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Prostate Help: Best Supplement To Lower Estrogen WITHOUT Lowering DHT

rebeccas

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Hi Guys,
Hoping you can help out.

I've read dozens of threads on AM about lowering estrogen for prostate health with Saw Palmetto. The problem with Saw Palmetto, is that it also lowers DHT levels which isn't something I want. Actually, I want to increase to increase DHT levels while lowering estrogen levels so that libido and sex drive increase while keeping the prostate under control. :)

Someone suggested Astaxanthin which inhibits 5a-reductase. I understand this would lower both estrogen and DHT, but I also read that Astaxanthin has a a greater affinity toward lowering estrogen than DHT. Is this correct?

If a few supplements/ingredients can be suggested it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
RS
 
I take tadalafil for the prostate.... And cause it's fun lol. Its used for bph at 5mg daily, not effect on estrogen.
 
rebeccas said:
Hi, thanks. I'll look into this. How many mg/day? Any other ingredients that support increased DHT levels? RS
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I haven't used it yet , but 500-1000 g is recommended

For dht? I've looked into this myself and the only thing I have found is on sorghum and creatine monohydrate. That is for purely with the natural stuff
 
mawalega said:
I take tadalafil for the prostate.... And cause it's fun lol. Its used for bph at 5mg daily, not effect on estrogen.
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This works very well !!
 
If you want to lower estrogen and increase DHT an aromatase inhibitor would be the way to go.

Shameless plug: Arimahex is on BOGO...

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rebeccas said:
Hi Guys,
Hoping you can help out.

I've read dozens of threads on AM about lowering estrogen for prostate health with Saw Palmetto. The problem with Saw Palmetto, is that it also lowers DHT levels which isn't something I want. Actually, I want to increase to increase DHT levels while lowering estrogen levels so that libido and sex drive increase while keeping the prostate under control. :)

Someone suggested Astaxanthin which inhibits 5a-reductase. I understand this would lower both estrogen and DHT, but I also read that Astaxanthin has a a greater affinity toward lowering estrogen than DHT. Is this correct?

If a few supplements/ingredients can be suggested it would be very helpful.

Thanks,
RS
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The best product I've ever seen (by far) for Prostate function is Helios.

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Renew1 said:
The best product I've ever seen (by far) for Prostate function is Helios.

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i 2nd this...i bought because of your recommendation and i'm glad i did---i get results from just .5ml daily applied to stomach.
 
thebigt said:
i 2nd this...i bought because of your recommendation and i'm glad i did---i get results from just .5ml daily applied to stomach.
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I was surprised by this effect, when I was testing a Beta version of Helios, from Apex-Alchemy .... of course.

I waited a while to report it, because I wanted to be sure it was a legitimate effect of the product.
... And it certainly was.
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rebeccas said:
Curcumin? Please explain.
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With Apex-Alchemy's Helios product, you are starting out with the more potent Curcumin metabolite.
And then it is being applied Transdermally, which means more of the (already stronger) metabolite is bioavailable.

I'm assuming that it is the very strong anti inflammatory effects of this product that make the Prostate react (and act) in a pre-BPH manner.

But one thing I guarantee .... It works Fantastically for me, and other guys who've tried it so far.
 
Renew1 said:
With Apex-Alchemy's Helios product, you are starting out with the more potent Curcumin metabolite.
And then it is being applied Transdermally, which means more of the (already stronger) metabolite is bioavailable.

I'm assuming that it is the very strong anti inflammatory effects of this product that make the Prostate react (and act) in a pre-BPH manner.

But one thing I guarantee .... It works Fantastically for me, and other guys who've tried it so far.
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I will be trying this. Sounds good and too good to be true. 🙂
No disrespect intended, just looking for a solid.
 
Humbl3 said:
I will be trying this. Sounds good and too good to be true. 🙂
No disrespect intended, just looking for a solid.
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Yeah....

Imigagine how bad it would have looked on me, if I had reported this earlier, and then been wrong about it.

.... That's why I waited until I was sure.
Is it possible that there is someone who won't get the same beneficial effects from it?
Sure .... Anything is possible.
But, like I said, it is working Wonderfully for me, and others.
.... @thebigt , for one.

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mawalega said:
I take tadalafil for the prostate.... And cause it's fun lol. Its used for bph at 5mg daily, not effect on estrogen.
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Rocket3015 said:
This works very well !!
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How are you liking it? My Dr started me on 5mg a day last week, I was apprehensive since that stuff tends to give me a headache and dry mouth especially when I wake up at night.

