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PP & blood sugar

julius kelp

julius kelp

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anybody else been through this? went to local restaurant for early lunch (1st meal!!! (BAD) slept in some (good)) anyhow, while waiting for a table (15mins) i started to have a bad feeling, was seeing kind of nasty "afterglows" in my vision, it wasn't getting better, anxiety started building. FINALLY. we got a table, it wasn't getting any better, i could barely read the menu. i started to think i might have accidentally took (2) PP? (don't think so) remembered how the sdrol used to cause head spins & nausea & such we thought due to sugar literally getting sucked out of the blood. grabbed a sugar packet & dumped it in my tea. (people would have thought i was nuts if i just started downing them...) after a minute or two, it began to subside. damn i was relieved, i thought i was having a stroke or something for a minute.
 
Yeah, it happened to me on pheraplex and superdrol. I always carry around candy with me like a diabetic when I'm on either of these. It seems I remember superdrol being really bad about that. It's kinda scary but as long as you recognize the signs of hypoglycemia early enough, it just serves as a reminder that I should be eating more anyway if I'm bulking.
 
So what happens to you if you let the feeling go too long? Will you eventually pass out? I've always been curious about this because I get this feeling quite a bit on low carb days while cutting.
 
Really have not had any problems with phera-plex, but I notice Superdrol bring the blood sugar down. What I can not handle is more than 10 mgs of superdrol along with Oratrophin. Ended up waking myself up every 2 hours in the night to eat. I do hypoglycemia tendency and eat 5 to 6 meals a day instead of 3. My doctor has warned me to eat first thing in morning and not go more than about 5 hours without eating. Casien protein will help with its 8 hour release. You really should be trying to get some protien in you first thing in the morning because your protien levels also drive over the night along with some carbs.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
So what happens to you if you let the feeling go too long? Will you eventually pass out? I've always been curious about this because I get this feeling quite a bit on low carb days while cutting.
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Worst case is actually death. Your body will try to burn muscles to keep you going. Burning muscle is bad for the heart. Are you getting the shakes?

yes, you can pass out. This usually refered to as a diabetic coma.

I recommend all of you to consult your doctor. You all sound worst than me. See what your blood sugar is really doing. This is not something you want ignore.
 
Happens to me on low carb days when I do lots of cardio and hard workouts, my body just depletes its glycogen storages I'm assuming since I hardly eat any carbs on those days, and then starts running on something else, and I get a little light headed and weak. I've never actually passed out though.
 
I read that if glycogen stores are used up,as say in fasting,your body starts going into something called ketosis,whereby that "something else" your body runs on are ketones.I'm not a biochemist so don't ask me what ketones are,but has something to do with fatty acids as a fuel.
 
FYI777 said:
I read that if glycogen stores are used up,as say in fasting,your body starts going into something called ketosis,whereby that "something else" your body runs on are ketones.I'm not a biochemist so don't ask me what ketones are,but has something to do with fatty acids as a fuel.
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You're right. When deprived of sufficient CHO (the body stores about 3000 kcals worth of CHO between liver and muscle glycogen), the body runs into a few issues:
For one, the CNS, Erythrocytes (red blood cells), etc can only run on carbs. This is kind of why you have that mental fog on low carb diets.

What the body will do in this case rather than just breaking down muscle tissue (deaminating amino acids to form glucose or glycerol... aka gluconeogenisis) is enter a stage called ketoacidosis. Basically there is an increase in fat oxidation and the body will use ketones (remnants of fatty acid oxidation) where CHO's would normally be used.
Now this is not so rosy...it's harsh on your organs, particularly liver and kidneys b/c it will lower the pH of your blood (which I believe is normally somewhat alkaline). So it's bad b/c your body now needs to do extra work to filter out this crap. It's also responsible for that ketone breath (sweet, acrid smelling).

So yes, the body can survive for awhile without carbs but it's not optimal. In fact lowering CHO intake below a certain level will slow down the Krebs cycle b/c you need the substrates of CHO oxidation to fuel it (hence the phrase "Fat burns in a Carbohydrate fire")

~Powda
 
And by the way I suffered from sever lightheadness when working out and anxiety attackes when using 20mg ED of PP. But I was also working 80 hours a week physically...
 
you guys need to eat more often. I pig out on sd and gain weight while leaning up. I'm always tired but I just sleep more. SD is my fav. I'm on pp now.
 
Actually I beg to differ,I have not heard of somebody actually passing out from hypoglycemia brought about through diet alone.On the other hand,if one was using too much insulin then yes I could go into a coma,known as you said diabetic coma.But that's using exogenous insulin whereby you could raise levels far beyond what your pancreas could produce naturally.

There are people who fast for weeks on only water and I have never heard of anyone passing out cold.Super weak maybe but no coma.

Also,yes you could starve yourself to death.
 
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