Hey man, not sure if this helps but I guess there was (is?) a DS/PH that was apparently comparable to Anavar and/or Primobolan. It was called M4OHN. I guess it's banned now, so I dont think we're really supposed to 'promote' it's use now.
Anyway, I say I guess because this is just what I read. You don't read much on Primo that I've seen, so ur question made me curious and I just looked around a tad.
Cheers.