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Eric, I have alot of trouble developing my lower outer chest. I have looked online and done everything I can find. Do you have any advice on this that could help me out? My father was also a avid bodybuilder back in the day and he had this problem as well.

I am 24, 12-13% bf, 176lbs at the moment. Been training for 3years. I started out weighing 145 and around 15% bf


This spring I will be try to cut down as much bf as possible so I feel that will help some. This is the first trimming down I've ever really done.
 
I have a question for you my man. When I do incline (doesn't matter if it's bb or db) it hurts in my front dellts. Would it be bad form? I've watched myself in the mirror and everything looks good but it happens every time. I do incline after flat bench so I would assume they should be warmed up.
 
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Eric, I have alot of trouble developing my lower outer chest. I have looked online and done everything I can find. Do you have any advice on this that could help me out? My father was also a avid bodybuilder back in the day and he had this problem as well.

I am 24, 12-13% bf, 176lbs at the moment. Been training for 3years. I started out weighing 145 and around 15% bf

This spring I will be try to cut down as much bf as possible so I feel that will help some. This is the first trimming down I've ever really done.

Wide dips with elbows out, partial reps of those will stretch the lower and outer pec real nice
 
I believe you! I've come a long way since starting 5 years ago, when I first started I weighed like 115-120.

Thanks for all the help, hopefully I can make some good progress in 2013.

I started at 5'11" and 120 lbs. Eventually hit 273 at same height. This was done drug free. Its all about doing work!
 
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I was wondering about the inside of the chest (the area from the bottom of your neck to where the sternum is) or the bottom shelf of the chest..

What works those two areas as they seem to be really tough to hit and i feel like i need work on those areas
 
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I was wondering about the inside of the chest (the area from the bottom of your neck to where the sternum is) or the bottom shelf of the chest..

What works those two areas as they seem to be really tough to hit and i feel like i need work on those areas

High incline presses and flies as well as high to low cross overs.
 
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Eric, I have alot of trouble developing my lower outer chest. I have looked online and done everything I can find. Do you have any advice on this that could help me out? My father was also a avid bodybuilder back in the day and he had this problem as well.

I am 24, 12-13% bf, 176lbs at the moment. Been training for 3years. I started out weighing 145 and around 15% bf


This spring I will be try to cut down as much bf as possible so I feel that will help some. This is the first trimming down I've ever really done.

The leaner you get, the better you will see that nice lower/outer pec line - that is for sure.

The number one exercise for this area is dips. This will nail that spot. Next would be decline flyes. These two make for a nice superset that will just "light up" the lower/outer pecs!
 
I have a question for you my man. When I do incline (doesn't matter if it's bb or db) it hurts in my front dellts. Would it be bad form? I've watched myself in the mirror and everything looks good but it happens every time. I do incline after flat bench so I would assume they should be warmed up.

I would have to see your form to know if something was off. Are you properly positioning your torso on these?

*slight arch in low back
*shoulders shrugged down and back
*ribcage held high
 
I was wondering about the inside of the chest (the area from the bottom of your neck to where the sternum is) or the bottom shelf of the chest..

What works those two areas as they seem to be really tough to hit and i feel like i need work on those areas

We must remember that it is impossible to TRULY isolate any one part of a complex muscle since it will contact as a WHOLE no matter what. However, it is my belief that we can "target" specific areas of a muscle somewhat through proper angles, grips, and planes of motion. Top affect motor units in the area of the chest you are asking about your best bets would be:

-low cable crossovers
-seated flye machine with elbows held in line with shoulders/upper pecs
-narrow grip incline presses
-narrow grip smith press to neck

I find that in these cases that supersets are the most effective technique - both pre-exhaust and post-activation.
 
We must remember that it is impossible to TRULY isolate any one part of a complex muscle since it will contact as a WHOLE no matter what. However, it is my belief that we can "target" specific areas of a muscle somewhat through proper angles, grips, and planes of motion. Top affect motor units in the area of the chest you are asking about your best bets would be:

-low cable crossovers
-seated flye machine with elbows held in line with shoulders/upper pecs
-narrow grip incline presses
-narrow grip smith press to neck

I find that in these cases that supersets are the most effective technique - both pre-exhaust and post-activation.

thank you coach ill give these a try out!!
 
The leaner you get, the better you will see that nice lower/outer pec line - that is for sure.

The number one exercise for this area is dips. This will nail that spot. Next would be decline flyes. These two make for a nice superset that will just "light up" the lower/outer pecs!

Thanks man
 
My pleasure to help gentlemen!
 
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A. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean my friend! No matter how much I have improved my own shoulders over the years I am still fighting at every workout to make my delts look like the “melons” on guys like Dennis Wolf, Kevin Levrone and Phil Heath! I am glad you asked this question, however, because it brings to light the saying: “If you keep doing the same exact things over and over expecting a different result you must be crazy!” Luckily, this is something I figured out pretty early on in my career, but I am continually amazed by how many trainees are willing to keep pounding away on the same exercises week after week, month after month, with little to no results to speak of (or look at). Of course the standard DB, cable and machine side laterals that you have been doing work extremely well at building the side head of the delts for many, but you have recognized that in your case they are not getting the job done (kudos to you). With that said, before I give you a few new movements to sink your teeth into, I must point out that there may be other areas in your overall program that could also be responsible for holding back your gains. First, make sure your nutrition and supplementation are on point and that you are getting adequate rest. Also, check your form. Are you performing laterals correctly and in a way that truly targets the lateral deltoid? I have witnessed some extremely poor execution in my time; with so much swinging involved (to try and move heavier weight of course) that it is the lower back that takes a beating and not the shoulders! In addition, you can also try training shoulders on their own day, switching up rep schemes, lifting tempos, intensity techniques and more.

