Promagnon (First Prohomone)

dj exclusivo

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I've been working out close to a year. And I'm planning in 2-3 months I will start Promagnon.

I'm Thinking doing the Maximus Stack from Gaspari. While on the cycle I'll be also using Coq10, Perfect Cycle for the liver, Omega 3,6,9, Saw Palmetto for Prostate Support, Super Antioxidant for the free rdicals

For my post cycle therapy

I'm thinking of using Indole 3 Carbinol for free radical & Hormone Balance, Liver Detoxifier & Refenerator, ZMA, Saw Palmetto, Horny Goat weed w/ Tribulus & LongJack2

Anabolic Xtreme - PCT, Rebound Xt & Retain. (And Nova for just incase.)

Any suggestions
 
dj exclusivo said:
I've been working out close to a year. And I'm planning in 2-3 months I will start Promagnon.

I'm Thinking doing the Maximus Stack from Gaspari. While on the cycle I'll be also using Coq10, Perfect Cycle for the liver, Omega 3,6,9, Saw Palmetto for Prostate Support, Super Antioxidant for the free rdicals

For my post cycle therapy

I'm thinking of using Indole 3 Carbinol for free radical & Hormone Balance, Liver Detoxifier & Refenerator, ZMA, Saw Palmetto, Horny Goat weed w/ Tribulus & LongJack2

Anabolic Xtreme - post cycle therapy, Rebound Xt & Retain. (And Nova for just incase.)

Any suggestions
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You're thinking in the right direction, as far as cycle support and post cycle therapy goes.

I would just use Nolva for PCT, and save yourself about $75, but of course that's heresy in these post-ban days where consumer needs must be created to maintain a business model.

What's the "Maximus Stack?" Not aware of that one. Do you become a transformer at the end of it? j/k :)
 
Siznoyton said:
You're thinking in the right direction, as far as cycle support and post cycle therapy goes.

I would just use Nolva for post cycle therapy, and save yourself about $75, but of course that's heresy in these post-ban days where consumer needs must be created to maintain a business model.

What's the "Maximus Stack?" Not aware of that one. Do you become a transformer at the end of it? j/k :)
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Maximus stack is listed on a certain website as a combination of PHs I do believe.
 
Week 1 Promagnon 1 Cap
Week 2 Promagnon 1 Cap
Week 3 Promagnon 1 Cap & Novedex XT 2-3 caps per day
Week 4 Promagnon 1 Cap & Novedex XT 2-3 caps per day
Week 5 ------------------ Novedex XT 4 caps per day
Week 6 ------------------ Novedex XT 4 caps per day
 
dj exclusivo said:
Week 1 Promagnon 1 Cap
Week 2 Promagnon 1 Cap
Week 3 Promagnon 1 Cap & Novedex XT 2-3 caps per day
Week 4 Promagnon 1 Cap & Novedex XT 2-3 caps per day
Week 5 ------------------ Novedex XT 4 caps per day
Week 6 ------------------ Novedex XT 4 caps per day
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That seems like a weak cycle.
 
dj exclusivo said:
For my post cycle therapy

I'm thinking of using Indole 3 Carbinol for free radical & Hormone Balance, Liver Detoxifier & Refenerator, ZMA, Saw Palmetto, Horny Goat weed w/ Tribulus & LongJack2

Anabolic Xtreme - post cycle therapy, Rebound Xt & Retain. (And Nova for just incase.)

Any suggestions
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Anabolic Xtreme PCT and Rebound XT are duplicative. They both contain aromataise inhibiters. Moreover, since you're talking about taking Novadex XT during cycle, you're on three AIs (though Rebound XT and Novedex XT are both ATD based AIs). Not sure why you would be doing this.
 
So what do you recommend? i should just use post cycle therapy & Rebound xt?

I know its a weak cycle, I was thinking at first to stack with Tren-X or Trenadrol but I'm trying to avoid some side effects.... & I want to recover fast.

& How can I use Nolva in this cycle. I have access to liquid Nolva....
 
F*ck all.

DR.D said:
Estrogen only "rebounds" based on the mechanism of suppression. SERM, for example, only masks estrogen expression by occupying receptors but estrogen production is left unchecked and actually increases as testosterone levels increase. AI's like letro inhibit inducible enzymes and just like a leaky faucet, they body will eventually try to balance the equation with increased aromatase activity. Steroidal AI's like Teslac, Exemestane, and ReboundXT will not result in 'rebound' phenomena because the inhibition is non-competitive and irreversible. They act as false substrates, so aromatase is still happy to act on them (instead of androstenedione) and the body keeps no record of an imbalance. There is no leaky faucet. In fact, after prolonged use, steroidal AI's often produce a protracted anti-e benefit even after being discontinued. This is why I suggest an inverse taper with SERM and RXT for post cycle therapy with an abrupt stoppage of RXT at the end. As the SERM elevates androgen/estrogen production, the AI dose is increased to compensate while the SERM is phased out. It works quite well to use this approach and rebound is not encountered. Adding LX and/or DHEA also really makes for a killer PCT in this scheme. This is a typical example of my PCT:

wk1: Clomid 150mg/d, RXT 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 75mg/d
wk2: Clomid 100mg/d, RXT 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 50mg/d
wk3: Nolva 60mg/d, RXT 50mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, LX 25mg/d
wk4: Nolva 40mg/d, RXT 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d
wk5: Nolva 20mg/d, RXT 75mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d
wk6: RXT 75mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d

Notice I phase the Clomid out and introduce the Nolva later. This helps prevent sides from developing from accumulation of estrogenic metabolites from the Clomid and also acts to minimize the use of Nolva, which is more liver toxic than Clomid. Rebound is very unlikely and estrogen biosynthesis will likely be significantly lowered for 3+ wks even after the end of this PCT. I do long ones, as you can see.
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dj exclusivo said:
That's too much stuff and too complex. remeber I'm new in this. what about just using Armidex and post cycle therapy.....
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You don't need to be an expert on the endocrine system, but that type of mentality is playing with fire. You're messing with your hormones, that's serious stuff. You take a chance when you mess with this stuff even when you got all your bases covered.

