Guest viewing limit reached
  • You have reached the maximum number of guest views allowed
  • Please register below to remove this limitation

Post your E...max Results so far...

Seems like everyone is asking the same question regarding all the craziness that is surrounding this second release. Apparently people were sending bottles to be tested like 3 weeks ago, but it seems as if everyone was talking out of their asses becuase nothing ever came of it.
 
1st cycle-old bottle(original-green and white caps)- big time libido increase, strength through the roof, 16 lbs. kept, i'd say 10-12 muscle.

2nd cycle-new black bottle w/O L-norvaline-2 weeks in, 4 lean pounds, no strength increases above the norm. no libido increase, possibly a decrease.

any more questions on details, ask away.
 
stalemate...how long was your first cycle and how far into your second are you?


As for me, I'm on day 5 of E...Max and I'm up 2 lbs. without any strength increases. Libido is normal, no lethargy noticed, having a little bit of lower back pain, muscles feel real full (almost pumped) all day long. It's early and my main concern is strength increase.
 
this is great,im sure people heard there was A PH that INCREASED libido and put on mass, and now, out of the blue, its re-released and no libido increasing.

Sledge is the man. trust is key in this industry.
 
My results so far are pretty decent. I dont number crunch so I cant give exact weights...I do, however, notice that I look alot fuller in the mirror (shoulders, back, etc all look bigger...measured arms and quads and both were up). Strength seems to go up at the very beginning of my workout and then I suddenly CRASH HARDCORE and everything seems heavy, I literally drag ass thru most of my workout but still get it done. Libido, if anything, has decreased a little bit. Dont really even care one way or another about sex as of late...will answer any other questions.
 
I'm on day 9 of my E...Max/Prostanozol stack and all I can say is that I'm blown away at the results. I'm up 8 pounds and I have had great pumps and strength increases. I'm coming off the worst prohormone I have ever used a couple of months ago ( M-1P) so this has been like a God send for me. I have used almost every prohormone/pro-steriod ever created ,starting over 5 years ago, including 3 cycles of M1T. I have to say that this cycle feels better than M1T so far. Altough my libido increase is not as strong as M1T. I had hard on all day on that stuff. But the M1P killed my libido like no other supplement ever has for me, what ever you do don't ever use that worthless ****. I'm so glad this stack is living up to the hype for me. I was hating my workout's for a while now, so this has been a breath of fresh air for me.
This is my first time responding to the forums after just reading it for a few months, but these results are so amazing I felt compelled to respond.

My stat's
Age 34
14 years of hard lifting
Pre stack weight 222
current weight 230 and growing
running NAC, red yeast rice, celery seed,hawthorne berry
PCT Nolva, ATD, Feengreek, Milk Thistle, ZMA, DHEA- I have more planning to do on this as far as details go.
I'm running 20mg of emax and just the 75mgs of the Prostanozol for four week's . I might go for 6 weeks on both and bump up the prostanozol. I could care less about gaining a ton of weight, I want my muscles hard as rocks and veiny has hell.
I forgot to list my height- 6'2
 
Day 5 for me of 20mg e...max (the new stuff, w/ l-nolva in it), 75mg prostan, and 100mg ATD during my cycle. also taking NAC, red rice yeast, omega3/6/9, zma at night, multivitamin. pct will be nolva, 6-oxo, 7-oh, tribulus, zma.

so far, i've got some bloat/pump going on, and am feeling a bit stronger, a few bouts of lethargy, a few bouts of energy too tho. weight has gone up a pound or two beyond normal. i'm kind of disappointed honestly, i thought more would be happening, but it's still early. i've been very good about my diet, downing an extra protein/whole food meal in my day, religious about my post workout meals, sleeping good, no alcohol or partying. i'm 6', 197lb, workin out for the past 5 yrs regularly.
 
what reasons? you mean because most of the people on this thread are gaining good weight? geez... the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

ALRI does good business, relax people.
 
no the posts about mediocre gains, loss of libido, lack of strength gains and gyno symptoms. ill be starting in a few weeks so hopefully this is all crap.
 
