Public is ignorant on steroids

It's cool if you feel less manly, just pop in The Notebook and cry it out. You'll be good soon enough.
 
Like a poster in this thread I also sat my gf down and showed her bigger stronger faster.

She doesn't exactly like the idea but she knows that I spent years researching these compounds and that I know what I'm doing.
She never cried or told me to stop she just wanted me to be careful,which I am.
 
Roniboney said:
Like a poster in this thread I also sat my gf down and showed her bigger stronger faster.

She doesn't exactly like the idea but she knows that I spent years researching these compounds and that I know what I'm doing.
She never cried or told me to stop she just wanted me to be careful,which I am.

Reasonable woman
 
If your with a woman who isn't reasonable then what the hell is the point of being with her.Plenty of better women out there.

I've met some people who seem to think it's better if they're completely insane for some reason lol.
 
2 things really bother me when it comes to peoples perspective on steroids.

1) The belief that you can just take them and look big and ripped. I mean sure they help, but once a person admits to using, he'll only be known for the drugs and not for whatever dedication he has in his diet or training routine.

2) That people will question your health but not think twice about the guy who chain smokes and drinks every day.
 
to this day,i still try to figure out why alcohol is legal and gear is not.

i question this country,USA govmnt and a lot of other things.

oh yeah and ppl are *******s. I bet if steroids got you **** faced,like alcohol does it be legal!
 
Because alcohol is not a preformance enhancing drug. Essentially it was the concept of cheating in sports/ olympics that caused gear to be banned. Also that kid who had Major depression and killed him self while on steroids (which in my personal opinion was not the juice but the depression). The CDC, DEA, Public health and other organizations actually argued that steroids should be legal during the scheduling of steroids.


to this day,i still try to figure out why alcohol is legal and gear is not.

i question this country,USA govmnt and a lot of other things.

oh yeah and ppl are *******s. I bet if steroids got you **** faced,like alcohol does it be legal!
 
Because alcohol is not a preformance enhancing drug. Essentially it was the concept of cheating in sports/ olympics that caused gear to be banned. Also that kid who had Major depression and killed him self while on steroids (which in my personal opinion was not the juice but the depression). The CDC, DEA, Public health and other organizations actually argued that steroids should be legal during the scheduling of steroids.


juice didnt not make him commit suicide,maybe it fckd with his hormones and made him think a bit diif..But when u r depressed u r depressed..

a buddy of mine commited suicide about 4 months ago,hung himself..was just depressed. using the excuse that it was anabolics is a way of blaming something other than yourself or just saying my son was a mental case.
 
Jay888999 said:
juice didnt not make him commit suicide,maybe it fckd with his hormones and made him think a bit diif..But when u r depressed u r depressed..

a buddy of mine commited suicide about 4 months ago,hung himself..was just depressed. using the excuse that it was anabolics is a way of blaming something other than yourself or just saying my son was a mental case.

Agreed. The parents needed a scapegoat. Couldn't accept that their son would kill himself
 
Just to turn this thread in a different direction over half the people on this forum are ignorant on steroids. There is more then 10 threads a week on 16-18 year olds wanting to do gear. There are posts on people wanting to run superdrol at high dosages for 5-6 weeks and run an otc pct.

So yes the public is ignorant but some of the people here are more retarded then ignorant.
 
Just to turn this thread in a different direction over half the people on this forum are ignorant on steroids. There is more then 10 threads a week on 16-18 year olds wanting to do gear. There are posts on people wanting to run superdrol at high dosages for 5-6 weeks and run an otc pct.

So yes the public is ignorant but some of the people here are more retarded then ignorant.

I'm running a 10mg sd for 6 weeks and I consider that extreme as hell.Imagine 20-30mg for 6 weeks.Goodbye sweet liver and kidneys
 
Agreed. The parents needed a scapegoat. Couldn't accept that their son would kill himself
that something common with most ppl man. people dont know how to accept lifes realitys.in turn they place blame everywhere else except where the problem is.

