Prohormone to stack with clen?

5'11" 215 14%bf. diet is realitively on point. Could be a little better. My goal is to stay over 210 but drop as much bf as I can
 
So your looking to recomp basically?

My advice would be to wait and use the clen when your bf% is lower. The effects are more noticeable. IME clen doesn't do anything impressive if your over 10-11% bodyfat. I managed to lose 8lbs in a month with it, but I could have done that without the clen.
 
cajunsaint said:
Which would you recommend... Albuterol or clen
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I would use clen, although I've heard albuterol should be similar.

I'm hesitant to recommend clen to anyone, though. It's no joke. If you've never used it before make sure that you've read a lot about it. It can be deadly if misused
 
Honestly you shouldn't be adding any Clen till you can get to a bf% you're happy with naturally. These aren't magic and if misused deadly. I've never used Clen but have been tempted when progress slows so I've read a ton about it. Bottom line is there is no shortcut to being ripped bro. Diet and training HAVE to be on point b4 any supp or Clen is going to do anything for you. That's my honest opinion I'm sure guys will disagree but I think you really need to learn how to get there naturally through proper diet etc before messing with Clen.
 
bean5er said:
Honestly you shouldn't be adding any Clen till you can get to a bf% you're happy with naturally. These aren't magic and if misused deadly. I've never used Clen but have been tempted when progress slows so I've read a ton about it. Bottom line is there is no shortcut to being ripped bro. Diet and training HAVE to be on point b4 any supp or Clen is going to do anything for you. That's my honest opinion I'm sure guys will disagree but I think you really need to learn how to get there naturally through proper diet etc before messing with Clen.
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^^^^ strong this
 
Natestreo said:
I would use clen, although I've heard albuterol should be similar.

I'm hesitant to recommend clen to anyone, though. It's no joke. If you've never used it before make sure that you've read a lot about it. It can be deadly if misused
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I have used clen before. Liked the results. It's been about a year since the last run. I was just thinking maybe halovar or something of the sort would be a nice kick to the stack with clen
 
cajunsaint said:
I have used clen before. Liked the results. It's been about a year since the last run. I was just thinking maybe halovar or something of the sort would be a nice kick to the stack with clen
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If your trying to use a PH that will shed bodyfat you should look at AnaVar. My experience with hdrol wasn't good in leaning up. I had a buddy who used AnaVar and got very lean on what I know could not have been a good diet (he's clueless)
 
Natestreo said:
If your trying to use a PH that will shed bodyfat you should look at AnaVar. My experience with hdrol wasn't good in leaning up. I had a buddy who used AnaVar and got very lean on what I know could not have been a good diet (he's clueless)
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The hi-tech Pharms brand?
 
cajunsaint said:
Nice. Just placed my order for both clen and the hi tech anavar
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You shouldn't use those both at one time. Too much blood pressure issues. Use the AnaVar and then use the clen afterwards
 
scw538 said:
I don't think that is real anavar. Double check me.
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Uh yeah. All of hi-tech's stuff is scammy.

Look at the ingredients in hi tech "anavar":

S-[2boronethyl] l-cysteine HCL- Arganase inhibitor. Dubious in efficacy.
2--amino-6-boronhexanoic acid - Arganase inhibitor. Dubious in efficacy.
creatine ethyl ester - Creatinine precursor.
creatine monohydrate - good
l-arginine HCL - pretty useless
inosine ethyl ester - useless nucleotide. was studied long ago for athletic improvement, but proved useless: Invalid Link Removed
adenosine triphosphate - this is ATP. Useless to supplement
25-R-spirostan-5A-diol-6-one- a dubious ecdysteroid
dehydroepiandrosterone enanthate - DHEA
smilagenin - plant sapogenin. Likely fairly useless
hecogenin acetate- similar to smilagenin
6-keto-diosgenin cypionate- similar to smilagenin
6-keto diosgenin propionate - similar to smilagenin
6-keto diosgenin acetate - similar to smilagenin
20-hydroxyecdysone deconate - another ecdysteroid
6,7 dihydroxy bergamottin - CYP inhibitor from grapejuice
quebracho blanco HCL - looks like it's used as a natural sweetener (Quebrachitol)
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lololol @ the geniuses ITT thinking it's real Anavar

newsflash: if they advertise in Muscle and Fitness, it's not a real steroid
 
RVAPump said:
lololol @ the geniuses ITT thinking it's real Anavar

newsflash: if they advertise in Muscle and Fitness, it's not a real steroid
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I never said that it was real or not. I mentioned that an individual I know used the hitech brand.

