Primeval Labs - Primabol, is it worth it?

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I have never tried Phosphatidic Acid before, saw this came out recently, very expensive.
Is it worth it? anyone have any experience with PA, not the cheap fakes etc.
 
I have tried EPIQ PA for 8 weeks. bit of strength gain (could be placebo since I was bulking) and muscle fullness. I may be a non responder as well. But, at that cost, definitely NO
 
Not worth it at that price. Holdout for Build by Outbreak Nutrition which has PA as well as laxo and Ursolic acid
 
soxbsbll05 said:
Not worth it at that price. Holdout for Build by Outbreak Nutrition which has PA as well as laxo and Ursolic acid
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Thanks wasn't sure that the label been released yet, Invalid Link Removed
Looks very interesting.
 
fearns lists the phosphtidic acid content, so as long as you eat enough to match the study levels - it's the same thing. and as long as you account for the energy and macros - its actual food, a good source of choline, and the fat is of the "healthy" type. seems a no brainer - a couple tabelspoons in a bag can be taken anywhere. if it does anything is still up in the air - there are 4(?) studies on it - 3 sponsored and one not. the sponsored ones (cheminutra) all found benefit, the unsponsored one found no benefit. if you want to condense your reading, read the one sponsored one that included darren willoughby, and the one unsponsored one. the willoughby study (he wasn't the lead, so read all the names) was really fair with a lot of caveats to consider. i'd look at how much phosphatidic acid you want to take, and figure out how much 1 month of dosing fearns would cost - then compare to the concentrated bottled supps and make a decision.
 
soxbsbll05 said:
It has the Mediator PA in it now? I ran two bottles of this already at 8 caps/day without the Mediator PA and did not notice much...
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It's always had Mediator PA but they doubled the dosage dosage, they told me that there was miscommunication between the company that makes mediator, them, and the manufacturer which screwed up the dosing.

I think what it is, is that mediator is 50% PA, which means 750 mg of PA. I think due to the miscommunication they originally only put 750 mediator, now its fixed.

We have carried assault labs for like 6 years and they never underdose their products, so the story makes sense.
 
musclemaker said:
It's always had Mediator PA but they doubled the dosage dosage, they told me that there was miscommunication between the company that makes mediator, them, and the manufacturer which screwed up the dosing.

I think what it is, is that mediator is 50% PA, which means 750 mg of PA. I think due to the miscommunication they originally only put 750 mediator, now its fixed.

We have carried assault labs for like 6 years and they never underdose their products, so the story makes sense.
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So are you saying they doubled the actual DOSE or just corrected the amount showed on the LABEL?
 
musclemaker said:
It's always had Mediator PA but they doubled the dosage dosage, they told me that there was miscommunication between the company that makes mediator, them, and the manufacturer which screwed up the dosing.

I think what it is, is that mediator is 50% PA, which means 750 mg of PA. I think due to the miscommunication they originally only put 750 mediator, now its fixed.

We have carried assault labs for like 6 years and they never underdose their products, so the story makes sense.
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Shouldn't this be an issue for those of us that bought it underdosed the first time around? A little disconcerting
 
ironkill said:
Def feel ripped off. Will avoid this brand moving forward
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Same here, was one the first to buy, still not opened. Company not well known to me, would not trust the ingredients are all there, did not see any results from first batch of people who reviewed it..
 
00A said:
Same here, was one the first to buy, still not opened. Company not well known to me, would not trust the ingredients are all there, did not see any results from first batch of people who reviewed it..
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Just providing the updates bud, I don't make the product but we have sold their stuff for ages.
 
I actually think that SL works because of the other constituants in it. Dr. Darren Willoughby talks about PA showing promise in rats but probably being bunk in humans on an older Ben Pakulski podcast.
 
Just out of curiosity has anyone tried taking soy lecithin granules WITH mediator PA caps? I ask because soy lecithin granules are so cheap and with PA I believe it’s ok to take higher doses
 
All outbreaks **** is underdosed! Trust me on this! They look fancy but underdosed not just this product
 
00A said:
All outbreaks **** is underdosed! Trust me on this! They look fancy but underdosed not just this product
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I didn’t realize 300mg vaso6 was the standard until I looked at more products with vaso6 after buying serum.
 
soxbsbll05 said:
Not worth it at that price. Holdout for Build by Outbreak Nutrition which has PA as well as laxo and Ursolic acid
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Looking at build on amazo n right now, its 60 bucks for only 20 servings (not even a full month obviously) so what’s up with that?!
 
PA was great in the OG cutler king supp

I had good results from it, nothing spectacular but still noticeable

PA kinda seems to have taken a back seat to laxo and epi in recent times
 
00A said:
Anyone used primabol on the the forums - I cant seem to find a review?
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Personally, I wouldn’t invest in phosphatidic acid supplements. First of all, the stuff is expensive as hell. But I don’t think it’ll provide much in the way of results. There is research showing an increase in mTOR signaling, however I do recall reading that co-ingestion with a dose of protein actually decreased the total mTOR signal. If you take protein or amino supplements, I doubt PA will really give any benefit.
 
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