One scenario,kid is depressed and commited suicide.His father semed like one of those that pushed baseball on his son.Maybe his son did steroids cause his father was never happy with how his son did. maybe he wasnt as good as he should have been while using anabolics.he had underlying issues to commit suicide. maybe he felt he would never make his father happy.

deep down down the father may have known the way he treated his son may have contributed to it.so why not blame something society hates.

thats thinkning a bit deep,lol....but ya never know.people are full of excuses.
 
I'm running a 10mg sd for 6 weeks and I consider that extreme as hell.Imagine 20-30mg for 6 weeks.Goodbye sweet liver and kidneys

See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
 
See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
agreed bro..I passed on commenting.i was close to saying something.
 
Because alcohol is not a preformance enhancing drug. Essentially it was the concept of cheating in sports/ olympics that caused gear to be banned. Also that kid who had Major depression and killed him self while on steroids (which in my personal opinion was not the juice but the depression). The CDC, DEA, Public health and other organizations actually argued that steroids should be legal during the scheduling of steroids.

My old roommate went to HS with Taylor Hooten and said he was a spoiled ******* with a myriad of issues. Plano West is a VERY rich area and many of them are into recreational drugs and, anecdotally, Hooten was one of the many to partake.
 
I'm running a 10mg sd for 6 weeks and I consider that extreme as hell.Imagine 20-30mg for 6 weeks.Goodbye sweet liver and kidneys

I'm doing 10/20/20/10/10/10/10/10 (tried 30 but had insomnia)
Been saying I'm on my last 6th week..
Come at me haters ;)
 
I do not think that is too crazy assuming you have proper supports, I would picture diminishing returns after 6 weeks though.

I'm doing 10/20/20/10/10/10/10/10 (tried 30 but had insomnia)
Been saying I'm on my last 6th week..
Come at me haters ;)
 
I do not think that is too crazy assuming you have proper supports, I would picture diminishing returns after 6 weeks though.

I'm not trying to gain muscle, cutting, lost alot of weight too

I'm considering running supports year round, already doing that with bulk milk thistle


Only side effects I'm getting are: Shin Pumps and Blood Pressure which is my main concern.
 
mysteri said:
Hahaha!!!! I did the same thing.
I got back with a girl I dated pretty much all through highschool, we'd been back together for about a month,
And I was prepping for the Nabba Worlds.

My gf said..."babe a few of my friends said you take steroids?"
I replied "who?"
She then told me a few girls names, and I said "what would they know? What I do is none of there business anyway!".
There was a silence......
Then she says "soooooo, have you??"
"have I what?" I say
"have you ever taken steroids????"

"Hahahahaha!!!! I'm on them right now."
She then starts to freak out.......
Starts saying **** like, don't they make you crazy? Don't they make you angry?

I reply "no, have I been angry or crazy the whole time we've been together?"
She says no!
So I tell her, well that's me, I'm not gonna change iv been doing them for a few years now!

So then she says, " can I watch you take them?"
I said sure tomorrow I have to do it, so u can watch.
She then proceeds to tell me, " I don't know how I feel about this!"

I tell her "lance Armstrong needs a bike to do what he loves, and achieve his goals! Well this is my bike"
I then pull out BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER!
N we watch that.
Then she says "ok cool, well can I start injecting you?" geeeezzzzz!!!!

From that day she now does most of my injections in hard to reach places like delts, Lats n glutes :)
N she now wants to know of there's any girly ones for her LOL

That's amazing lol sounds like a great girl
 
Just to turn this thread in a different direction over half the people on this forum are ignorant on steroids. There is more then 10 threads a week on 16-18 year olds wanting to do gear. There are posts on people wanting to run superdrol at high dosages for 5-6 weeks and run an otc pct.

So yes the public is ignorant but some of the people here are more retarded then ignorant.

Definitely agree with this. Don't have a problem helping people who are asking but way too many threads go like this:

OP: Starting a 12 week test e/tren cycle with an SD kicker and anavar weeks 8-12 first cycle my buddy is injecting me my first shot right now!

