this gives one a new outlook on what's to come. The initial taste is a little weird but the after taste is awesome.

Mixing-9.8 this product left the slightest remains which none would ever complain.

Effectiveness-9.5 like I said above use within 15 minutes before and even a little during is ok.

Pumps 9.0 great job here your able to really see the effects of a hard work linger for hours. A moral booster for sure

Focus and energy 9.2 I was able to continue my day with out being fatigued. The left over energy had no adverse effects on me, only helpe me throughout the morning. I was able to maintain until the whole foods were able to fuel the rest of my day.

Only down fall.....

Packaging 8- with the added servings and lack of a moisture packet the last week or so of servings started to clump up a little. Didn't really effect anything that I could tell but could decrease the effectiveness of the product. Not sure of how it effects the product I will leave that to the professionals to figure out.


Overall I was very pleased with this product and will look for it when I place an order, price in seems to be in spot for this and should be a huge seller for PURUS LABS.

THANKS AGAIN AND LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING OUT IN THE FUTURE.
 
:bigok:

Thx for the review.
 
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