I'm running my second cycle with the old Ergomax, but a friend of mine is running his first cycle with the newer E...Max. Back in December he ran a Deca/Winstrol cycle, so he has had over 6 months off from any anabolics whatsoever. I convinced him to try E...Max, because I told him he would put on some mass, which is what he is looking for. He doesn't care too much about strength, but is more concerned with adding size to his frame. He has completed 10 days of the E...Max, so it is still pretty early. Anyway, his stats at the start of the cycle were, 5' 8" 184lbs at about 12% bf. He is a ectomorph by nature, so he has a pretty difficult time putting on weight. When he first started lifting 2 years ago, he was 130 lbs, so you see what I'm talking about. Anyway, I'll start with the negatives he has reported so far. He has only gained 1 pound, and the strength increases have been nothing dramatic like mine have been. The positives, his libido is threw the roof, the pumps are killer in the gym and pretty much last throughout the day. As for the weight gain, his diet is not to blame, as he is taking in around 4500-5000 cals a day. He eats breakfast around 7:00 am and eats every 2-2 1/2 hours all the way till 10:00pm. Like I've stated, its still early for him, but in 11 days on my second Ergomax (with the old version), I've put on 7 pounds and strength is going through the roof, so we will see. I'm in no way bashing ALRI, but this is certainly making me think.
 
JonasDavidsson said:
cant alri comment?
Click to expand...
They already have. They said it is the same as the original. By the way, I am taking in just 400-500 cals above my maintenance
which is 2900-3000 cals a day. It's just kind of cool, cause I have gained 7 pounds like this. A couple of days I have even ate at maintenance.
 
40-yard dash_2 said:
They already have. They said it is the same as the original. By the way, I am taking in just 400-500 cals above my maintenance
which is 2900-3000 cals a day. It's just kind of cool, cause I have gained 7 pounds like this. A couple of days I have even ate at maintenance.
Click to expand...
that is awesome! it cant be the same product
 
Im on my 3rd week of an ergo cutter. So far i'm happy-i've lost fat and gained a good amount of strength on all excercises. I'm on a calorie defecit doing cardio 5x a week and my last set on bench has went from 205x6 to 225x6. I can't wait to try bulking with ergo next time.
 
Took it for about 12 days before the depression set in. Gained little strength and only went up in body-weight a pound or two. The lack of strength may be due to the shitty mood which is something I have never experienced with any other hormone. This is on the e...max and not the original.

Edit: I should note the depression kicked in within the first week but become unbearable just before quiting.
 
cpa5oh said:
stalemate...how long was your first cycle and how far into your second are you?


As for me, I'm on day 5 of E...Max and I'm up 2 lbs. without any strength increases. Libido is normal, no lethargy noticed, having a little bit of lower back pain, muscles feel real full (almost pumped) all day long. It's early and my main concern is strength increase.
Click to expand...
hey buddy, first cycle was a 30 dayer. i am on day 13 of my 2nd cycle, yesterday was my first day dosing at 30mg/day. i'm thinking of after day 14, totalling my gains and switching to 20mg/day of an old bottle from my stash, i mean after all...it is the "same thing" right? so shouldn't affect much. should gain another 2-4 lbs. the last 2 weeks right? what do you guys think of this idea? keep goin at 30mg, maybe 40mg/day with E...MAX, or switch to an old bottle and do 2 weeks of it at 20mg/day?
 
by my third M1t cycle I had to double the dose to get anything out of it. now I will only run the same ps/ph twice in the same year. I try to alternate so I dont build a tolerance.

I would not give up on emax yet. I'd also like to hear some pct and "off times for you guys on your second cycle. there has been a lot of talk lately about using pct as "off" time, which I dont agree with.
 
blazinred said:
this is great,im sure people heard there was A PH that INCREASED libido and put on mass, and now, out of the blue, its re-released and no libido increasing.

Sledge is the man. trust is key in this industry.
Click to expand...
Lad, though I consider Sledge a good company head and friend, I have to say that the usual slights against others needs to stay on BB.com.

Since we have had over 5000 letters and e-mails in appreciation for our run of Ergomax LMG, I have to say that most would disagree with any negatives. And a point of interest, the raws used in the current run were from the same lot run we originally we used for Ergomax LMG. In short: Same exact raws with two formularies. One with only Pherobolix and one wih Pherobolix plus L-Norvaline. Since we released it first, filed the patents, and then opted to avoid all the drama and pulled it, it certainly is not a new idea. Just an older one that worked damn well and we brought back to make the point that we have always had the option to do so.

Best wishes in your progress and goals lad, and thank you for your thoughts.