Other: You got a PCT planned out?

OP: What's a PCT? Never heard of it.
 
I don't have a problem with teens that know there ****, but I haven't came across any yet. I'm sure I have though they just posin' to be older when their not
 
My girl re acted a bit weird when i told her,as she kept looking at my supps asking " what is all this **** and why is it all over the kitchen table" lol

she said once in a while is fine,she dont want me all jacked up,but here and there is ok,as long as i do everything safe and right.

thats how i like it anyway,im not into this whole anabolic thing,but here n there to cut some fat,help with a plataueeu etc...its a nice treat =)
 
agreed bro..I passed on commenting.i was close to saying something.

We're all men here,speak your mind man I can take being called an idiot from behind a computer screen if that's what people want to say.

See now THIS is ignorant, sorry to say.

I ran 20mg for 6 weeks and never looked back.

I love people who think 20mg for 4 weeks is fine, but suddenly at 6 weeks you've destroyed yourself.

Ask yourself, if the margin was really THAT tight, would you be using that kind of drug in the first place? Probably not.
If you were sorry to say it then you wouldn't have said it. But I'm a big boy and I'll take the bad with the good.No offense taken.I have never seen that discussed or recommended on these forums at all so yes you can call that ignorance.

I shudder to think what people who are not ready for these compounds would do if a 6 week cycle at 20 or 30mg was practiced on this site by the more advanced and became standard procedure.In that sense I would rather people stay ignorant and if that includes myself then so be it.
 
i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks
We're all men here,speak your mind man I can take being called an idiot from behind a computer screen if that's what people want to say.

If you were sorry to say it then you wouldn't have said it. But I'm a big boy and I'll take the bad with the good.No offense taken.I have never seen that discussed or recommended on these forums at all so yes you can call that ignorance.

I shudder to think what people who are not ready for these compounds would do if a 6 week cycle at 20 or 30mg was practiced on this site by the more advanced and became standard procedure.In that sense I would rather people stay ignorant and if that includes myself then so be it.
 
Husker89 said:
i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks

You are a unique case. I have seen many people end up in the hospital from taking orals too long /too high dosage
 
I've never ran any super long oral only cycle, but I have pushed the limit due to minimal sides. And my liver values always checked out good. So yeah I'd say the toxicity of orals are overexaggerated.
 
Husker89 said:
i have run orals for 20weeks plus with bloods and no to very very little liver damage(elevated levels) not saying it is awesome by any means but i think the damage is vastly overblown in the same wya the media vastly over blows steroids in general. Antibioitics over 6 months RUINED MY LIVER however, so the best bet is to mix injectables and orals and only be on orals for 4-6 weeks

You ran methyl products for over 20 weeka straight?? If not then 20 weeks is fine,but imo overkill.I dont take any oral supps for more than 2-3 months tops with atleast a 4-8 week break and a liver cleanse,wheteher its a methyl or not. Still stressing your liver.This is just my opinion.

I live by the quote "Better be safe than sorry"

If i do run some sort of anabolic i will follow what the masses say,cause its better to be safw.

And i dont have an ego or complex where i need to stay on **** where i would need to get super strong and super jacked in 2-3 months.

I been training all natural appx 7 yrs and with only 1-6week cycle of HD..I have another cycle similar set for April 2013.Which is a yr from when i ended my recent hd cycle.
 
IF is always something I'm considering as a "support" for the liver, anyone have any thoughts on this ? worthwhile ?
 
IF is always something I'm considering as a "support" for the liver, anyone have any thoughts on this ? worthwhile ?

as in intermittent fasting?

If so then maybe.I can see where you coming from with the whole detox(but that is exaggerated).It would make a minimal to no difference I believe but the only way to prove it is to get bloods when eating more meals and then run a cycle using IF and get bloods.
 
ya i do mostly injectables now with orals for 4 weeks to start and 4 weeks to finish
You ran methyl products for over 20 weeka straight?? If not then 20 weeks is fine,but imo overkill.I dont take any oral supps for more than 2-3 months tops with atleast a 4-8 week break and a liver cleanse,wheteher its a methyl or not. Still stressing your liver.This is just my opinion.