Taking it in the hopes of getting up less at night to pee, so curious what benefits you've noticed on it and how long it took before you saw results related to prostate health.
 
Renew1 said:
Yeah....

Imigagine how bad it would have looked on me, if I had reported this earlier, and then been wrong about it.

.... That's why I waited until I was sure.
Is it possible that there is someone who won't get the same beneficial effects from it?
Sure .... Anything is possible.
But, like I said, it is working Wonderfully for me, and others.
.... @thebigt , for one.

(y)
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exceeded my expectations, thank you for recommending.
 
DieselNY said:
How are you liking it? My Dr started me on 5mg a day last week, I was apprehensive since that stuff tends to give me a headache and dry mouth especially when I wake up at night.

Taking it in the hopes of getting up less at night to pee, so curious what benefits you've noticed on it and how long it took before you saw results related to prostate health.
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Lots of studies and info in there if wanted on tadalafil and bph... the 2.5 vs 5 mg is seen to improve scores much more than the lower dose so I wouldn't go lower to avoid sides. I know some get the sides, I do too (back pain and a short lived headache) but mine seemed to have mostly gone away with time, so hopefully you may be the same. I can't give an exact amount of time but I do not have to get up at much and would probably say I noticed it within the first month? I'd guess

All around I like tada. Sides have been very minimal and it's seen as pretty safe, good when libido is hurting and gives a nice pump on top of bph 🥳
 
DieselNY said:
How are you liking it? My Dr started me on 5mg a day last week, I was apprehensive since that stuff tends to give me a headache and dry mouth especially when I wake up at night.

Taking it in the hopes of getting up less at night to pee, so curious what benefits you've noticed on it and how long it took before you saw results related to prostate health.
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The headache for me went away after a wee or two and I never noticed dry mouth, I take it first thing in the AM. Less getting up to pee and stronger stream at 5mg a day.
 
Renew1 said:
I was surprised by this effect, when I was testing a Beta version of Helios, from Apex-Alchemy .... of course.

I waited a while to report it, because I wanted to be sure it was a legitimate effect of the product.
... And it certainly was.
(y)
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Hi Renew1, what results? Also, does curcumin lower estrogen without impacting DHT? Thanks
 
rebeccas said:
Hi thebigt, what results have you experienced? Thanks
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i run a lot of andro's that convert to dht, it is common for me to feel like i need to pee only to stand there and only a weak stream comes out, since starting helios stream is more normal and the urge to pee is much less frequent...also it is aiding somewhat the aches and pains of arthritis and sciatica, but for just .5ml applied to stomach i am very satisfied with the product.
 
thebigt said:
i run a lot of andro's that convert to dht, it is common for me to feel like i need to pee only to stand there and only a weak stream comes out, since starting helios stream is more normal and the urge to pee is much less frequent...also it is aiding somewhat the aches and pains of arthritis and sciatica, but for just .5ml applied to stomach i am very satisfied with the product.
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Hi,
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
RS
 
Renew1 said:
Yeah....

Imigagine how bad it would have looked on me, if I had reported this earlier, and then been wrong about it.

.... That's why I waited until I was sure.
Is it possible that there is someone who won't get the same beneficial effects from it?
Sure .... Anything is possible.
But, like I said, it is working Wonderfully for me, and others.
.... @thebigt , for one.

(y)
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Renew, what dosage were you taking it at?
 
JoePaul39 said:
Renew, what dosage were you taking it at?
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I started out at 2ml because I was Beta Testing a version of the product, and I wanted to see results quickly.

2 or 3 weeks after I started seeing a LOT of different positive results (including BPH alleviation), I dropped down to 1ml.
After a few weeks, some slight BPH symptoms returned. But even at that, it was the greatest change I've ever seen from Any type of product.

A couple of things:

1). I'm assuming that (for me, people are different) I might have still kept full results at 1.5ml. But I don't know for sure, because I haven't tried that dosage yet.

2). @thebigt said that he gets amazing results at .5ml per day. He also applies it to his stomach. Based upon his results, I'm going to try that soon myself.
 
Renew1 said:
I started out at 2ml because I was Beta Testing a version of the product, and I wanted to see results quickly.

