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Primordial Performance AndroMass Cycle

Eh, with regards to suppression, HPGA and HPTA suppression are very independent of each other in most cases. I'd say that after you finish PCT (1 month) hopping on a mildly suppressive (at most) 3,3 thyroid compound (like alpha t2/shift) wouldn't be that insane. Even a 3,5 wouldn't be in the realm of crazy. The 3,5 only mildly suppresses your thyroid, not your nuts :D
 
ManBeast said:
Eh, with regards to suppression, HPGA and HPTA suppression are very independent of each other in most cases. I'd say that after you finish PCT (1 month) hopping on a mildly suppressive (at most) 3,3 thyroid compound (like alpha t2/shift) wouldn't be that insane. Even a 3,5 wouldn't be in the realm of crazy. The 3,5 only mildly suppresses your thyroid, not your nuts :D
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Hey I hear you, but I'm going on a limb already with the suppression of these phs, I'd rather have no further suppression of anything;) and OEP doesn't suppress correct?
 
correct on OEP, and understood, I'm not here to tell you what to do, only share what i do know :)
 
ManBeast said:
correct on OEP, and understood, I'm not here to tell you what to do, only share what i do know :)
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And I appriciate that:), thanks a ton for your help. As far as AM it should be here today or.monday:)
 
**** I'm 247 pounds at 6 ft. But I'm compact lol
 
ya need to update your profile brah :D
 
I know lmfao I went to rep someone and I looked at my pro I was like 217???? That wasn't that long ago lmfao my baby moms like uh I remember that... Are you ok? I was like hey I'm getting sympathy pains to. I'm just gaining weight differently Lmao
 
I gain weight fast even off cycle. I thought it was funny cuz my pro says I'm 217 and my goal is 230... Now I'm 247 and my goal is 270 :-) still deciding on my next bulk.
 
Airborne42 said:
I gain weight fast even off cycle. I thought it was funny cuz my pro says I'm 217 and my goal is 230... Now I'm 247 and my goal is 270 :-) still deciding on my next bulk.
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I'd be satisfied at 210 6% :) but then again you get there and never are.. Soooo....
 
Airborne42 said:
I gain weight fast even off cycle. I thought it was funny cuz my pro says I'm 217 and my goal is 230... Now I'm 247 and my goal is 270 :-) still deciding on my next bulk.
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Omg that's beast!! I want 220 @8%. Then when I get there I'll probably try for 250@8% lol.
 
Lol right? I'm a heavy weight ammy fighter as well. I'm hella compact for my weight it'd wierd
 
I can bench 400, squat 500, shoulder press like 280... I'm gettin there lol
 
Chicken nuggets and cell tech bro.. its pretty much steroids! Lmao jk
 
why EOD on it?
 
lol, you shouldn't have estro on cycle as your natural t will be down and sd doesn't aromatize to an estrogen. I'd say save it.
 
ManBeast said:
lol, you shouldn't have estro on cycle as your natural t will be down and sd doesn't aromatize to an estrogen. I'd say save it.
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Alllllrighty:) ill save it and should I possibly add another test boost to my pct to just blast back up? Currently it will just be erase tamox and daa, but I might consider adding
 
eh, you should be fine with those three, anything else during pct would be icing, no need to spend when ya don't have to right?
 
ManBeast said:
eh, you should be fine with those three, anything else during pct would be icing, no need to spend when ya don't have to right?
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I already have ecdy sterone and t911 chilling in my closet:D
 
i've never heard amazing things about ecdy, but the t911 wouldn't hurt, i'm using endosurge in my upcomming cycle's pct
 
I figured as much,.for the record what do the massv3 softgels look like? So I know its not fake when I get it..

I'm wondering this as well, could I run 2 bottles of T911 back to back, one during pct and one following?

Sorry I keep adding questions to this list, their starting to just pop out at me:D After this cycle is said and done as I go into my cut could I add in Perform to my current cutting stack of T911 and OEP?
 
ManBeast said:
eh, you should be fine with those three, anything else during pct would be icing, no need to spend when ya don't have to right?
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Do you think it would be beneficial to add something like stinging nettle root to pcts that use torem since torem increases shbg
 
bigdavid said:
Do you think it would be beneficial to add something like stinging nettle root to pcts that use torem since torem increases shbg
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I've read some say the the shbg increase is actually one of the mechanisms SERMs use to raise test. All theory though.
 
mattrag said:
I've read some say the the shbg increase is actually one of the mechanisms SERMs use to raise test. All theory though.
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yeah I never thought of that good point. Just like lowering shbg can decrease total test I guess the opposite can be true. I thought clomid was neutral in terms of shbg, though? Or do they all increase it?
 
bigdavid said:
yeah I never thought of that good point. Just like lowering shbg can decrease total test I guess the opposite can be true. I thought clomid was neutral in terms of shbg, though? Or do they all increase it?
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Hmm. That is a good question. More research is needed. :)
 
I figured as much,.for the record what do the massv3 softgels look like? So I know its not fake when I get it..

I'm wondering this as well, could I run 2 bottles of T911 back to back, one during pct and one following?

Sorry I keep adding questions to this list, their starting to just pop out at me:D After this cycle is said and done as I go into my cut could I add in Perform to my current cutting stack of T911 and OEP?
 
Not sure on what the Mass caps look like, I should have mine in today though so I'll keep you updated if they show up and you haven't heard yet.

I don't see why you couldn't run two bottles t-911 back to back, and then add perform into that stack.
 
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