I live by the quote "Better be safe than sorry"

If i do run some sort of anabolic i will follow what the masses say,cause its better to be safw.

And i dont have an ego or complex where i need to stay on **** where i would need to get super strong and super jacked in 2-3 months.

I been training all natural appx 7 yrs and with only 1-6week cycle of HD..I have another cycle similar set for April 2013.Which is a yr from when i ended my recent hd cycle.
 
you guys know why steroids are illegal? it's because law enforcement and "higher ups" don't want civilians to be bigger and stronger than them and kick their butts :) hehe. they want us to be weak and die off.. it's all part of their big plan, haha. I'm crazy, I know.. had to say it though.
 
Danimozz said:
Not prepaid credit cards. And western union seems way more sketchy

How so? You don't need to use a real name or show ID. The only way you could be caught is if there's cameras recording the whole transaction, which seems time intensive just to catch a purchaser
 
Agreed its insane! People I know post stuff about smoking weed and doing meth and popping pain killers but if you mention steroids to any of them they look at you like a scumbag horrible person! And god damn I hate when people say oh he's on steroids so his penis is smaller now...that **** bugs me! People need to educate themselves

Lmao. Ikr. It's like no bitch... my balls are smaller now not my dick.!!!!
 
I had the same perception the public did, that steroids are evil, and everyone who uses them looks retarded (because, face it, science backs what I am bout to say: when you are too big, it is not considered attractive generally. No reason to fight me, you'd have to fight science. I get a lot of steroid users goals are not to be considered attractive, but to be huge. Just saying though).

But then I said f it, and was able to legally obtain a prescription for testosterone cypionate. Knew long, long in advance the protocols, such as taking nolva and clomid for a PCT, as well as how long to do a cycle, and at what dose. Decided to do it. Beforehand, my fiance told me she would break up with me if I ever did steroids. I told her "don't worry, it's testosterone, not steroids" (lol). Long story short, she doesn't care 5 weeks in, and actually says she doesn't care to even talk about it, because it isn't very interesting. She does however like giving injections (she is going in the medical field), so I'd say she's made quite a 180 degree turn.

Just like me.


I still side with science though, that too big is as bad as too small. IMO, at 5'11, 185 lbs with single digit body fat is the ideal, perfect size and weight. Many will disagree, but that doesn't matter much.
 
Thomasxavier said:
I had the same perception the public did, that steroids are evil, and everyone who uses them looks retarded (because, face it, science backs what I am bout to say: when you are too big, it is not considered attractive generally. No reason to fight me, you'd have to fight science. I get a lot of steroid users goals are not to be considered attractive, but to be huge. Just saying though).

But then I said f it, and was able to legally obtain a prescription for testosterone cypionate. Knew long, long in advance the protocols, such as taking nolva and clomid for a PCT, as well as how long to do a cycle, and at what dose. Decided to do it. Beforehand, my fiance told me she would break up with me if I ever did steroids. I told her "don't worry, it's testosterone, not steroids" (lol). Long story short, she doesn't care 5 weeks in, and actually says she doesn't care to even talk about it, because it isn't very interesting. She does however like giving injections (she is going in the medical field), so I'd say she's made quite a 180 degree turn.

Just like me.

I still side with science though, that too big is as bad as too small. IMO, at 5'11, 185 lbs with single digit body fat is the ideal, perfect size and weight. Many will disagree, but that doesn't matter much.

Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.
 
Well dude that is YOUR opinion but If science really does back you I'd like to see a peer reviewed study that too big is unattractive. Do you think Jay Cutlers wife thinks he's unattractive?? Everyone is different with different goals and different attractions so I do t see how science could back what you say.

An empirical peer reviewed study for me :)
 
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