ALR
 
stalemate said:
hey buddy, first cycle was a 30 dayer. i am on day 13 of my 2nd cycle, yesterday was my first day dosing at 30mg/day. i'm thinking of after day 14, totalling my gains and switching to 20mg/day of an old bottle from my stash, i mean after all...it is the "same thing" right? so shouldn't affect much. should gain another 2-4 lbs. the last 2 weeks right? what do you guys think of this idea? keep goin at 30mg, maybe 40mg/day with E...MAX, or switch to an old bottle and do 2 weeks of it at 20mg/day?
Click to expand...
May I ask what your off period was in between your 30 day protocol and the current one? Also, what, if anything, did you employ for PCT or bridge?

I would suggest that you switch to an old bottle but use the same dosages. When you expose tissue and receptors to a given plasma level of any substance there is a series of adaptations that occur: The number of stimulated receptors or sensitivity decreases as example, meaning that a lessor dosage would have not only reduced tissue results/activity profiles, but also less active material to work with. Consider the lad on a high protein diet that gains 2-3lbs of lean mass then decreases total protein by 20 or more %. The result would be loss of nitrogen.

Or try this analogy: If you put 3 teaspoons of sugar in your coffee then reduce to only 2, do you expect the same taste effects? The loss is due to desensitized receptors that take time to.

I do hope this makes sense lad. And please let us know your results if you opt to take this path.

Personally I have used both about 2 months apart and notice no difference.

Thanks for the input. I like lots of feed back and appreciate you taking the time to do so.
 
Author L. Rea said:
Lad, though I consider Sledge a good company head and friend, I have to say that the usual slights against others needs to stay on BB.com.

Since we have had over 5000 letters and e-mails in appreciation for our run of Ergomax LMG, I have to say that most would disagree with any negatives. And a point of interest, the raws used in the current run were from the same lot run we originally we used for Ergomax LMG. In short: Same exact raws with two formularies. One with only Pherobolix and one wih Pherobolix plus L-Norvaline. Since we released it first, filed the patents, and then opted to avoid all the drama and pulled it, it certainly is not a new idea. Just an older one that worked damn well and we brought back to make the point that we have always had the option to do so.

Best wishes in your progress and goals lad, and thank you for your thoughts.

ALR
Click to expand...
Appreciate the responses..its atleast good to see you defend your product. I just hope you understand how its possible for some people to be concerned. Theres 2 different new bottles with "..." taking up most of the name, according to you both were shipped to a different country temporarily, one has an extra ingredient and one doesnt, etc etc. You hafta admit, its pretty shady :)
 
Well too bad I am currently on a cycle right now, or I would try to new e....max since I have not used any in the past. Sure I can not compare, but I also do not have to worry about being desensitized to it either. Either way with the bad/good results, I am still excited to try the product. I guess some of it is being tested, so that should tell us what is what about it. I hope it is the original formula and i do not want to believe the ALRI would destroy its company over one product for a few month run.
 
snakebyte05 said:
Well too bad I am currently on a cycle right now, or I would try to new e....max since I have not used any in the past. Sure I can not compare, but I also do not have to worry about being desensitized to it either. Either way with the bad/good results, I am still excited to try the product. I guess some of it is being tested, so that should tell us what is what about it. I hope it is the original formula and i do not want to believe the ALRI would destroy its company over one product for a few month run.
Click to expand...
Yes, thats why I seem to be keeping the faith...blatently lying just to get a few extra sales out on a SHORT run would be the most asanine business decision possible.
 
AFOX said:
I'm on day 9 of my E...Max/Prostanozol stack and all I can say is that I'm blown away at the results. I'm up 8 pounds and I have had great pumps and strength increases. I'm coming off the worst prohormone I have ever used a couple of months ago ( M-1P) so this has been like a God send for me. I have used almost every prohormone/pro-steriod ever created ,starting over 5 years ago, including 3 cycles of M1T. I have to say that this cycle feels better than M1T so far. Altough my libido increase is not as strong as M1T. I had hard on all day on that stuff. But the M1P killed my libido like no other supplement ever has for me, what ever you do don't ever use that worthless ****. I'm so glad this stack is living up to the hype for me. I was hating my workout's for a while now, so this has been a breath of fresh air for me.
This is my first time responding to the forums after just reading it for a few months, but these results are so amazing I felt compelled to respond.

