PowerFull with ActivaTe?

Kiwi

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I've just ordered 3 bottles of PowerFull, which I intend to stack with ActivaTe. Is there any real world risk of boosting estrogen too high with this stack given that I'm not taking any specific estrogen reducing supplement?

That said however, I don't actually understand by what mechanism PowerFull works - is it a direct test booster, or does it work indirectly by inhibiting estrogen?

Also I believe that I read somewhere that the dosing recommendations for PowerFull had changed quite recently following the release of a new batch. Could someone help me out with the latest dosing recommendation for a 200lb guy training with weights 4 days per week?

Many thanks. I'm looking forward to trying out this supplement!
 
Have you used Activate without an estrogen reducer before?

My reaction to activate stand alone was a serious estrogen swing. had me very emotional over the stupidest stuff.

maybe someone from usp can chime in on powerful, but if it doesnt have any estrogen reducing properties I would
keep ATD, or 6oxo on hand just incase.
 
I have some concerns about using Rebound XT given the negative sides. Could the negative sides be reduced by using a low 1 or 2 caps per day dosage of Rebound XT? Alternatively how about AX PCT (formerly ALRI ultra hotter).

Please chime in if you have stacked PowerFull and ActivaTe together without an estrogen reducer. I’m interested to know what results you had – both the good, and whether excess estrogen was an issue or not.
 
I've taken both but not together.

Supersoldier showed that P'full had caused an increase in total test. I feel that is true.

I think Activate and P'full together is overkill. In my mind and experience, they are similar products. Both give hella good workouts and strength increases.
But, P'full give a bigger bang for the same buck (both are similarly priced) - so I recommend P'full.

I think P'full and Rebound Reloaded would be da bomb!
I'm hoping to run this during my upcoming PCT (if DS will get off their asses and put Reloaded out....)
 
Please chime in if you have stacked PowerFull and ActivaTe together without an estrogen reducer. I’m interested to know what results you had – both the good, and whether excess estrogen was an issue or not.
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I havent run Activate/ATD yet but I did run Rebound stacked with PowerFULL & a few other USP products. Check the logs in my sig, it was very effective. PowerFULL always seems to give me very mild e-related sides (slightly puffy nipples), so I ran the ATD initially to lock that down but the addition of the anti-e really kicked the experience up another level.

50mg of Rebound seems to kill my libido, 25mg works fine with little in the way of sides. I remember when it UltraHOT came out, ALRI mentioned that if 50mg gave you sides, you were overly sensitive to ATD and should stay with 25mg.

BV
 
I'm planning to use Powerfull w/ activate and a few other supps.

However, I will say that I used ActivaTe at 1.5 the recommended dosage without the need of an estrogen reducer.

I think that some individuals are more sensitive than others and that's what causes gyno flare ups....IMO, its not imperative that you use Rebound, ATD, etc when using a test booster.
 
jmh80 said:
I've taken both but not together.

Supersoldier showed that P'full had caused an increase in total test. I feel that is true.

I think Activate and P'full together is overkill. In my mind and experience, they are similar products. Both give hella good workouts and strength increases.
But, P'full give a bigger bang for the same buck (both are similarly priced) - so I recommend P'full.

I think P'full and Rebound Reloaded would be da bomb!
I'm hoping to run this during my upcoming PCT (if DS will get off their asses and put Reloaded out....)
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I think that PowerFull and ActivaTe work in different ways that could be complementary. PowerFull increases total testosterone and ActivaTe increases free testosterone by reducing SHBG. So wouldn't this be a good reason to stack the two together?
 
Kiwi said:
I think that PowerFull and ActivaTe work in different ways that could be complementary. PowerFull increases total testosterone and ActivaTe increases free testosterone by reducing SHBG. So wouldn't this be a good reason to stack the two together?
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That's what I figured as well.

I assume provided that PowerFull and ActivaTe work through different methods hormonally, then stacking them should be fine.

However, if stacking them is as effective as increasing the dose of one or the other, then it may be a waste of money and may yield diminished results both LBM-wise and strength wise.

Can anyone provide evidence on this one way or another?
 
Kiwi said:
I think that PowerFull and ActivaTe work in different ways that could be complementary. PowerFull increases total testosterone and ActivaTe increases free testosterone by reducing SHBG. So wouldn't this be a good reason to stack the two together?
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Yea, jmh80, I agree with alot of your posts, but this isn't one of them. ActivaTe works by increasing Free Test, and Powerfull works by increasing overall Test levels. They -should- stack together very well.

To the OP, I'd recommend running them together with a low dose of ATD such as 25mg. This should help you avoid some of the sides, while keeping your estrogen under control.
 
Ok, ok, ok.

You guys are right - in theory.

I'm just saying that in my experience as I've tested the beta Activate twice and 2 bottles of Powerfull (back to back) they provided very similar effects.
But, that Powerfull was better.

Now, you can surely take my advice and experience with a grain of salt.
I'm just trying to look out for everyone else's pocketbooks.


Something else to think about (and search) is that there have been studies posted on here that the free testosterone liberated is metabolized within a very short period of time (like 30 mins). I think Bobo posted them...but I could be wrong.
 
jmh80 said:
Ok, ok, ok.

You guys are right - in theory.

I'm just saying that in my experience as I've tested the beta Activate twice and 2 bottles of Powerfull (back to back) they provided very similar effects.
But, that Powerfull was better.

Now, you can surely take my advice and experience with a grain of salt.
I'm just trying to look out for everyone else's pocketbooks.


Something else to think about (and search) is that there have been studies posted on here that the free testosterone liberated is metabolized within a very short period of time (like 30 mins). I think Bobo posted them...but I could be wrong.
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I feel you on the cost thing. I still have 3 more bottles of the ActivaTe Beta that I bought 3 months ago...so that's why cost really wasnt an issue for me.

Off topic: Did you go to the U?
 
I grew up down there. Really, really, really wanted to go there but they don't have chemical engineering.

I was dead set on that and it was more important than going to The U.
 
jmh80 said:
I grew up down there. Really, really, really wanted to go there but they don't have chemical engineering.

I was dead set on that and it was more important than going to The U.
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Ahh..I'm from Orlando..I have always loved UM..despite the bad times.

I wanted to go there as well, but I couldnt afford 26k a year even with financial aid.
 
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