PT 141 anyone?

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So I am basically looking into anything that could help my non existent libido that i could use at specific times.

Pde 5s do absolutely nothing for me except drop my blood pressure.

Any time i go on even a light cycle of testosterone i completely lose whatever little libido i got going.

Best libido i get is off cycle with a little bit of aromasin + inhibit p, but even then wood is floppy.

Also morning wood is soft (both on and off cycle, just that off cycle i can somewhat get hard easier).




So...this peptide is the only thing i didnt try...pde 5s, caber, proviron, test, tren, mast...nothing. Libido gone man. Completely.

I am willing to try this before going the extreme route; shockwave therapy, prp shots etc.

Basically want to see whether its a libido or a tissue problem.

I am a little worried about some of the reports of long term depression developing after its use. Did it happen to anyone?



Has anyone used it with good results? It seems to be a hit or miss.
 
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Had to Google PT 141, interesting product. Have you talked to a doctor about your problem? What about Tadalafil? I know it sounds far fetched and is weaker as for substances go than the things you've tried, but if you have tried everything then wouldn't hurt to try Sustain Alpha? It's so far been the strogest libido product for me, but I haven't used those compounds you mentioned, other than Proviron.
 

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Had to Google PT 141, interesting product. Have you talked to a doctor about your problem? What about Tadalafil? I know it sounds far fetched and is weaker as for substances go than the things you've tried, but if you have tried everything then wouldn't hurt to try Sustain Alpha? It's so far been the strogest libido product for me, but I haven't used those compounds you mentioned, other than Proviron.
Hm..sustain alpha gets thrown around a lot.

I dont think it would do anything for someone on exogenous test. Its 7,8 benzoflavone afaik.

@thebigt i know you are a huge fan of sustain alpha. Have you ever used it while on trt and got benefits from it?


I tried tadalafil (cialis) it partially works when i am able to get an ereftion then its of better quality. But doesnt do anything if i am completely impotent.

I want to know whh my morning wood is soft. If it was entirely psychogenic ED then morning wood, which is involuntary, should be hard. Since its not, the nature of the ED in my case is physiological, not psychological.




Basically i want to find out the root cause of my soft erections. I need to know whether its the hypoactive sexual desire or is there a problem with the penile structure itself.

Since pt141 is the strongest thing out there, it may settle this one for me. If i get really high libido but still soft erections then obviously problem is in the tissue itself.
 
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Yeah I agree that finding out the root cause is the best approach. I was actually thinking of Sildenafil, but typed Tada. I've heard Sildenafil is a bit more aggressive. I was thinking trying the SA for when you are not pinning test or anything else. You aren't on trt/cruising right? I've thought the Trans Resveratrol to be more responsible for the libido increase in SA than the Benzoflavone, but I don't know.

The PT 141 seems like pretty good stuff, but I only read some commercial promises.
 

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Yeah I agree that finding out the root cause is the best approach. I was actually thinking of Sildenafil, but typed Tada. I've heard Sildenafil is a bit more aggressive. I was thinking trying the SA for when you are not pinning test or anything else. You aren't on trt/cruising right? I've thought the Trans Resveratrol to be more responsible for the libido increase in SA than the Benzoflavone, but I don't know.

The PT 141 seems like pretty good stuff, but I only read some commercial promises.
I am not sure whether viagra would work if you have 0 libido, however it may be worth the try.

Yes i am currently on a little bit of test (200mg will bump up a bit down the road) and hcg, will add an anabolic (thinking of anavar, or a tiny dose of tren ace if i can keep shedding to a minimum) down the road, i am preparing for a photoshoot of a kind with buddies, need to look good in 2 months.
Already seeing gains at thia puny dose as i have naturally low test.

I had libido before i started test but still soft erections. As i added test in libido was high for a few days and then dropped.


I think pt 141 would be more appropriate in my case, i should be able to get to the root cause.
I personally think its the brain thing, and not vascular, but who knows.
 
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Weird that the libido went up for a moment after adding test and then dropped lower than before. But I guess this whole situation is weird so.. I hope the PT 141 treats you well and you get to the bottom of this issue. Let us know how the pt 141 works if you try it.
 
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Hm..sustain alpha gets thrown around a lot.

I dont think it would do anything for someone on exogenous test. Its 7,8 benzoflavone afaik.

@thebigt i know you are a huge fan of sustain alpha. Have you ever used it while on trt and got benefits from it?


I tried tadalafil (cialis) it partially works when i am able to get an ereftion then its of better quality. But doesnt do anything if i am completely impotent.

I want to know whh my morning wood is soft. If it was entirely psychogenic ED then morning wood, which is involuntary, should be hard. Since its not, the nature of the ED in my case is physiological, not psychological.




Basically i want to find out the root cause of my soft erections. I need to know whether its the hypoactive sexual desire or is there a problem with the penile structure itself.

Since pt141 is the strongest thing out there, it may settle this one for me. If i get really high libido but still soft erections then obviously problem is in the tissue itself.
man, i absolutely love sustain alpha...i've been on trt since 2008 well before i started using SA, so yes, to answer your question i get great results from SA while being on trt!!!
 
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I'd be interested to hear more about what your "light cycles" consist of; IE, are you perhaps nuking your estrogen, not enough free T, etc. Your best bet for a high libido and big load cycle is 250-500 test, some masteron, proviron and HCG. Trestolone will always send your libido soaring for a day or two after a shot but of course the aromatization is considerable.
 
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Ah cro, we’ve conversed a few times on your libido.

my view remains that I think it’s a mental issue over physical (although the gear can without doubt be playing a role, but you suffer with it regardless of what you are running).