2 or 3 weeks after I started seeing a LOT of different positive results (including BPH alleviation), I dropped down to 1ml.
After a few weeks, some slight BPH symptoms returned. But even at that, it was the greatest change I've ever seen from Any type of product.

A couple of things:

1). I'm assuming that (for me, people are different) I might have still kept full results at 1.5ml. But I don't know for sure, because I haven't tried that dosage yet.

2). @thebigt said that he gets amazing results at .5ml per day. He also applies it to his stomach. Based upon his results, I'm going to try that soon myself.
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Cool, I think I will give it a try. Were you discontinue all your other BPH supplements? Is it’s other primary function for joints? This may have been answered, but does it effect estrogen?
 
Renew1 said:
I started out at 2ml because I was Beta Testing a version of the product, and I wanted to see results quickly.

2 or 3 weeks after I started seeing a LOT of different positive results (including BPH alleviation), I dropped down to 1ml.
After a few weeks, some slight BPH symptoms returned. But even at that, it was the greatest change I've ever seen from Any type of product.

A couple of things:

1). I'm assuming that (for me, people are different) I might have still kept full results at 1.5ml. But I don't know for sure, because I haven't tried that dosage yet.

2). @thebigt said that he gets amazing results at .5ml per day. He also applies it to his stomach. Based upon his results, I'm going to try that soon myself.
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i found several articles citing application to stomach and bph. had i not seen results at .5ml i would have increased dose but found no need to go higher.
 
JoePaul39 said:
Cool, I think I will give it a try. Were you discontinue all your other BPH supplements? Is it’s other primary function for joints? This may have been answered, but does it effect estrogen?
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Yeah, I discontinued anything else I was taking that was BPH related, because I wanted to see only results from Helios.

It is a Strong anti-inflammatory, among other things.

There's a small write-up on Helios' page, on Apex-Alchemy.
And Nos made a pretty good post on it (I'll try to find it, and link it).

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JoePaul39 said:
Cool, I think I will give it a try. Were you discontinue all your other BPH supplements? Is it’s other primary function for joints? This may have been answered, but does it effect estrogen?
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Good post by Nos:

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I am going to give it a try. Does anyone have a discount code? I am already on Super Beta Prostate for prostate support, 3 pills curcumin per day for joints anD also have to take black pepper extract with the curcumin due to its poor absorption. If I could eliminate all three of these depending on the dose of the transdermal I could save money and not have to dose curcumin 3 times a day.
 
mawalega said:
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Lots of studies and info in there if wanted on tadalafil and bph... the 2.5 vs 5 mg is seen to improve scores much more than the lower dose so I wouldn't go lower to avoid sides. I know some get the sides, I do too (back pain and a short lived headache) but mine seemed to have mostly gone away with time, so hopefully you may be the same. I can't give an exact amount of time but I do not have to get up at much and would probably say I noticed it within the first month? I'd guess

All around I like tada. Sides have been very minimal and it's seen as pretty safe, good when libido is hurting and gives a nice pump on top of bph
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Update. 5mg cialis is really working well, major reduction in numbers of times I get up to pee at night infact 2 nights I slept right through.
 
JoePaul39 said:
I am going to give it a try. Does anyone have a discount code? I am already on Super Beta Prostate for prostate support, 3 pills curcumin per day for joints anD also have to take black pepper extract with the curcumin due to its poor absorption. If I could eliminate all three of these depending on the dose of the transdermal I could save money and not have to dose curcumin 3 times a day.
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With the Holidays coming up, I would be surprised if the Nos Boss didn't run a sale sometime soon.
 
JoePaul39 said:
Awesome! Please post the sale in this thread so I will know when.
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We try to post all over during sales but please be sure to subscribe to our newsletter so we can send the most up-to-date information straight to your inbox.

😎👍
 
DieselNY said:
Update. 5mg cialis is really working well, major reduction in numbers of times I get up to pee at night infact 2 nights I slept right through.
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I'm really glad it worked out for you man. Its the little things that can improve quality of life if even just from something small like better sleep.
 
DieselNY said:
Update. 5mg cialis is really working well, major reduction in numbers of times I get up to pee at night infact 2 nights I slept right through.
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Good Deal !
 
Just my random 2c, I take dht blockers for hair loss prevention and have zero side effects. My sex life is the same so I would not worry about lowering dht levels. Some people get side effects, but most don't. I just felt cloudy for 2 weeks when I started after that, I felt no different. Been on it for over 2 years.
 
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