The other guess was denied, so my guess must be right since noone has denied it; which would make the intro to this product hype since it has been around for many years.(Real #!@-*$&# (withheld until release) protein is extremely expensive & was never intended for “public” consumption.)
of course Vengence's skepticism is justified in my book, given the fact that historically every company thinks their protein is a big deal, even if its often a dissappointment to everyone else. that said, I think PF3 is a reare exception; given the dalton size of this product, it cant be immunocal, undenatured whey, that bio stuff extracted for glutationine, or pro nos. my guess would be that its a minute portion found in whey. whats AWESOME about this product is how it appears to be made; usually, a company that would extract a portion from, say, 25grams of whey protein would offer a product in that small amount (say 800mg) or an amount not much more than that and thus nobody would really dig the product. what MAN did was save humanity a few decades while our scientific community realizes that more is better by putting up, say, a 15x amount of that extract per serving.
creatine ethyl ester isn't even more bioavailable than creatine monyhydrate said:
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I doubt this product is anything new or revolutionary...
Although, I would always be willing to take a free product.
im a creatine non-responder, no matter what form. dont know what it is, maybe i make plenty of it or have comparitively high phosphorus, so i agree CEE sucks. that said, have you tried ornithine ethyl ester? its amazing at a fraction of the dose. 1g twice daily pumps me up all day.
anyway, the dalton size has got me really excited. for me, personally, slow release proteins are in another league from whey ect. i used hydrowhey and even though the tests claim i get more out of it due to less being excreted, i cant disregard the empirical benefit i get from taking a slow release protein or a timed-release product; it like anything that stays in the bloodstream is increasing the window of opportunity for the intended absorption. i dont know, maybe the fact that a substance is absorbed slower gives my body the chance it needs to develope the necessary enzymes ect to better utilize it.