Potent Testosterone Booster

Shredz69 said:
When did I say "nothing is working "?
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You literally said "been there done that" implying that none of the proven natty boosters recommended here is working for you. Maybe stop searching for the majic supp and instead implement an intelligent training program.
 
Bigbri01 said:
You literally said "been there done that" implying that none of the proven natty boosters recommended here is working for you. Maybe stop searching for the majic supp and instead implement an intelligent training program.
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"Been there done that" in reference to a single product is not at all saying "nothing is working". Over the years I've taken a number of supplements that worked great and I wouldn't hesitate to take again. I'm simply not a fan of 'm-test'. As far as training programs, I'm a disciple of Mark Rippetoe, and it doesn't get better than that.
 
Mark Rippetoe is the man!

Your t levels are great for any age so not sure what you're expecting if you want to stay natural. Nothing natural seems to be that great. I liked AlphaDefy for overall performance benefits if you want to try something unique, I recommend that. Olympus Labs AlphaDefy.
 
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Shadowblaze said:
Well what your kinda saying makes me believe this is a troll post, but I could be wrong. I don't know what you mean by "cutting edge" test booster, there is no natty test booster that will give you steroid like results if that's what your looking for. I guess by "cutting edge" you mean with the newest and most effective ingredients. Arimahex by Apex alchemy is about as "cutting edge" as it gets, its an aromatase inhibitor so it won't supress but its also not natural, you should get very good results from it and it might be what your looking for, someone above linked a priceplow link with a test booster that's pretty knew to my knowledge and has some interesting ingredients, if you want you can give it a try but I'm telling you right now it probably won't be nearly as effective as ones by Apex alchemy, sns, cel, etc. A lot of the new flashy test boosters are just scams, be careful.
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Do you know how much 6-oxo is in 1ml of arimahex? I can't remember if it's 100mg or 50 mg. Thanks
 
cronikgains said:
Mark Rippetoe is the man!

Your t levels are great for any age so not sure what you're expecting if you want to stay natural. Nothing natural seems to be that great. I liked AlphaDefy for overall performance
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AlphaDefy IS NOT a Testosterone Booster.
 
Shredz69 said:
Actually I'm quite big and ripped. This next testosterone booster is just a finishing touch.
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You say you are "quite big & ripped" plus your test level is 680 which for a middle aged man is pretty good. But you are looking to better yourself, naturally asking for "cutting edge" supplements. Ok, nothing wrong with that. I assume you DO realize that each of us has a genetic limit we can reach naturally. So maybe you asking for natty solutions to take you to unnatural levels is a bit . . . unrealistic? There is no secret magic botanical pill out there that will raise your test levels to 1500 & win you the Mr.O bro. Stop looking. Try what's out there & see what results you get. I'd also give Alpha Male by Revange / Core-X Labs a shot.
 
I'm a 50 yr old who used MTest before cycles, between, and after. I will continue to use it. Great product.
If you want something more potent, go with a pharmaceutical.
 
bigdadybry said:
used MTest before cycles, between, and after. I will continue to use it. Great product.
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Agreed here! Definitely one of my favorite natty test boosters on the market.
 
Rather than buying one of these prepared test boosting products, I would suggest purchasing the tried-and-true basics and consuming them in higher amounts than you will get from these and at much lower cost:
  • Tongkat ali (Nootropic Depot)
  • Butea superba
  • Boron 10 mg daily
  • Orchic extract (Swansons)
  • ZMA every night before bed
 
Lumalux said:
Rather than buying one of these prepared test boosting products, I would suggest purchasing the tried-and-true basics and consuming them in higher amounts than you will get from these and at much lower cost:
  • Tongkat ali (Nootropic Depot)
  • Butea superba
  • Boron 10 mg daily
  • Orchic extract (Swansons)
  • ZMA every night before bed
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ND tongkat ali is one of the best testosterone boosting supplements ever and has so many other benefits like immune health. I like to take the 10% Eurycomanone and 2% Eurycomanone broad spectrum one together (100mg each)

What does orchic extract do? You said its a "tried and true" test booster but I can't find any evidence about that online.
 
Shadowblaze said:
ND tongkat ali is one of the best testosterone boosting supplements ever and has so many other benefits like immune health. I like to take the 10% Eurycomanone and 2% Eurycomanone broad spectrum one together (100mg each)

What does orchic extract do? You said its a "tried and true" test booster but I can't find any evidence about that online.
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I have yet to find research that concludes that bovine orchic extract raises testosterone and/or DHT. Studies are very scant. It used to be very popular in bodybuilding circles, long before internet discussion boards. I've used it many times, and it has had the most profound impact on my sex drive than anything else I have taken. I've never had my blood labs taken before and after using it, so my conclusions about it likely raising testosterone are purely anecdotal. But I am firmly convinced it is having a positive impact on my T levels. I have experienced the hallmarks of higher T and DHT while using it.
 
Lumalux said:
I have yet to find research that concludes that bovine orchic extract raises testosterone and/or DHT. Studies are very scant. It used to be very popular in bodybuilding circles, long before internet discussion boards. I've used it many times, and it has had the most profound impact on my sex drive than anything else I have taken. I've never had my blood labs taken before and after using it, so my conclusions about it likely raising testosterone are purely anecdotal. But I am firmly convinced it is having a positive impact on my T levels. I have experienced the hallmarks of higher T and DHT while using it.
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Thanks for the detailed response, I'm always eager to learn more. Did it have any difference on your performance in the gym? I'm not too worried about my sex drive rn but I've been wanting to try a new unique kind of test booster to give me a little edge during my workouts.
 
Shadowblaze said:
Thanks for the detailed response, I'm always eager to learn more. Did it have any difference on your performance in the gym? I'm not too worried about my sex drive rn but I've been wanting to try a new unique kind of test booster to give me a little edge during my workouts.
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TBH, I have been a total sloth the last couple of weeks with a crazy work load. However, when I am using orchic I am more motivated to work harder whether at my desk or on my mountain bike. So I can say without question that it enhances my endurance and overall drive.
 
I added resveratrol and forskolin to my bridge post-PCT with the M-Test this time around. T was higher after my last cycle post-PCT with M-Test alone. This could be due to my age and I am not rebounding as well as previously.

Total T this time was 860.

Next cycle starts soon.
 
bigdadybry said:
I added resveratrol and forskolin to my bridge post-PCT with the M-Test this time around. T was higher after my last cycle post-PCT with M-Test alone. This could be due to my age and I am not rebounding as well as previously.

Total T this time was 860.

Next cycle starts soon.
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Did you use a S.E.R.M. as well or just over the counter herbal supplements?
 
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dvw said:
Did you use a S.E.R.M. as well or just over the counter herbal supplements?
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During PCT I used SERMs.
When I say "bridge", that's the time post-PCT and pre-next cycle.
I made mistakes during this last PCT and my total T dropped to the 200s. I extended the PCT another 2 weeks, began running MTest after PCT. I rebounded to the mid-500s with high LH/FSH and 2 weeks or so after that I felt "normal".
 
Shredz69 said:
Hey guys. I'm a middle aged dude with a 680 Testosterone level. Basically looking to naturally raise my testosterone numbers into the high end of range. So I'm exploring the current generation of Test Boosters to get a sense of the strongest most potent NATURAL booster out there, (that won't supress). Currently doing a modified version of The Texas Method for my workout, plus some steady state cardio. Diet is on the money.
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nothing is going to raise test in the long term. You can get supplements to help you for about 6-8 weeks, but that's it. Anyone who tells you different is selling you a bill of goods.
 
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