Thanks for the neg? Really?
 
Natestreo said:
I never said that it was real or not. I mentioned that an individual I know used the hitech brand.

Thanks for the neg? Really?
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you: you should use a PH like Anavar
you:my buddy used Anavar
OP: Hi Tech Pharma's Anavar?
you: yes, Hi Tech Pharma's Anavar

did I miss the part where you told him "no that's not real Anavar, you should use something legit."?
 
RVAPump said:
you: you should use a PH like Anavar
you:my buddy used Anavar
OP: Hi Tech Pharma's Anavar?
you: yes, Hi Tech Pharma's Anavar

did I miss the part where you told him "no that's not real Anavar, you should use something legit."?
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Not quite how it went, but good try. But, whatever. I'm not into arguing about it with you.

FWIW: my buddy had a good experience with the Hi-Tech AnaVar.

It's unfortunate if the OP does not have a good experience with it. All I can do is share the knowledge of my own experiences and what I have heard about a product.
 
Natestreo said:
Not quite how it went, but good try. But, whatever. I'm not into arguing about it with you.

FWIW: my buddy had a good experience with the Hi-Tech AnaVar.

It's unfortunate if the OP does not have a good experience with it. All I can do is share the knowledge of my own experiences and what I have heard about a product.
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calmdownbro

looks like that OxyElite Pro is giving you some anger issues
 
also i would like to run real anavar but i have yet to find a source that always come through online. ive had hits and misses. not willing to risk the misses any longer lol
 

What in the world is this? Definitely not a quote from me.
 
if your referring to my post... it wouldnt let me quote everything you posted bc of my post count. so i just quoted your name to show that my post was directed towards you...
 
Gotchya. I thought you tried to manufacture a quote for me haha

Sorry if I mislead you at all. Just true to share what I had been told. Hope you get things straightened out
 
you didnt mislead me at all bro. i read up on the hi tech var, and damn near every review (which there are a lot of) has been positive, looking forward to giving it a run
 
Natestreo said:
Gotchya. I didn't mean to mislead you at all it's just that IME my buddy tickled my throat just a little bit better while he used it. ;)
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Woah nate! That's a lil more than we needed to know! :P
 
Jim2542 said:
Jk buddy! Don't neg me! My e-penis is too small and insignificant to handle it! :D
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Lmao....gonna give some positive reps as a matter of fact. Gave me a good laugh!
 
cajunsaint said:
you didnt mislead me at all bro. i read up on the hi tech var, and damn near every review (which there are a lot of) has been positive, looking forward to giving it a run
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Glad to hear this!
 
katandrol and clen would do nicely.Tbh I'd be worried about clen killing heart cells.DNP if ran correctly can yield the same results if you can bear the heat and it takes a fraction of the time clen takes to lose the same amount of fat.It work great with an EC stack.

But like I said it is a little riskier to get a legit source and to run it properly.
 
For most people I think clen plus a ph is pretty brutal in terms of high bp and cramps/back pumps. Imo you would be way better off recomping with something like epi, hdrol, or even a sarm. Clen is harsh and if you cheat on your diet even just a little it will do nothing for you.
 
SPS said:
For most people I think clen plus a ph is pretty brutal in terms of high bp and cramps/back pumps. Imo you would be way better off recomping with something like epi, hdrol, or even a sarm. Clen is harsh and if you cheat on your diet even just a little it will do nothing for you.
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You're totally correct bro. I think Osta/S4 and ECA would yield crazy results.
 
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