Puffiness in PCT

cbr1000rr

cbr1000rr

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A little over a week into PCT using 25mg clomid, 20mg nolva, and CEL clomaplex.

Aside from mood being awful (expected), I’ve got puffiness around/on the nips. On cycle I used arimidex which always helped. Apparently arimidex shouldn’t be used in PCT
 
I suffer from chest puffiness that has continued into my weight loss and something that has made noticeable improvements is Blackstone labs letro xt. I only take one tab a day and it’s enough to reduce the puffiness significantly. At one tab a day it’s very cost effective for a bit of an ai boost
 
WickedWarlock said:
I suffer from chest puffiness that has continued into my weight loss and something that has made noticeable improvements is Blackstone labs letro xt. I only take one tab a day and it’s enough to reduce the puffiness significantly. At one tab a day it’s very cost effective for a bit of an ai boost
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I Believe That product a weak dht pro hormone and arimistane if I'm not mistaken. consider yourself lucky because for the large majority of ppl it's not going to help if theres any gyno going on or estrogen is elevated significantly, we also dont use anabolics in pct as they will stop the recovery of natural testosterone
 
Smont said:
I Believe That product a weak dht pro hormone and arimistane if I'm not mistaken. consider yourself lucky because for the large majority of ppl it's not going to help if theres any gyno going on or estrogen is elevated significantly, we also dont use anabolics in pct as they will stop the recovery of natural testosterone
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I think although not exactly sure the ingredients are offshoots of atd but I will have to look into it.
 
Smont said:
I Believe That product a weak dht pro hormone and arimistane if I'm not mistaken. consider yourself lucky because for the large majority of ppl it's not going to help if theres any gyno going on or estrogen is elevated significantly, we also dont use anabolics in pct as they will stop the recovery of natural testosterone
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Key Ingredients:​

3b-hydroxy-androsta-1,4,6-triene-17-one reported to help reduce estrogen biosynthesis and support natural production of dihydrotestosterone and testosterone which encourages fat loss and muscle building.

3b-hydroxy-androsta-4,6-diene-17-one metabolite of ATD that helps limit the conversion of testosterone into estrogen and promote androgenic effects to support greater gains in muscle and strength.


That’s what tiger fitness says for ingredient break down.
 
That's weird, both of those look like arimistane. The bottom is definitely arimistane. And the top looks like a slight alteration of arimistane. While some ppl get good ai results from arimistane, most dont. Arimistane dosent lower my estrogen levels at all personally. That's a big reason it's mostly only popular with with ppl who cant source gear or ai's
 
Topical formastane was the **** back in the day, I'm trying to figure out if that first 1 is formastane
 
Smont said:
That's weird, both of those look like arimistane. The bottom is definitely arimistane. And the top looks like a slight alteration of arimistane. While some ppl get good ai results from arimistane, most dont. Arimistane dosent lower my estrogen levels at all personally. That's a big reason it's mostly only popular with with ppl who cant source gear or ai's
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It’s very confusing because hi tech makes nolvadex xt now and the ingredients are the first two plus arimistane… so to me that says neither compounds in letro xt are arimistane
  • 3b-hydroxy-androsta-1,4,6-triene-17-one: This is a powerful aromatase inhibitor. This compound helps to reduce estrogen conversion and can also increase testosterone levels.
  • 3b-hydroxy-androsta-4,6-diene-17-one: Another type of aromatase inhibitor, This one also helps stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen.
  • Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione: Also known as Arimistane. This is a very popular aromatase inhibitor used in PCT products to help normalize testosterone and estrogen levels. The main goal of reducing estrogen and increasing testosterone levels.
 
WickedWarlock said:
It’s very confusing because hi tech makes nolvadex xt now and the ingredients are the first two plus arimistane… so to me that says neither compounds in letro xt are arimistane
  • 3b-hydroxy-androsta-1,4,6-triene-17-one: This is a powerful aromatase inhibitor. This compound helps to reduce estrogen conversion and can also increase testosterone levels.
  • 3b-hydroxy-androsta-4,6-diene-17-one: Another type of aromatase inhibitor, This one also helps stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen.
  • Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione: Also known as Arimistane. This is a very popular aromatase inhibitor used in PCT products to help normalize testosterone and estrogen levels. The main goal of reducing estrogen and increasing testosterone levels.
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Theres so many like compounds. The first 2 are ATD and those are now banned substances so maybe that's a old formula? The third is arimistane and arimistane was actually the replacements for atd. I'd still use a real ai over these as there just not as effective and cost more half the time. I don't want it to sound like I'm arguing the product cus we sell actual ai. Everyone gotta make there own choices. But paying more money for a less effective product dosent make sense to me either. $50 for a supplement vs. $30-40 for a real serm or ai.

I'm now hoping someone can chime in on the atd legal status or maybe just banned in sports? I'm not sure.
 
cbr1000rr said:
Have nolva tabs and additional liquid nolva that I bought maybe a year ago. What’s the typical shelf life for liquid nolva?
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Unfortunately I'm not sure, if its sealed and was stored in a cool place then I'd imagine its fine, but ultimately i do not know
 
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