Possible Gyno Help

RJW719

RJW719

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I am on day 15 of my first PH, Helladrol. My right pec has swollen up just below my nipple pretty bad! It is very noticeable and the nipple on that side is also slightly larger than the left one. Its almost like a little soft bag hanging at the bottom of my pec.

I have had no sensitivity, soreness, discharge or anything like that from my nipples. I hadnt really been looking at my chest that closely the last few days, but then tonight I looked in the mirror and was like "WHOA!!! What the F*** is that?!" I had noticed my nipples were pretty puffy, to the point where you can see the puffiness through my shirt the last week or so.

My camera was stolen so I cant post up pics right now, but any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

I have nolva on hand, was wondering if you think i should run that along side the helladrol, or quit the cycle and start the nolva, or what? Like I said, this is my first cycle so I dont really know what I should do here.

Please Help!!
 
I would start by running Nolva 20mg. See how things go over the next few days, do not keep poking at it.

If there is no positive changes, quit the cycle and go straight to PCT.

Do you have letro or any other AI on hand?
 
I hope you have nolva and letro or arimidex in hand cause it sounds like you could use it. I'm pretty disposed to gyno so even on ph I always use arimidex around .25 every couple of days. if you have an AI I would start at a high dose and nolva at least at 20 if not 40mg a day until it's under control.
 
bashman said:
I would start by running Nolva 20mg. See how things go over the next few days, do not keep poking at it.

If there is no positive changes, quit the cycle and go straight to PCT.

Do you have letro or any other AI on hand?
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No I dont have any letro or an AI on hand, just nolva. I never had gyno before and with this being my first cycle and supposedly a mild ph (halodrol clone) I thought I was good with the nolva.

So start the nolva at 20mg a day and if it goes away then drop the nolva and continue on with the cycle? Or keep going with the nolva through out the rest of the cycle and into pct?
 
If this is gyno would there definitely be pain when pressing on it? I have tried all the tests in the "if you think you have gyno" sticky and I cant find a lump and have no pain. I have allways had a "fatty" chest, is it possible that while on cycle I am storing more fat on that one side? When I feel it it feels more like fatty tissue than "fibrous".
 
RJW719 said:
If this is gyno would there definitely be pain when pressing on it? I have tried all the tests in the "if you think you have gyno" sticky and I cant find a lump and have no pain. I have allways had a "fatty" chest, is it possible that while on cycle I am storing more fat on that one side? When I feel it it feels more like fatty tissue than "fibrous".
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It is possible, pics would help others get a better understanding. I guess if there is a lump I certainly would not want to risk it.

I know some guys who have had lumps form with no pain at all, so symptoms are kind of individual.

You will need an AI as Nolva will do nothing for, what I think, is estrogen related. Whats on paper about a PH does not always hold true in real life circumstances. Nolva should reduce the size if not get totally rid of it.

I would think you will need to extend PCT over 4 weeks and taper an AI to combat the extra estrogen so that the lump does not unexpectedly grow back after Nolva is out of your system.

Something else I was thinking is grab PP Androhard and stack it with your cycle, might help balance things out.

PS AT LEAST GET SOME LETRO - you should of been preapred
 
So ive got some letro coming but i have a couple questions with running it. Im almost 3 weeks into this cycle and i wanted to run my cycle for 6 weeks. once i get the letro should I ramp it up as follows,
day 1 - .5mg
day 2 - 1.0mg
day 3 - 1.5mg
day 4 - 2.0mg
day 5 - 2.5mg continue at that dose until gone, taper down the same way?

Also, do i need to taper down and finish the letro at the end of the cycle and then start PCT with just Nolva? Or do i continue with letro through PCT if gyno isnt gone?

My main concern is estrogen rebound if I dont stop the letro correctly.

Thanks everyone! I appreciate the help!
 
RJW719 said:
So ive got some letro coming but i have a couple questions with running it. Im almost 3 weeks into this cycle and i wanted to run my cycle for 6 weeks. once i get the letro should I ramp it up as follows,
day 1 - .5mg
day 2 - 1.0mg
day 3 - 1.5mg
day 4 - 2.0mg
day 5 - 2.5mg continue at that dose until gone, taper down the same way?

Also, do i need to taper down and finish the letro at the end of the cycle and then start PCT with just Nolva? Or do i continue with letro through PCT if gyno isnt gone?

My main concern is estrogen rebound if I dont stop the letro correctly.

Thanks everyone! I appreciate the help!
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I would advise using Letro as a last resort, especially whilst on cycle, you're gona be killing nearly all of your estrogen, which will kill your joints and probably reduce gains whilst on cycle.

I was thinking using Nolva for now, which should reduce the size if not get rid of it, then go into PCT tapering an AI. It would be better to get blood work done after cycle, just before PCT, to assess what and how much is out of whack.

That way you would maybe be able to get away with using a strong OTC AI like Triazole or Erase. I have seen people prone to gyno use these successfully on cycle to prevent problems. You could use one of these and see if thats helps things before taking the plunge with Letro.

If you are going to use Letro on cycle, I advise not to go above 1.25ml max, whilst slowly tapering it up every couple days if you do not see improvement. You do need to taper off the Letro, check out the Letro protocol thread.
 
bashman said:
I would advise using Letro as a last resort, especially whilst on cycle, you're gona be killing nearly all of your estrogen, which will kill your joints and probably reduce gains whilst on cycle.

I was thinking using Nolva for now, which should reduce the size if not get rid of it, then go into PCT tapering an AI. It would be better to get blood work done after cycle, just before PCT, to assess what and how much is out of whack.

That way you would maybe be able to get away with using a strong OTC AI like Triazole or Erase. I have seen people prone to gyno use these successfully on cycle to prevent problems. You could use one of these and see if thats helps things before taking the plunge with Letro.

If you are going to use Letro on cycle, I advise not to go above 1.25ml max, whilst slowly tapering it up every couple days if you do not see improvement. You do need to taper off the Letro, check out the Letro protocol thread.
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Agreed
 
Try grabbing some aromasin if possible, not as harsh as Letro and effectiveness is not reduced when used with Nolva, unlike Letro where plasma levels are reduced - or something like that.... so I have read.
 
Ok ill hold off on the letro. So just take the nolva now and see if that gets rid of it, if it does should i discontinue the nolva until pct, or keep going at 10mg until pct then bump up and do pct as planned?
 
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