pump preworkout without agmatine and nitrates

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hey,

any good preworkout supps for pump without agmatine and nitrates? only one i know of is mts vasky but wondered if there were any more complete pump prducts, just without agmatine and nitrates
 

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yeh maybe i should go with mts vasky stacked with bulk l citrulline
 
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any reason you dont want agmatine? or nitrates fo rthat matter?


as mentioned, bulk cit/cit-mal is teh way to go. SNS has it cheap cheap too. Other than that, maybe something like gms?
 
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any reason you dont want agmatine? or nitrates fo rthat matter?


as mentioned, bulk cit/cit-mal is teh way to go. SNS has it cheap cheap too. Other than that, maybe something like gms?
This exactly. Did you have any bad sides from them?

Cit Mal is amazing for pump and endurance IMO :)
 

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yeh i get some sides from nitrates and agmatine...
 
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any reason you dont want agmatine? or nitrates fo rthat matter?


as mentioned, bulk cit/cit-mal is teh way to go. SNS has it cheap cheap too. Other than that, maybe something like gms?
cold sores- seem to be the number one reason people avoid ag and cit- that is my guess
 
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Most pump products contain one or both of those. so opting for SNS Citrulline Malate and GMS would fit the bill nicely. Add that to a decent base pre-workout and you have the best of both worlds.
 
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nutra has mono pump so if you elect not to use either of the above and want to go another route, that would be an option
 
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SNS bulk citrulline would fit the bill nicely.
This would be a great option. That's probably the easiest and cheapest route to go.
 

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