Ok, now that my little speech is done, here are a few novel ways you can attack your lateral delts:

1. Very Wide Grip BB Upright Rows: When most people perform upright rows they so with a narrow grip and bring their hands up to about mouth level, which rather effectively stimulates the mid-traps and front delts. However, if the grip is made very wide, meaning a little wider than the shoulders, and the bar is brought no higher than the level of the upper chest, this will strongly target the lateral delt heads.

2. Leaning Single Arm DB or Cable Side Laterals: This is not so much a unique exercise as a different method of executing it that will change the resistance curve and thus stimulate somewhat different motor unit pools. The idea here is to grab a single DB or low cable with one hand, and with the other to grasp some type of sturdy support. Position your feet close to the support so that when you allow your non-working arm to straighten, you will be “leaning away” at a significant angle. Performing a side lateral from this position will increase the resistance at the top of the strength curve and force a deeper contraction than basic laterals.

3. Incline DB Side Laterals: This is another unique form of side lateral that in a way is the opposite of the one right above. Again, you will be altering the resistance curve of the exercise, however, now there will be greater force needed to get the DB moving at the beginning of the movement. The result – a different stress for your CNS and the ability to exhaust even more motor unit pools. To perform this exercise set an incline bench at about 45 degrees. Grab a light DB (yes, I said light, as in 15-20 lbs) and lay down sideways on the bench. Keep the working arm almost completely straight and never let the DB come in contact with your body – think constant tension! Raise the weight slowly until your arm is at a 90 degree angle to your torso, and then fight the DB hard on the way down. Stop when you are about two inches from contacting the side of your thigh/hip.

Note: An awesome superset that will totally trash your side delts is exercise #3 to failure, followed immediately by exercise #2 to failure (about 10 reps on each).
 
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How does this look , from my vanillean log.

Then Thursday, I will do 10x5 for chest and do standard body building sets/reps for shoulders/tri's

Back, bis follows same principal.. Deads on leg day (wed) for 10x5 principal..



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How does this look , from my vanillean log.

Then Thursday, I will do 10x5 for chest and do standard body building sets/reps for shoulders/tri's

Back, bis follows same principal.. Deads on leg day (wed) for 10x5 principal..



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Looks solid bro. Is your major goal strength or hypertrophy - or even levels of both?
 
Looks solid bro. Is your major goal strength or hypertrophy - or even levels of both?

Equal both.. I've never focused on my strength in all honesty (aside from when I played football in hs/college) but that strength is all but gone..

Now that I'm not afraid of getting big/fat (bc I understand nutrition finally) I am confident that over time with proper training and nutrition I can get bigger and stronger. I know it's a marathon not a sprint for natural gains.

I hit a PR today on this program - incline db press 70'sx4.. The 5x5 has really helped increase my strength. You don't think Thst looks like too much for ome day? With cardio it was a 2 hour exactly workout. Tues/thurs is no cardio, and Friday is prowler. Those sessions are usually 1-1.5 hours .. Weekends off. My only issue is I over train easily. My enodrcrine system is shot due to supplement abuse in the past and anorexia as a late teen with a 100 pound weight loss
 
Equal both.. I've never focused on my strength in all honesty (aside from when I played football in hs/college) but that strength is all but gone..

Now that I'm not afraid of getting big/fat (bc I understand nutrition finally) I am confident that over time with proper training and nutrition I can get bigger and stronger. I know it's a marathon not a sprint for natural gains.

I hit a PR today on this program - incline db press 70'sx4.. The 5x5 has really helped increase my strength. You don't think Thst looks like too much for ome day? With cardio it was a 2 hour exactly workout. Tues/thurs is no cardio, and Friday is prowler. Those sessions are usually 1-1.5 hours .. Weekends off. My only issue is I over train easily. My enodrcrine system is shot due to supplement abuse in the past and anorexia as a late teen with a 100 pound weight loss

Overtraining only occurs when nutrition, supplementation, rest does not match the program. Training for 2 hours is ok if you are doing what it takes to recover from the punishment. Everyone must be realistic and smart about what they do IN the gym vs. what they do OUT of the gym.
 
Overtraining only occurs when nutrition, supplementation, rest does not match the program. Training for 2 hours is ok if you are doing what it takes to recover from the punishment. Everyone must be realistic and smart about what they do IN the gym vs. what they do OUT of the gym.

I agree and understand that statement 100%.

I think my biggest problem is realizing HOW MUCH I need to eat... Thanks for the info and opinion/advice
 
I agree and understand that statement 100%.

I think my biggest problem is realizing HOW MUCH I need to eat... Thanks for the info and opinion/advice

Always think macronutrients instead of calories...how much protein, carbs and fats do I need? The calories will take care of themselves!
 
Always think macronutrients instead of calories...how much protein, carbs and fats do I need? The calories will take care of themselves!

It's so hard getting quality protein as a college student haha. I still live at home- I get yelled at for eatin all the eggs so quickly. I go through a ton of chicken, tuna, and salmon every week but I think I really need like double what I'm getting! I buy most of my own groceries and I cook with olive oil always. I also buy no salt added turkey, boars head and lite Swiss for my sandwiches on organic wheat
 
It's so hard getting quality protein as a college student haha. I still live at home- I get yelled at for eatin all the eggs so quickly. I go through a ton of chicken, tuna, and salmon every week but I think I really need like double what I'm getting! I buy most of my own groceries and I cook with olive oil always. I also buy no salt added turkey, boars head and lite Swiss for my sandwiches on organic wheat

Well, it sounds like you are doing all of the right things. IF you feel you cannot get quite enough food you MAY want to cut back in training volume a bit to compensate.
 
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