Prohormone advice for 50 plus old males with an enlarged prostate

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I'm looking for feedback or guidance to posts or links that speak to the risk of Prohormone use in men with enlarged prostrates.

At 52 I've used Flomax (Tamsulosin) for about two years. My doctor tells me it's age related and that sooner or later most men will develop BPH. Other than this singular issue, I'm fairly healthy and want to explore Prohormone usage to bulk up.

I've searched through the forums - - and the internet in general, and I've had little success finding people who have the same health issue and also use Prohormones. I'm asking for help in referencing posts from Prohormone users near my age who write about these challenges and recommendation -- basically some real life feedback that might provide guidance on the topic.

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Keoki
 

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Don't use them. I did a cycle of halodrol and I was worried that I'd have a permanent case of limp dick. Test replacement has helped that, along with weekly HCG injections. I'm performing beautifully in the sack now, and I just turned 60.
Just started HGH prescribed by my doc; it's the real deal and my insurance is paying for it. If you're going to go ahead and do PHs anyway, keep your doses low. Don't listen to all the bro science you find online. Personally, I wouldn't touch them again.
 

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Thanks for the info. Do you have an enlarged prostate, and if so, how did it do on the prohormone?
 
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I'm 56. Care to share why your prostate is swollen? Mine is slightly swollen according to my doctor so I understand what you are feeling. Do you use preworkout or other supplements? The reason I ask is that certain supplements can contribute to prostate size.

As far as PHs go, have you had your hormones checked? Before considering PHs it's important to get an idea of your hormone levels. Also, what is your health and body fat condition?
 

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Hi Keoki,
No, I don't have any prostate issues at all. Very lucky at my age, I guess.
 
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There are some medication for enlarged prostate. Even Cialis 5mg ed helps. But, simvastatin, is the best for that matter. Talk to your doc!
 
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Good thread for us older folks. Would also love to know how older crowd successfully uses any hormones other than TRT and keeps prostate in check.

Do these wide spread prostate protection supps actually work/help--While not blocking the positive hormonal boost?
 
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The reason I ask is that certain supplements can contribute to prostate size. ?
I know that Claritin-D causes my prostrate to enlarge, usually within a day of starting to take it (sometimes same day). I live in Fl so at least once a year I end up on Claritin-D for 2 ~ 3 weeks for allergies. My prostrate subsides/returns to normal the day after I stop taking the antihistamine though, and I talked to my Dr about it, and he said not to worry too much. I even had blood work done once while it was enlarged and my PSA levels were still "good".

Just over a month away from 49 myself.
 
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Interesting. Wonder what the mechanism for that is !?!?
 
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I am not sure. I know I had taken both Claritin and Claritin-D before, without any problem. I never bothered to check to see if plain Claritin (Loratadine) had the same affect, or if it was the "D". I do also know that the -D would knock out my appetite in a big way. I end up eating smaller portions and better during those "allergy" weeks. I have almost no "cravings" (for comfort food). Neither of those affects were ones I had recalled before about an year or two ago. But I just may not have been paying enough attention to my bodies cues back then?
 
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I have no idea but I made a mental note of this. Interesting for sure.
 
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Google Claritin and prostate - tons of complaints.
 
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Google Claritin and prostate - tons of complaints.
Thanks. To be honest I never looked that deep since it was manageable for me (it wasn't so bad that I could still pee when I needed to :)) and my doctor said not to worry about it (so long as the symptoms subsided after I stopped taking the Claritin). I am guessing he already knew about the data and correlation between C-D and prostrate issues. But I should have done some research myself. A couple of years back my allergies were so bad it turned into a serious sinus infection. At that time he prescribed for me to take a decongestant, which is when I started taking the Claritin-D regularly, and the first time I noticed the prostrate affect.
 
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I wouldn't do it myself, but I also took a **** load of stims when younger and have developed hypertension..are you taking Proscar? If you're going to do it I'd pick a prohormone with lower androgenic effects..
 
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Saw Palmetto...It's been a while on the prohormone trail for me but never had issue with "superdrol" and/or clones. My PSA went up to 7 taking some prohormone by ironmag labs but it was possibly from some crazy sport ****ing before lab tests.

I've taken anavar and OT without any issues.
 

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Have you considered a Sarm such as Rad-140 or MK-677. Rad has been shown to completely spare the prostate and other tissues and target muscles. Mk-677 makes your body secrete more growth hormone, which builds muscle, and also increases appetite. I'm close to your age and taking Rad, plus another Sarm, Ostarine and just ordered some MK. First cycle in 28 years so I'll let you know how it goes. I had previous concerns such as you from past prostate issues which is why I went the SARMs route. Also, some body builders take Advanced Cycle Support supplements which supposedly have herbs to protect the prostrate and liver while on cycle.
 

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Please do verify your diagnosis. While an enlarged prostate often interferes with urine flow, most such as myself have a small prostate with decreased flow due to muscle contraction. If your prostate is not actually enlarged, you need not worry about prohormones.

Alpha-blockers act directly on the muscle tension. If one also has some hypertension, a less selective alpha-blocker reduces that as well. I tried terazosin but prefer doxazosin because it interferes less with erections. Tamsulosin does not risk hypotension but interferes with erections and often with ejaculation as well.

The prostate requires DHT to retain its size and does shrink if one eliminates DHT with finasteride or dutasteride. Unfortunately, the penis does the same and either of those drugs can permanently damage erections. Once there is a minimal concentration of DHT, prostate growth (and prostate cancer for that matter) are driven by estrogen. That estrogen is mostly produced locally. Anabolics that do not aromatize and/or the use of aromatase inhibitors can help there. SARMS are worth consideration. I can vouch for ostarine.

I found no reliable research on SERMS such as tamoxifen to prevent prostate growth. Just as there are different alpha-receptors in different parts of the male reproductive system, there are different estrogen receptors as well. A SERM might block estrogen but still stimulate prostate receptors enough for growth.

Prohormones are used for a limited cycle and normal testosterone production usually restarts. If one begins HRT, the level is usually below what is needed for muscle growth but its extended use may create the need for lifelong HRT. Resist or delay that option.

Finally, resist the folk-cures for BPH such as saw palmetto. It does not compare with any of the drugs that I mentioned for effectiveness. My medical plan charges me less than $1 per month of doxazosin while a month of saw palmetto costs $25-$30.
 
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