Pre-workout

Neither?

Having tried both I would choose Nitraflex between the two. However, if you are open to other options CONQU3R provides massive doses of citrulline malate(6g), high yield glycerol(2g) and agmatine(1g) providing massive pumps as well as COP for significant contributions to endurance. There is also a very thorough focus intensifying matrix and it is available in stim and non-stim to be a great all in one option.
 
I would say bsn noxplode between those two.

But if your not set in stone on those two check out our top five at StrongSupplemenShop
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We would have to recommend something different than the two you are asking about. I would say Conquer Demigod, Momentum Nutrition's Catalyst, or Legions Pulse. Just overall better ingredient profiles.
 
I would recommend Hyde, RagNOrok Ultra, Stimul8, HyperMax, Psyched, NitroNOX Elite, Nitramine and not necessarily in that order.
 
Between those two I'd have to say Nitraflex. Much more gentle on the stomach and colon. If it was me, I'd try LGI Fully Loaded Amplified, or Myokem's Nitramine
 
No. I'm not set on choosing one or the other. A lot of guys at the gym take GAT or BSN. I've tried quite a few and wasn't pleased with any except the original Jack3d of 6 years ago.
 
sarno75 said:
No. I'm not set on choosing one or the other. A lot of guys at the gym take GAT or BSN. I've tried quite a few and wasn't pleased with any except the original Jack3d of 6 years ago.
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what characteristics are you looking for? Energy? Pump?
 
sarno75 said:
No. I'm not set on choosing one or the other. A lot of guys at the gym take GAT or BSN. I've tried quite a few and wasn't pleased with any except the original Jack3d of 6 years ago.
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I have a high stim tolerance and if you want a great stim based pre, I suggest you take a look at.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/236087-stimul8-40-servings.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/249588-hypermax-40-servings.html


Also I just tried Get Diesel's JP8X Hardcore today and am very impressed.The energy and focus is great.Here's a couple logs to check out

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/263382-ae-royalty-diesels.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/264235-get-diesel-jp8.html
 
Lotta good options out there OP, let us know what you're looking for out of a pre and you'll get plenty of on point recommendations.
 
koi1214 said:
I have a high stim tolerance and if you want a great stim based pre, I suggest you take a look at.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/236087-stimul8-40-servings.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/249588-hypermax-40-servings.html


Also I just tried Get Diesel's JP8X Hardcore today and am very impressed.The energy and focus is great.Here's a couple logs to check out

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/263382-ae-royalty-diesels.html
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/264235-get-diesel-jp8.html
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HyperMax is a great product. The energy blend allows for a nice flow of energy without a crash after training. It also allows for a great increase in focus.The Choline Bitritrate allows for better energy and better mood. You may observe an overall better sense of well being.

Also, a single scoop provides 1 gram of GMS and 500 mg of Agmatine Sulfate both which will help with a pump. HyperMax is more geared towards energy and a high stim PWO, but also provides enough ingredients in a single scoop to experience better pumps and blood flow.

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sarno75 said:
Looking for that pump. Where your veins look like to explode out from your skin.
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For the stim route HyperMax will definitely provide that with 1g of GMS and 500 mg of Agmatine. At two scoops, that is 2g and 1g!

For a non stim route, Hemavol, High Volume, and Body Octane are great choices.
 
Thanks guys. Usually get all my supps from DPS but they don't carry Hypermax. Recommendations on where to purchase.
 
sarno75 said:
Thanks guys. Usually get all my supps from DPS but they don't carry Hypermax. Recommendations on where to purchase.
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2nd nutraplanet. Great service, fast shipping and awesome deals
 
I used Perseverance by Mind Warrior today and have to say it's pretty powerful at 2 capsules. Energy, stamina, focus and sweat all strong today. Very strong stimulant at 560mg of caffeine:) . No shakes or crash either. Lasted about 3 hours.
 
MARK_ said:
I used Perseverance by Mind Warrior today and have to say it's pretty powerful at 2 capsules. Energy, stamina, focus and sweat all strong today. Very strong stimulant at 560mg of caffeine:) . No shakes or crash either. Lasted about 3 hours.
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Sonovabich that's a lot of caffeine!
 
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