Progress through supps or straight to pinning?

[ironviking]

Hey guys, was talking to my old lifting partner recently. He’s thinking of using some PEDs of various sorts and asked if it would it be better or even make sense to progress from using lighter stuff like Formeron, then run a PH cycle and from there go to the stuff you got to pin? OR go straight to AAS? This is assuming diet, training, and dedication is dialed in.

My first thought was straight to pinning but he brought up some good points like seeing if supps like Formeron would help bring up your potential a bit and the PH cycles could help gauge tolerance (including psychological) and PCT and might yield enough results to where the desire to use the pinning stuff is gone (highly doubt that one), and he avoids any issues with the sheriff.

I thought the question was interesting enough to post here and it's been over a decade since I was up to speed in this realm and would love to hear thoughts from guys who are more current with today's supplements and PHs.

 

[gphagan1]

Hey guys, was talking to my old lifting partner recently. He’s thinking of using some PEDs of various sorts and asked if it would it be better or even make sense to progress from using lighter stuff like Formeron, then run a PH cycle and from there go to the stuff you got to pin? OR go straight to AAS? This is assuming diet, training, and dedication is dialed in.

My first thought was straight to pinning but he brought up some good points like seeing if supps like Formeron would help bring up your potential a bit and the PH cycles could help gauge tolerance (including psychological) and PCT and might yield enough results to where the desire to use the pinning stuff is gone (highly doubt that one), and he avoids any issues with the sheriff.

I thought the question was interesting enough to post here and it's been over a decade since I was up to speed in this realm and would love to hear thoughts from guys who are more current with today's supplements and PHs.

Not sure how old he is, but if he’s younger, say 20s to early 30s I would suggest for him to try some of the natural anabolic supplements first like Anabolic XT, PeptiBolic, Anabolic Effect and really a whole host of natural products from SNS and CEL before jumping on AAS, if he hasn’t tried them before. Squeeze all the juice out of his natural potential first. And then if he decides later he’s got the itch I would just go ahead and run Test only at 300 to 500 a week for 12 weeks and PCT. Starting with Test only allows you to see how you respond, and then allows you to decide if you want to add another compound on the next cycle as he progresses. That’s more bang for your buck than the cost vs results of a pro-hormone cycle.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Not sure how old he is, but if he’s younger, say 20s to early 30s I would suggest for him to try some of the natural anabolic supplements first like Anabolic XT, PeptiBolic, Anabolic Effect and really a whole host of natural products from SNS and CEL before jumping on AAS, if he hasn’t tried them before. Squeeze all the juice out of his natural potential first. And then if he decides later he’s got the itch I would just go ahead and run Test only at 300 to 500 a week for 12 weeks and PCT. Starting with Test only allows you to see how you respond, and then allows you to decide if you want to add another compound on the next cycle as he progresses. That’s more bang for your buck than the cost vs results of a pro-hormone cycle.

Agreed here. I've learned through seeing many cases/experiences. Best to try and increase test naturally through all avenues before making the leap and when you do make the leap better to go straight to something that's going to get you the results you're looking for.