Unanswered Proviron test base on cycle

[Hcicis777]

Hi want to try Proviron thru the oral cycle from dbol .50mg ed and s23 25mg ed 40 days then pct nolva 20mg and osta 25mg 30 days put Proviron thru cycle 25mg ed or stick in pct 50mg ed?

 

[Mathb33]

Proviron is not a test base. It has benefits when added in a cycle but it’s certainly not a test base.

 

[Mathb33]

No test and dbol + s23 you should be more worried about your estrogen and your titties than proviron

 

[Renew1]

No test and dbol + s23 you should be more worried about your estrogen and your titties than proviron

You're right ... Proviron is not a "Test base", but it can help with Estrogen.

 

[Hcicis777]

Proviron have anti estrogen properties I’m not sure or 25mg ed be enough to feel something or I should increase till 50mg ed?

 

[Renew1]

Proviron have anti estrogen properties I’m not sure or 25mg ed be enough to feel something or I should increase till 50mg ed?

If it were me, I'd run 50. But I'd also have an AI ready.

 

[Renew1]

I would go 25mg in PCT.

 

[Hcicis777]

I definitely start from 25mg ed

 

[Renew1]

I definitely start from 25mg ed

That's cool. You'll probably find 50mg to be a good dosage during cycle, and 25mg during PCT.
Let us know how it goes!

 

[Mathb33]

You're right ... Proviron is not a "Test base", but it can help with Estrogen.

Of course it can help lower your AI dose needed. I just wanted to point him out that he’s got bigger concern going into this weird cycle and that it’s not a test base.

 

[Hcicis777]

Do you mean it’s bad idea to stack dbol with s23?

 

[Hcicis777]

Do you mean it’s bad idea to stack dbol with s23?

 

[Renew1]

No test and dbol + s23 you should be more worried about your estrogen and your titties than proviron

Hmmm... Ok. Maybe I misread this??

 

[Mathb33]

I mean I really don’t understand why you would run dbol without actual test along with it. Makes no sense to me altho some people might disagree. And you’re adding osta on PCT which also makes no sense to me unless you would be B/C

 

[Hcicis777]

Do you mean it’s bad idea to stack dbol with s23?

 

[Hcicis777]

Osta should not impact your t recovery if cycle is not longer than 4 weeks and dose not more than 25mg

 

[jrock645]

Do you mean it’s bad idea to stack dbol with s23?

Hes saying the approach to your cycle makes no sense and i agree.

 

[Hcicis777]

Sorry I’m not pretending to only one that’s what I want to find out

 

[Hcicis777]

Sorry again I’m stoned ) I do just now experiment to find out about that info about test recovery and ostarine

 

[Renew1]

Sorry I’m not pretending to only one that’s what I want to find out

Ask them to suggest some changes. They don't mind helping you out. That's part of why we're here.

 

[Hcicis777]

If somebody have some suggestions welcome and thanks everyone for reply )

 

[Mathb33]

What’s your experience? What have you ran before? Do you know what’s gonna mostly happen on a dbol only cycle and why it makes no sense? If you wanna run dbol you have to be on a test cycle. And imo dbol can be a disaster if you don’t know how to run it and have some experience. If you don’t want to inject you shouldn’t even think about dbol... just let us know what have you ran before so we know where you are at!

 

[Lowkii]

I agree with everybody else with pinning test.. Yes, you can make gains with Dbol, but at least half will be water gains which you'll lose soon as you stop Dbol. Nobody want's to look like a bloated puffer fish. I'd suggest something like: Msten @20mg with 4AD @300mg. The Msten will be dry lean gains and the 4AD will keep you functioning down below and stop lethargic some what.. That will be a nice cycle if you don't want to pin

 

[Hcicis777]

I’m 33 years old first dbol cycle I was very young it was methandienone from russian pharmacy i was in russia its price was 150rubs for 100t 5mg that’s ruffle 3 dollars))) and that was best dbol ever I was try everything was have different problems with injections and much injuries I was think that’s mild cycle same as dbol and winny

 

[Lowkii]

I’m 33 years old first dbol cycle I was very young it was methandienone from russian pharmacy i was in russia its price was 150rubs for 100t 5mg that’s ruffle 3 dollars))) and that was best dbol ever I was try everything was have different problems with injections and much injuries I was think that’s mild cycle same as dbol and winny

Try what I've said above. The Msten and 4AD will be a much better cycle then Dbol solo. You'll keep more and have better gains.

 

[Hcicis777]

What about s23 i was never try it before but it supposed to be dry compound?

 

[Mathb33]

Exactly what was said above.. if you’re set on running orals without injecting i would go with things like msten or dmz, have on cycle support and find a decent test base if needed. Dbol cycle you’ll be depressed as **** when 2 days into PCT you’re -15 lbs. It’s basically useless cycle you’re just gonna put stress on your system for nothing at all. I would still pin test though. 400 mg + a good kicker would be a very good first cycle.

 

[Mathb33]

What about s23 i was never try it before but it supposed to be dry compound?

It’s certainly potent but not very studied yet. Also very toxic so you’d definitely need on cycle support. Would be a better idea than dbol though

 

[Hcicis777]

Ok thanks for recommendations I try to sort out some test and find nothing than something like 4ad or trest with Proviron?

 

[Lowkii]

s23

That's a SARM, right? I've never tried any SARM's. But you'll still need a test base for that as it's suppressive. So look into either something like Stano or 4AD. But as said above, it's probably a better idea then Dbol solo.

 

[jrock645]

My personal opinion is the “test base” stuff doesnt work. If you get the shutdown lethargic feeling then run actual test.

 

[Renew1]

My personal opinion is the “test base” stuff doesnt work. If you get the shutdown lethargic feeling then run actual test.

It has helped me before, brother. But yeah ... Actual Test is hard to beat.

 

[Lowkii]

Ok thanks for recommendations I try to sort out some test and find nothing than something like 4ad or trest with Proviron?

Trest can be a little expensive. But if money's not an issue then yes, you could use that for a test base also.

 

[Hcicis777]

Nothing can beat actual test.

 

[Mathb33]

My personal opinion is the “test base” stuff doesnt work. If you get the shutdown lethargic feeling then run actual test.

It’s also my opinion some people just feel better to put that into their cycle so I just go with it. The only thing that I would really concider a test base is trest basically

 

[Renew1]

I’m 33 years old first dbol cycle I was very young it was methandienone from russian pharmacy i was in russia its price was 150rubs for 100t 5mg that’s ruffle 3 dollars))) and that was best dbol ever I was try everything was have different problems with injections and much injuries I was think that’s mild cycle same as dbol and winny

Different problems with injections??

 

[Mathb33]

My personal opinion is the “test base” stuff doesnt work. If you get the shutdown lethargic feeling then run actual test.

It’s also my opinion some people just feel better to put that into their cycle so I just go with it. The only thing that I would really coïncider a test base is trest basically

 

[Renew1]

Sorry again I’m stoned ) I do just now experiment to find out about that info about test recovery and ostarine

LOL.
I just noticed this comment.

 

[Hcicis777]

Trest is very expensive especially if it’s dermatrest and oral trest never tried ace I think it is alot stronger than oral or transdermal