Please don't end up like some guys on here who say, "I just finished my cycle yesterday, what should I do for pct? I don't want to lose my gains or get gyno. Please help?" You owe it to your body to get a basic understanding of this stuff before you start tinkering. It's obvious you're trying to by asking questions, so keep it up and don't be detered if somethings are a bit confusing. If you read enough it starts to make more sense. Read a thread titled "Running Serm Inverse to ATD." Read that, it will help alot. Don't take any of this as me coming down at ya because I'm not. Good luck man.
 
dj exclusivo said:
So what do you recommend? i should just use post cycle therapy & Rebound xt?

I know its a weak cycle, I was thinking at first to stack with Tren-X or Trenadrol but I'm trying to avoid some side effects.... & I want to recover fast.

& How can I use Nolva in this cycle. I have access to liquid Nolva....
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I would suggest that you spend some more time researching and planning this. There is a lot of information here that can be of use to you.
 
Fearhk213 said:
You don't need to be an expert on the endocrine system, but that type of mentality is playing with fire. You're messing with your hormones, that's serious stuff. You take a chance when you mess with this stuff even when you got all your bases covered.

Please don't end up like some guys on here who say, "I just finished my cycle yesterday, what should I do for post cycle therapy? I don't want to lose my gains or get gyno. Please help?" You owe it to your body to get a basic understanding of this stuff before you start tinkering. It's obvious you're trying to by asking questions, so keep it up and don't be detered if somethings are a bit confusing. If you read enough it starts to make more sense. Read a thread titled "Running Serm Inverse to ATD." Read that, it will help alot. Don't take any of this as me coming down at ya because I'm not. Good luck man.
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It's actually Running SERM inverse to ADT.

Typo.
And that's where I got the info for him.
 
I want to plan my PCT Cycle, So I need someone to talk to me clear with no abreviation etc...... I want good Cycle that its not complex...
 
dj exclusivo said:
I want to plan my post cycle therapy Cycle, So I need someone to talk to me clear with no abreviation etc...... I want good Cycle that its not complex...
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It depends mainly upon what you're stacking and for how long. For example. If you're doing a 4 week cycle of Superdrol with Phera Plex You should expect some shut down and run SERMs which is nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate or other SERMs. Then you have anti-estrogen's like Rebound Reloaded, 6-oxo. Then you have Activate and Alpha Drive XL which should get your balls stimulated and get you back to normal production. With damn just promagnon which is light and simple and easy. Try a simple Rebound Reloaded with Activate and some Fenugreek pills. That's pretty damned simple. Make sure you have Milk thistle for liver support if you don't want anabolicinnovations cycle support.
 
dj exclusivo said:
I want to plan my post cycle therapy Cycle, So I need someone to talk to me clear with no abreviation etc...... I want good Cycle that its not complex...
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If your are too lazy to put in the time to research proper cycling, which includes PCT, then you do not need to be using exogenous hormones. Also, working out for only a year does not mean that you are ready to tackle any PH. If you want to make permanent gains, then you should look more in-depth at proper lifting and, most importantly, proper diet.
 
Rodja said:
If your are too lazy to put in the time to research proper cycling, which includes post cycle therapy, then you do not need to be using exogenous hormones. Also, working out for only a year does not mean that you are ready to tackle any PH. If you want to make permanent gains, then you should look more in-depth at proper lifting and, most importantly, proper diet.
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BUMP TO THIS SH*T.
 
dj exclusivo said:
I want to get this right! I'm up for suggetions..
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Promagnon is an easy one. Just grab some Cycle Support, Some Rebound Reloaded and Some Activate. And if you don't even want to spend that much T-Drive is only 15.00. It's cheap ATD. I recommend RR and Activate because they work well together. Then get some Milk Thistle for liver support.
That's about it.

Just keep in mind when you start stacking superdrol and trn and methoxy tst and all that for a 6 week cycle that you'll need SERMs like Nolvadex and some form of ATD like T-Drive or better yet Rebound Reloaded.
 
gotripped said:
Promagnon is an easy one. Just grab some Cycle Support, Some Rebound Reloaded and Some Activate. And if you don't even want to spend that much T-Drive is only 15.00. It's cheap ATD. I recommend RR and Activate because they work well together. Then get some Milk Thistle for liver support.
That's about it.
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Did some searching and ProMagnon-25 is a Halodrol-50 clone and I think you should use nolva right?
 
San Quinn said:
Did some searching and ProMagnon-25 is a Halodrol-50 clone and I think you should use nolva right?
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Use some Nolva/Clomid with an ATD. Nolva/Clomid will work though. Promagnon-25 doesnt have the same chemical formulation as h-50.;
 
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