I honestly think anxiety is playing a part here, the mind and sub conscious is unbelievably powerful, that could easily be affecting your morning wood.

I would dial back your drug useage to basic trt stuff and see a therapist long before trying more extreme measures. Trust me bro, I recently experienced just what the mind can do when I went from hard as nails to soft as **** in the middle of sex, because I got a chance to do something I’d been wanting to do for a really long time with a girl. In my head I’d built up how much I wanted to do it and then when I got the chance the little fella died on me, switched back to normal sex and he was fine again.......and I’m someone who can beat his meat time after time on 600mg deca ffs.

obviously you can’t rule out anything at this stage but just from what you’ve posted and my personal experiences I’d 💯 be exploring the mind rather than the body as a starting point.
 

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@Whisky I believe its a physiological issue as even with cialis morning wood is floppy and soft. If it was that simple, a little bit of whisky (hehe) and problem would be gone. I remember when i was younger if i had drinks in me, i was a horrible man, hitting on girls, grinding on them but i wouldnt be able to even get semi erect srs.
Like i said, mind wanted to fuk, d1ck didnt. Same as now. And friggin pde5's dont help.

There is sth with these younger generations (i am 23). So many asexuals, i know a few from my school. So many guys staying virgins until their 20s (like i did), simply lacking motivation to get with a girl. Maybe i would still be a virgin if i had not done that 1st test cycle at 21-22, not because of libido boost, but because of the way i changed psychologically.

And its not porn. I never had a habit of watching it. Consider how weird this is, as a teenager i never jacked off. Never, ever felt the urge. If anything, my libido is better in my 20s than it was in teens (at times).

Before i did gear i looked like a schoolboy, with childish face and baby fat. Now especially after the tren run i look 10 years older, dont know if its good or a bad thing.

So there is sth with our generation definitely.



My "light cycle" is for now 200mg of test with hcg, no ai. Later down the road i am bumping up the test a bit and either adding in anavar or low dose tren ace. I grow extremely well off of 200-250mg of test so no point in going higher in the beginning.

Also important to note that i feel way better on gear than of, i get all the benefits, strength, size, hardness, motivation, confidence, well-being, everything except libido.

And no i am not using any AI. I do sometimes get a boost in libido from aromasin but overall i feel like sh1t on it. Dry and painful joints.



Like i said, libido is better when off than on gear, however erections are still soft, the same as on gear.

As pt141 is supposed to cause an erection throuh mental stimulation, i think it will help me get to the root cause issue, so that i finally know id its the brain thing or vascular.

Anyway, the dice has been cast. I have ordered pt141 and will report back to you guys when it arrives and i 1st try it.
 
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@Whisky I believe its a physiological issue as even with cialis morning wood is floppy and soft. If it was that simple, a little bit of whisky (hehe) and problem would be gone. I remember when i was younger if i had drinks in me, i was a horrible man, hitting on girls, grinding on them but i wouldnt be able to even get semi erect srs.
Like i said, mind wanted to fuk, d1ck didnt. Same as now. And friggin pde5's dont help.

There is sth with these younger generations (i am 23). So many asexuals, i know a few from my school. So many guys staying virgins until their 20s (like i did), simply lacking motivation to get with a girl. Maybe i would still be a virgin if i had not done that 1st test cycle at 21-22, not because of libido boost, but because of the way i changed psychologically.

And its not porn. I never had a habit of watching it. Consider how weird this is, as a teenager i never jacked off. Never, ever felt the urge. If anything, my libido is better in my 20s than it was in teens (at times).

Before i did gear i looked like a schoolboy, with childish face and baby fat. Now especially after the tren run i look 10 years older, dont know if its good or a bad thing.

So there is sth with our generation definitely.



My "light cycle" is for now 200mg of test with hcg, no ai. Later down the road i am bumping up the test a bit and either adding in anavar or low dose tren ace. I grow extremely well off of 200-250mg of test so no point in going higher in the beginning.

Also important to note that i feel way better on gear than of, i get all the benefits, strength, size, hardness, motivation, confidence, well-being, everything except libido.

And no i am not using any AI. I do sometimes get a boost in libido from aromasin but overall i feel like sh1t on it. Dry and painful joints.



Like i said, libido is better when off than on gear, however erections are still soft, the same as on gear.

As pt141 is supposed to cause an erection throuh mental stimulation, i think it will help me get to the root cause issue, so that i finally know id its the brain thing or vascular.

Anyway, the dice has been cast. I have ordered pt141 and will report back to you guys when it arrives and i 1st try it.
I genuinely hope it works for you bro x
 

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Still didint receive pt, but wanted to give an update. I started hcg a week ago, on monday. 500 iu 2 X a week. Also on 180-200mg of test a week.

Approximately in the middle of the week my libido skyrocketed, from 0 to significant. Like its pretty high. Hcg really seems to be the key. Test seems to make no difference as far as libido goes. I could be taking none, or 500mg a week, it would be exactly the same.

I am taking mk677 currently, 15mg a day (because i currently cant work out, so muscle preservation ftw) and yeah while it does decrease my libido, it doesnt kill it completely with hcg on board.

Hardness is still not there (but i am not with a woman so there is a caveat to that, maybe it would be better ina real situation), i hope it improves after implementing a supplement stack specifically for it, l citrulline, ginseng, green tea, garlic and on top of that 5mg cialis eod. Also inhibit p.





Now of course i have come down with a virus on thursday. Every time sth good happens, sth bad also must occur, to keep the Universe in balance i guess.
 
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