My stat's
Age 34
14 years of hard lifting
Pre stack weight 222
current weight 230 and growing
running NAC, red yeast rice, celery seed,hawthorne berry
PCT Nolva, ATD, Feengreek, Milk Thistle, ZMA, DHEA- I have more planning to do on this as far as details go.
I'm running 20mg of emax and just the 75mgs of the Prostanozol for four week's . I might go for 6 weeks on both and bump up the prostanozol. I could care less about gaining a ton of weight, I want my muscles hard as rocks and veiny has hell.
I forgot to list my height- 6'2
Click to expand...
Thank you for sharing your results.

If I may offer a couple suggestions, M-1P is an effective weight gain product but is of the same structural catagory as many progestins: No libido. For some this is a great option. Personally I like my libido up.

As to pure ATD, it really does have poor bioavailability so would suggest using one of the improved analogs and complete formulas. ATD along can be a problem.

At 240 and never more than 7% I know what you mean about enjoying the leaner side of our efforts.
 
Author L. Rea said:
In short: Same exact raws with two formularies. One with only Pherobolix and one wih Pherobolix plus L-Norvaline.
Click to expand...
My only question is if these have the same raws, and dominator was also from the same raws how much of this do you have laying around? Raven said you had it in a safe, but considering all the bottles sold this must be one BIG safe.
 
aspire210 said:
My only question is if these have the same raws, and dominator was also from the same raws how much of this do you have laying around? Raven said you had it in a safe, but considering all the bottles sold this must be one BIG safe.
Click to expand...
Didnt the raws get shipped to south america or something? :)


¡Porqué toma el reparto verdadero cuando usted puede tener ERGOMAX!
 
aspire210 said:
My only question is if these have the same raws, and dominator was also from the same raws how much of this do you have laying around? Raven said you had it in a safe, but considering all the bottles sold this must be one BIG safe.
Click to expand...

That sounds like it would have been a sarcastic response, why would they keep it in a safe, were they planning on someone breaking in for the formula, which we already knew?
 
could it be due to bad storage of the raws in south america that caused the compound to lose efficacy?
 
Author L. Rea said:
May I ask what your off period was in between your 30 day protocol and the current one? Also, what, if anything, did you employ for PCT or bridge?

I would suggest that you switch to an old bottle but use the same dosages. When you expose tissue and receptors to a given plasma level of any substance there is a series of adaptations that occur: The number of stimulated receptors or sensitivity decreases as example, meaning that a lessor dosage would have not only reduced tissue results/activity profiles, but also less active material to work with. Consider the lad on a high protein diet that gains 2-3lbs of lean mass then decreases total protein by 20 or more %. The result would be loss of nitrogen.

Or try this analogy: If you put 3 teaspoons of sugar in your coffee then reduce to only 2, do you expect the same taste effects? The loss is due to desensitized receptors that take time to.

I do hope this makes sense lad. And please let us know your results if you opt to take this path.

Personally I have used both about 2 months apart and notice no difference.

Thanks for the input. I like lots of feed back and appreciate you taking the time to do so.
Click to expand...
My first cycle was somewhere around the end of January toward the end of Feb.(we'll call it Jan. 25-Feb. 25) PCT was for the next 30 days including but not limited to:

Milk Thistle
NAC
RXT(the good batch....damn, was it a good batch!! :D )
etc.

my off time was the approximate of March 25-July 14(i believe that is correct) so almost 4 whole months.

so again, are you saying that i should switch to an old bottle after day 15 and do my last 15 days with 20mg(my whole first cycle dosage) or 30mg/day(as i have just started on the new E...MAX)?? please clarify and i will do as you suggest.

i really want you to know that i am trying not to doubt you too much yet, but with all of the commotion and my feelings on this cycle so far, it's becoming tough. Gains are here, and they are less. we all knew it would happen. i am honestly hoping for a lean 10 lbs. that i can keep. so far i have 3 solid pounds that ARE lean. my libido is DOWN and i get spells of lethargy. i get at least 8 hours of sleep per night(which i cannot say for the first cycle, but none the less, THAT first cycle was NO problem having energy ALL OF THE TIME!!) and strength was NOTICEABLY more after the 4th pill on the first cycle, this time it has been slow and small. the libido is the most noticeable thing this time around though. anyway, more questions, ask em and i'll try to keep up.

thank you very much for answering Author, as your input is MUCH needed at a time like this.
 
wastedwhiteboy2 said:
by my third M1t cycle I had to double the dose to get anything out of it. now I will only run the same ps/ph twice in the same year. I try to alternate so I dont build a tolerance.

