Proviron + Clomid

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I plan on using clomid 50mg ED and proviron starting at 50mg ED and continuing to 100mg ED after the first week.
my goal is to dry up a little
i also read at many forums that clomid 50mg or 25mg every day raises testosterone. Not anything superior to steroids but its like a good test booster.
should i add any AI?
whats your opinion in this plan?

i am 5,7 ft and 150lbs. my bf is 13%
i am also 30years old

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I did a clomid only cycle with nettle extract [SHBG modulator and also natty AI] at 12.5mg e3d and got my TT to 1170 and my FT to 388 on week 3.
I think your clomid is overdosed but I'm in for other's info. I have wanted to do a similar thing with proviron and clomid as a bridge.
 

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drying up a bit and gain any "benefit" of having more testosterone than my normal levels (increased libido, mood, sex drive)
 
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drying up a bit and gain any "benefit" of having more testosterone than my normal levels (increased libido, mood, sex drive)
I think you'll get all the benafit that clomid has to offer in your situation at 12.5 mg ed. I am experimenting with a clomid and low dose Deca EQ as a bridge but this is only time I've mixed clomid with AAS. What I wanted to achieve seems to work but my depression/lethargy is really bad. I'm taking clomid 25mg e2d , Deca 125mg/week , EQ125mg/week.
 

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i have trouble at cutting the pill properly. it really helps taking 50mg. cant i reduce it to 50mg every other day or evety third day and have the same effect?
 
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i have trouble at cutting the pill properly. it really helps taking 50mg. cant i reduce it to 50mg every other day or evety third day and have the same effect?
Get a pill cutter. clomid has a really long half life but can't check my notes to be exact I think its like 28 hours or so so I would use the pill cutter to make 25's and dose e2d
 

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yeah i ll go take one. I really like having high test with clomid but i am very cautious or E2 rise and estrogen at those levels. taking AI is not a viable option for me. so i ll play with clomid dosages. you think 25mg every day is a little too much?
 
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yeah i ll go take one. I really like having high test with clomid but i am very cautious or E2 rise and estrogen at those levels. taking AI is not a viable option for me. so i ll play with clomid dosages. you think 25mg every day is a little too much?
I think so...Thats my PCT dose. I got my T levels way up doing 12.5 e3d and BW on week 3. Truthfully though I think the nettle extract had a very symbiotic effect. cuz natty FT of 400 is unheard of. Pat Arnold is a huge nettle fan.

I just think there is a max that clomid can achieve as a T booster and the rest is side effects and money.
 
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i have trouble at cutting the pill properly. it really helps taking 50mg. cant i reduce it to 50mg every other day or evety third day and have the same effect?
The whole idea of what your doing is unknown but definitely don't take 50 a day, if you can't cut the pill try 50 every 3-4 days, clomid stays in your system. I've seen (personally seen) ppl take 25mg 2x a week for trt
 

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The whole idea of what your doing is unknown but definitely don't take 50 a day, if you can't cut the pill try 50 every 3-4 days, clomid stays in your system. I've seen (personally seen) ppl take 25mg 2x a week for trt
I plan on increasing my test. Like trt. But i dont want to increase my e2 too much so that it can neuter the benefits of high test. I ll try 25mg daily. Or 25mg eod if things get rough
 
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I don't think u understand how clomid works. It has estrogen sides and that's y if what you wanna do is possible you need a real low dose
 
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At least in theory, if your test levels are fine there's a chance it will do nothing to raise test
 

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I don't think u understand how clomid works. It has estrogen sides and that's y if what you wanna do is possible you need a real low dose
If taking a low dose can minimize estrogen sides and still have a relatively high test then so be it. I didnt say that the optimal dose is 50. Isnt 25 mg eod a good low dosage?
 
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Fireblitz just said how 12.5 every 3 days got him to 1100. That's top of the normal range. Clomid won't take you out the normal range, if it did I'd be on it right now.
 
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Try 25 eod and after a few weeks get some tests and see what happens, this is all pretty unknown so go for it
 
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I think so...Thats my PCT dose. I got my T levels way up doing 12.5 e3d and BW on week 3. Truthfully though I think the nettle extract had a very symbiotic effect. cuz natty FT of 400 is unheard of. Pat Arnold is a huge nettle fan.

I just think there is a max that clomid can achieve as a T booster and the rest is side effects and money.
Wow. Any special type of stinging nettle root? 400 FT is incredibly high.
 

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You should always have an AI on hand before you start playing with your hormones. Don't start taking it unless symptoms of high E2 arise. There's a good chance you won't need it.
 
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Wow. Any special type of stinging nettle root? 400 FT is incredibly high.
I just bought bulk nettle root 20:1 extract and It's easily the best herb that I have come across for BB. I can't give all the credit to nettle though cuz I have not replicated the regiment but 400 was the number and no other hormone chem other than clomid.
 

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I just bought bulk nettle root 20:1 extract and It's easily the best herb that I have come across for BB. I can't give all the credit to nettle though cuz I have not replicated the regiment but 400 was the number and no other hormone chem other than clomid.
Hey man can you tell me what neetle root is about?
 
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I'm also interested in this , but after you stop clomid you should have lower test levels than before ?
 

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