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Proviron + Andriol

Fuego

Fuego

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Anyone tried stacking proviron with any steroid for the purpose of increasing the potency of the other steroid?

If yes, what dosages of proviron worked for you?
 
i dont know how it would increase potency of something else,

i tend to think that proviron can cut into SOME gains by competing for the AR, while posing not anabolic activity.
 
proviron binds to shbg lowering it ,and with that if you use test yes there will be more of it to attach to the ar`s , I never use this but I heard a lot of guys saying it works
 
nunes said:
proviron binds to shbg lowering it ,and with that if you use test yes there will be more of it to attach to the ar`s , I never use this but I heard a lot of guys saying it works
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that i can see, but being that proviron binds to the ARs as well, how much will it actually leave.................................
 
nunes said:
good question...
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i think its safe to say, not to use anything that binds to the AR, that has no muscle building properties, with something that binds to the AR and has muscle building properties, becuase they can/may compete for the receptors tampering into gains....
 
crazyfool405 said:
i think its safe to say, not to use anything that binds to the AR, that has no muscle building properties, with something that binds to the AR and has muscle building properties, becuase they can/may compete for the receptors tampering into gains....
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maybe ,I dunno
divanil can do the same without that risk and is safer
 
I use proviron when i run something (never pinned though) just for libido purposes. I've never had it hinder any gains. I've run it with anavar and tbol.
 
Hmmm... Alot of good opinions here, thanks. But have anyone tried Andriol and experienced good gains from it? Mass, strength?
 
andriol is for guess that are scared of the needle and or just have something against using injectable test. Andriol is going to be the same as injectable test but youll need a hell of alot more to get close to the injectable. Waste of money imo.
 
andriol has been used by body builders with good success for strength back in the day,

they would normally take it pre workout, and it would give them a nice boost.

i used it with Dbol, it was ok, long story short, high BP cut me out at 5 weeks, i just added it for libido, i was shut down hard at week 2.5
 
Alright. The thing is that I got some stuff from a friend who doesn't want it. Changed his mind about it or whatever. So basicly, I'm sitting with 2 packs of Andriol, 2 packs of Anadrol and 2 packs of proviron, and I'm kinda wondering if I could use a combo of em to make gains in mass and strength.
 
Fuego said:
Alright. The thing is that I got some stuff from a friend who doesn't want it. Changed his mind about it or whatever. So basicly, I'm sitting with 2 packs of Andriol, 2 packs of Anadrol and 2 packs of proviron, and I'm kinda wondering if I could use a combo of em to make gains in mass and strength.
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you need at least 6 pills a day of andriol to see something , do your maths
 
proviron

proviron is great wit test, also adds to libodo and is in my opinion better than nolva nd arimidex for high androgenic doses of aromitizing agents. great to add to any stack or post cycle.
 
Pirate Grim said:
proviron is great wit test, also adds to libodo and is in my opinion better than nolva nd arimidex for high androgenic doses of aromitizing agents. great to add to any stack or post cycle.
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Awright. Have you tried this yourself? What kinda gains did ya get?
 
I've never seen any more or less gains while using proviron. The only uses I see for it during a cycle is for Libido purposes and as an AI. I've never run proviron along with anything that could aromatize so I do not know how well it works in that area. Does anyone know how well proviron would work as an AI as opposed to Arimidex?
 
joeymutz said:
I've never seen any more or less gains while using proviron. The only uses I see for it during a cycle is for Libido purposes and as an AI. I've never run proviron along with anything that could aromatize so I do not know how well it works in that area. Does anyone know how well proviron would work as an AI as opposed to Arimidex?
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arimidex and letro are lightyears away from proviron,

stronger, and no AR binding affinity,
 
Proviron isnt a good substitute for an AI. Its ok if you arent prone to estrogenic sides or the cycle is really light but it cant be used as a substitute when a real AI is needed.
 
Fuego said:
Alright. The thing is that I got some stuff from a friend who doesn't want it. Changed his mind about it or whatever. So basicly, I'm sitting with 2 packs of Andriol, 2 packs of Anadrol and 2 packs of proviron, and I'm kinda wondering if I could use a combo of em to make gains in mass and strength.
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Why not use the andriol and anadrol together? Scared of the sides?
 
Botch said:
Why not use the andriol and anadrol together? Scared of the sides?
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I could, not too scared of the sides, cos I guess I could pulse or do lower doses on the drol. I just don't know if anadrol is any good at building at all. Heard alot of the gains are soaking wet.
 
steroid profiles... search will answer all your questions
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Cost not withstanding, lets see what kind of Andriol side effects we can expect (besides the catabolic effect it will have on your wallet). Although it has a reputation for being very mild, you´ll still see some results from Andriol. One study using a very low dose on adolescent boys still showed a reasonable gain in Fat Free Mass(3) even though the boys were not training. And in another study focusing on the elderly, it improved their quality of life considerably (as androgens often do) (6), and also had beneficial effects on erectile dysfunction (7) (again, this is typical of androgens). This is certainly promising, but in a world where first time-ste In fact, it may even be a useful adjunct with Viagra for this purpose (8). However, in a world where first time steroid users expect upwards of 20lbs per cycle, I would suspect many will be disappointed with the 5lbs or so a cycle of Andriol will produce. Granted, that´s a conservative estimate, but I can´t really be confident predicting much more muscle is to be expected from Andriol. Taking a large amount of Andriol is actually pretty safe (except for your bank account), and there was even a 3 month study done in Korea, where a pretty small dose of Andriol ( 160 mg daily for 3 weeks then half that dose for the remainder of the study) resulted in a very nice rise in testosterone. Serum total testosterone increased from 2.13 +/- 1.20 ng/ml at baseline to 6.04 +/- 3.08 ng/ml (p = 0.005) after 12 weeks. In addition, free testosterone was (barely) significantly changed from 8.60 +/- 2.25 pg/ml to 11.40 +/- 3.81 pg/ml (p = 0.13) (10). However, there were no significant changes in liver function tests, red blood cell count or lipid profiles, nor were there any significant adverse reactions that would have led to the cessation of the administration of oral testosterone. So the scientists at Organon have succeeded in making a nice, safe, moderately effective orally available treatment for low androgen levels. But can we (athletes and bodybuilders) use it also?

Truthfully, I can´t be confident predicting more than a 5lbs gain with the use of Andriol, because this product has a very odd property, and that is the widely varying effects it has on test subjects. In one study I read, four test subjects were each given Andriol, and one had a huge surge in testosterone levels going up to 60.1nmol/L and the other only had a 11.5nmol/L level(5)! The remaining 2 test subjects fell in between those levels. I am speculating that the differences experienced by the test subjects were primarily due to the variances inherent in the lymphatic system. But to make matters even more inconsistent, there is no evidence that those variances wouldn´t occur within the same person taking Andriol (i.e. you get a huge surge in testosterone one day, and a very minor one the next day). This may be due to variability associated with whether this stuff is taken with food or not. Since it operates via association with your small intestine and lymphatic pathways, taking it with food greatly enhances it´s bioavailability (9), and this may be a case of "problem solved" but I´m hesitant to close the books on andriol´s absorption problems so quickly, for now, we´ll just say you are spending your money much more wisely if you take your andriol with meals.

Despite all of it´s problems, if I had the money to run 10-15 caps of Andriol/day, and if I were looking for a stand-alone oral compound to safely run for a full cycle (of perhaps 12 weeks), then I have to admit, Andriol would be my #1 choice.
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