post workout carbs

insane lifter

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I have read that you should consume a sports drink of some sort post work out. Should you still do this if you are on a cutter.
 
Lots of people use low GI carbs (usually oats) after a WO, but WMS/vitargo are getting a very strong following as of late.
 
I was looking at Virtago and the cost$$ seems high 45$ for 25 servings and the NP Kwick Karb which looks to be the same thing is only about 20$ for 25 servings. Is virtago that much better than the Kwick karb version?
 
i like to down around 40g dextrose immediatley, or a little less if im cutting then 15 min later i do 2 cups water, 2 scoops ON whey, and 2 cups oatmeal in a blender works awesome.
 
insane lifter said:
I have read that you should consume a sports drink of some sort post work out. Should you still do this if you are on a cutter.
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What kinda carbs (if any) is your body getting prior to your workout? If you eat some oats or a sweet potato 45 minutes or so pre-workout, there's really no need take carbs post-workout, as the pre-workout carbs are still processing in your system. I imagine your concern is the amounts of sugar in sports drinks, which can be detrimental when cutting (especially if you're doing a ketogenic diet).

What's really beneficial about a sports drink is the electrolytes, vitamins and minerals. Perhaps you should check out Invalid Link Removed.
 
Sinner you are correct, I dont want all that sugar, and definetly not on a cutter. I checked out the link you posted and I think I will be trying this product. Looks like a great product and seems pretty cost effective also. I think I will try it and see how it goes. Thanks for the info bro.
 
insane lifter said:
Sinner you are correct, I dont want all that sugar, and definetly not on a cutter. I checked out the link you posted and I think I will be trying this product. Looks like a great product and seems pretty cost effective also. I think I will try it and see how it goes. Thanks for the info bro.
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Been thinking of picking it up myself. Workin' 2005 (he sometimes posts on these boards) is a great guy, and the owner of that company. A lot of board members swear by this stuff. If anything, it's got a pretty wicked formulation.
 
thesinner said:
What kinda carbs (if any) is your body getting prior to your workout? If you eat some oats or a sweet potato 45 minutes or so pre-workout, there's really no need take carbs post-workout, as the pre-workout carbs are still processing in your system. I imagine your concern is the amounts of sugar in sports drinks, which can be detrimental when cutting (especially if you're doing a ketogenic diet).

What's really beneficial about a sports drink is the electrolytes, vitamins and minerals. Perhaps you should check out Invalid Link Removed.
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I would have to disagree here. You should still take in carbs after your workout even if you are on a cutter. WMS is a good option because your cutting and insulin is a concern. ee what im saying?
 
dalvare1 said:
I would have to disagree here. You should still take in carbs after your workout even if you are on a cutter. WMS is a good option because your cutting and insulin is a concern. ee what im saying?
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No, I don't see what you are saying. All you said is that you should still take in carbs post-workout, and to take WMS. Who gives a crap what carbs are in your stomach when there's carbs in your bloodstream?

Last I checked WMS is a high glycemic carbohydrate, why would this lower insulin?
 
thesinner said:
Last I checked WMS is a high glycemic carbohydrate, why would this lower insulin?
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This product seems to have a reputation for not requiring insulin for uptake. Does not sound logical to me but whatever...

What the person is suggesting, is that since elevated insulin levels may contribute to fat gain, WMS will provide energy without adversely adding to adipose tissue.
 
insane lifter said:
I have read that you should consume a sports drink of some sort post work out. Should you still do this if you are on a cutter.
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I would recommend that you eat/drink some sort of meal containing some carbs around your W/O (before, during, or after.) If you are cutting then make the meal smaller (ie less calories). IMO the rest is window dressing.
 
Nitrox said:
This product seems to have a reputation for not requiring insulin for uptake. Does not sound logical to me but whatever...

What the person is suggesting, is that since elevated insulin levels may contribute to fat gain, WMS will provide energy without adversely adding to adipose tissue.
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Yeah, let's not bring the WMS battles in here. There's plenty of threads that have beaten that to the ground.

I guess right now we are just making assumptions as to how insane lifter's cutting plans look. I will agree that pre and post workouts are probably the best times to take in carbs; however, IMO taking in slow-carbs pre-workout leads to a better workout in the gym, and since the carbohydrates are still going to be in your system by the end of the workout, there's no rush for post-workout carbs replenishment.
 
Hey, sinner. My pre-work out meal usually is 20-23 grams of whey protein and corn flakes with skim milk. P/WO is 40 or so grams of whey protein,oats and water made into a shake. The rest of my diet is pretty basic, tuna,grilled chicken breast,fat free cottage cheese and egg whites. I have came to the conclusion, from the info I have received here that I dont need that post work out sports drink. Thanks for the info bro.
 
I take in dextose postraining. Recently ive been doing a fruit shake. Banana, strawberries, 2 cups skim mixed with my whey iso-100. I dont want to get in a big debate here. I think the only time to get sugary carbs in is postraining and or if your working outside all say long doing physical work.

Lane Norton said something about dont take in fruitjuice(this would be fruits too right?) because it has frutose in it.

anyways whatever Im doing is working well for me.
 
smeton_yea said:
Lane Norton said something about dont take in fruitjuice(this would be fruits too right?) because it has frutose in it.
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His reasoning for this is probably along the lines of fructose requiring metabolizing to glucose in the liver before being usable as carbohydrate and so is not IMMEDIATELY available to muscle.

It will get into the bloodstream, it just takes a little longer. As you can see it just heads back to the low vs high GI debate. Don't forget to factor in that fruit has some great micro-nutrients; dextrose has, well, you get the picture...
 
Nitrox said:
It will get into the bloodstream, it just takes a little longer. As you can see it just heads back to the low vs high GI debate. Don't forget to factor in that fruit has some great micro-nutrients; dextrose has, well, you get the picture...
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Yeah Thats why I take it because I dont eat fruits any other time of the day(unless Im doing heavy physical work and Ill have half an apple, or orange or banana with a protein bar) but other than this the only time I take it in is post training because of the health benifits of fruits. Ill take sacificing a lil absorpation for the health benifits of fruits.
 
i have tried every variation as many of you have. i will have 30g WMS w/ 6g Creatine Mono and 20g BCAA @ about 3/4 through my workout... When i get home i will have a 40g Whey shake w/ Oats and a little PB and a little natural fruit preserves...

seems to work for me pretty well...

good luck guys
 
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