Prosthesis build

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Just checking if there is a new ETA for prosynthesis build? ETA states on site 4/30. Just curious if this product will be continued?

@mikearnold
@Smont
 
Smont said:
My auto correct is wrong 9 out of 10 times lol. And my talk to text is even worse
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Thanks for the intel! Yeah your talk to text is next level lol. Think we are both on the same plane of no fux given

Alright I’ll keep my eyes peeled. Build was magical, and MA keeps upping the performance so I’m stoked to see where it goes!
 
Man I still use base ProSynthesis before every session basically, and it really has helped DOMS overall, without having to drink protein powder and the bloat that brings me.

Plus it’s easier to slam a bit of fruity water before I head to the gym first thing in the morning than a creamy shake.

Cheaper than 2 scoops of preWO protein powder, feels better, works better.
 
What’s the deal with build ? Why is there no eta ? I just got back into working out after 9 months off with a torn Acl and meniscus.. I found an un opened build in my cabinet and been taking it, doms are so much better
 
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What’s the deal with build ? Why is there no eta ? I just got back into working out after 9 months off with a torn Acl and meniscus.. I found an un opened build in my cabinet and been taking it, doms are so much better
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As of now, to the best of my understanding, there is no ETA and build Is froze meaning nothing is going to change and it's just up in the air. Regular pro 17 is still available, I'm actually drinking it right now on my way to a push session :) I'd also like the build back but as of right now it's not happening.

I feel like usually when I make a post like this, mike is not too far behind me to correct something I was wrong about so I'm sitting here with 🤞 hoping mike follows me up with its gonna be back soon. 😁, but I dont think so. I believe it's just hanging in limbo
 
ProSynthesis-BUILD
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I am going to write up a longer explanation eventually, but for now, I will say the following. The BUILD will have to be reformulated. Why? As I previously stated, I was contacted by the sellers of Mediator and was told that I needed to remove the Mediator logo from the front of my bottle, as it violated their guidelines. I had no clue that I wasn't allowed to have the logo on the front of the bottle, as most companies that sell patented ingredients want you to have their logo on the bottle (for recognition purposes). Apparently, they do not. So, I complied with all guidelines. I was informed by both a Mediator rep (at their office) as well as their attorney that everything should be fine and to hang tight for the final decision. A few months later their attorney told me I was not granted approval. Why? Its along story, but in short, I will say the following. I am now 99% certain that I was reported to the company (maker of Mediator) by a direct competitor that sells Mediator. As it turns out, it appears that this was NOT the only attempt made by this competitor to have BUILD removed from the market (the prior attempt failed). Ultimately, I was told through back-channels that the reason I was denied approval to continue using Mediator was because the company did not want to be associated with a company (MA Labs) that had a prior history of products (e.g., Vicaine) being removed from the market; a fact brought to their attention by said competitor. And if anyone tells you that I was denied approval because I may have illicitly purchased Mediator, or was using a different form of phosphatidic acid, I have all the purchase records and email communications between my manufacturer, myself, and an official Mediator rep, to prove otherwise. Any individual attempting to disparage me by claiming that I did anything wrong (outside of putting the logo on the front of my bottle) would be lying to you. The only reason I mention this is not because anyone has made such a claim, but because I anticipate the possibility after posting this. There is a LOT of nasty backstabbers in this industry that will do nearly anything to improve their sales, regardless of their own prior history in the industry, or how it might effect anyone else. Being that BUILD contained Mediator at a price that no one else could touch (Mediator, plus a kilo of EAAs, plus HICA, HMB, etc.), it is not surprising that some competitors would want it gone. After all, why spend $60 on Mediator alone, when you could spend just $20 more and get the same dose of Mediator, plus everything else I listed above? It was a no-brainer...and competitors knew that. Mediator itself, at the cost we supplement companies pay, is $14 for a 30 day supply at 1.5 grams daily. I was charging people only $20 to add a full month's dose of Mediator to ProSynthesis-BUILD. Obviously, no one else was doing that. The customers loved it, but not competitors.

Anyway, while it is unfortunate that I will no longer being using Mediator in BUILD, I am going to make a new version...and it is going to be awesome! Not only do I think it will be just as good, but better, and without increasing the price.
 
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Sorry for the trouble you were having. Good luck with future BUILD and I will be purchasing when available
 
Mike Arnold said:
ProSynthesis-BUILD
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I am going to write up a longer explanation eventually, but for now, I will say the following. The BUILD will have to be reformulated. Why? As I previously stated, I was contacted by the sellers of Mediator and was told that I needed to remove the Mediator logo from the front of my bottle, as it violated their guidelines. I had no clue that I wasn't allowed to have the logo on the front of the bottle, as most companies that sell patented ingredients want you to have their logo on the bottle (for recognition purposes). Apparently, they do not. So, I complied with all guidelines. I was informed by both a Mediator rep (at their office) as well as their attorney that everything should be fine and to hang tight for the final decision. A few months later their attorney told me I was not granted approval. Why? Its along story, but in short, I will say the following. I am now 99% certain that I was reported to the company (maker of Mediator) by a direct competitor that sells Mediator. As it turns out, it appears that this was NOT the only attempt made by this competitor to have BUILD removed from the market (the prior attempt failed). Ultimately, I was told through back-channels that the reason I was denied approval to continue using Mediator was because the company did not want to be associated with a company (MA Labs) that had a prior history of products (e.g., Vicaine) being removed from the market; a fact brought to their attention by said competitor. And if anyone tells you that I was denied approval because I may have illicitly purchased Mediator, or was using a different form of phosphatidic acid, I have all the purchase records and email communications between my manufacturer, myself, and an official Mediator rep, to prove otherwise. Any individual attempting to disparage me by claiming that I did anything wrong (outside of putting the logo on the front of my bottle) would be lying to you. The only reason I mention this is not because anyone has made such a claim, but because I anticipate the possibility after posting this. There is a LOT of nasty backstabbers in this industry that will do nearly anything to improve their sales, regardless of their own prior history in the industry, or how it might effect anyone else. Being that BUILD contained Mediator at a price that no one else could touch (Mediator, plus a kilo of EAAs, plus HICA, HMB, etc.), it is not surprising that some competitors would want it gone. After all, why spend $60 on Mediator alone, when you could spend just $20 more and get the same dose of Mediator, plus everything else I listed above? It was a no-brainer...and competitors knew that. Mediator itself, at the cost we supplement companies pay, is $14 for a 30 day supply at 1.5 grams daily. I was charging people only $20 to add a full month's dose of Mediator to ProSynthesis-BUILD. Obviously, no one else was doing that. The customers loved it, but not competitors.

Anyway, while it is unfortunate that I will no longer being using Mediator in BUILD, I am going to make a new version...and it is going to be awesome! Not only do I think it will be just as good, but better, and without increasing the price.
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I will 100% be looking out for the new formula and have no hesitations that it will pack a punch. Keep up the good fight!
 
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