I would not give up on emax yet. I'd also like to hear some pct and "off times for you guys on your second cycle. there has been a lot of talk lately about using pct as "off" time, which I dont agree with.
Click to expand...
i would have to TOTALLY disagree with the thought process of PCT being considered time off. i don't even go by the time on equaling time off that would mean i could get by with 4 full cycles/year and i think 2 is plenty(although i'll start up early Jan. next year on SD). i like for there to be at least a couple of months between the end of PCT and the start of the next cycle. to be honest, the only reason i started this cycle now was because i wanted to give some feedback to some people on the product just in case something was ary(awry?? whatever).
 
snakebyte05 said:
Well too bad I am currently on a cycle right now, or I would try to new e....max since I have not used any in the past. Sure I can not compare, but I also do not have to worry about being desensitized to it either. Either way with the bad/good results, I am still excited to try the product. I guess some of it is being tested, so that should tell us what is what about it. I hope it is the original formula and i do not want to believe the ALRI would destroy its company over one product for a few month run.
Click to expand...
Should be interesting results. Three supposed qualified chemist have claimed to have tested the original (from competing companies) and were either totally or partially wrong. One other got it right...in part. Pherobolix is not a compound lad. Is a synergistc matrix. Please let us know when you are off cycle and ready to run again. Do you have some in stock?
 
I did not get to try the "original" formula and I'm thinking of trying the "new" formula starting this Sunday. I'll post updates on my thread.
 
snakebyte05 said:
That sounds like it would have been a sarcastic response, why would they keep it in a safe, were they planning on someone breaking in for the formula, which we already knew?
Click to expand...
Invalid Link Removed

I don't THINK shes being sarcastic.
 
im gonna be blunt. is there dmt or not? and if it has dmt in it, why less then the first batch.
becuase common sence would tell you that if there was DMT in here Everyone would be getting crazy labido boosts.
and thats not the case for this run of it.
 
If you are lethargic, perhaps you are overtraining? Im doing PCT and recovering from some injuries so I am training lighter, and I seem to have gained some energy from the lighter workload. I plan of being 100% healthy and rested when I start up a E-Max LMG cycle here in about a month now.
 
Ok, i have a bottle of E...Max LMG w/o norvaline. So youre saying that it is the EXACT same as the original ergomax lmg?
 
400runner said:
im gonna be blunt. is there dmt or not? and if it has dmt in it, why less then the first batch.
becuase common sence would tell you that if there was DMT in here Everyone would be getting crazy labido boosts.
and thats not the case for this run of it.
Click to expand...
Ok, I'll be blunt....so now you're a scientist eh 400runner? How do you know specifically that DMT increases libido in the first place? Cuz that's what people said about ergo before? How many times has author stated there wasn't DMT in Ergomax but the substance has many of the same properties? How many times does he have to say it? And where does this "less than the first batch" statemenet come from? Are you just making stuff up now? It's same damn makeup from the same raws. IT'S THE SAME STUFF, PERIOD. YOU HEARD IT FROM ALR HIMSELF, FROM RAVEN, etc.

How hard is this for you to understand? How hard is it to stop with stupidass claims and substance-lacking accusations. The stuff is the same, it has the ingredients, the same everything except for a few bottles with L-Norvaline in it.

Either use the stuff or don't, but stop with the senseless crap, it's irritating all of us. IT'S THE SAME STUFF...
 
Well theres a thread over at bb.com about people saying that they think it's bunk, and i'm getting relaly confused as to who is correct. Was it tested, if so where can i see the results?
 
not_big_enuf said:
Ok, I'll be blunt....so now you're a scientist eh 400runner? How do you know specifically that DMT increases libido in the first place? Cuz that's what people said about ergo before? How many times has author stated there wasn't DMT in Ergomax but the substance has many of the same properties? How many times does he have to say it? And where does this "less than the first batch" statemenet come from? Are you just making stuff up now? It's same damn makeup from the same raws. IT'S THE SAME STUFF, PERIOD. YOU HEARD IT FROM ALR HIMSELF, FROM RAVEN, etc.

How hard is this for you to understand? How hard is it to stop with stupidass claims and substance-lacking accusations. The stuff is the same, it has the ingredients, the same everything except for a few bottles with L-Norvaline in it.

Either use the stuff or don't, but stop with the senseless crap, it's irritating all of us. IT'S THE SAME STUFF...
Click to expand...
When someone is calling the facts, as told by the company, into question, you can't cite "the company said so" as an appropriate defense.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top