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Possible Gyno from Epi

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Hi, I'm a long time lurker here and found the info very useful but now I need a little pesonal advice if you will.

OK, 3rd week into a full cycle of Epi. Well day 1 of week 4.

I think I'm getting gyno. last few days I've had really sore nipples and they appear puffy. Not sure what to do.

I dosed at 30,30,30mg ED(after ramping up 10,20,30 in week 1) with Trisorbargen and was about to do 40mgED for the last week and then start Clomid, X-lean, Mass-FX and Hyperdrol. I have some Novadex XT as I was gonna do a pulse originally but wasn't going to use it in PCT when I decided to go full cycle instead.

I have only used Epi and Trisor, no other AI or Test boost.

Should I can the cycle immediatley, or ramp the the Epi down for a couple of days and include the Novadex until I start the PCT outlined above?

Not sure what to do as I hear just stopping PH dead can be bad. What's the general consensus here guys?

As a side note, I have testicular atrophy, but I wouldn't say it was severe - not like they vanished or anything.

Thanks very much for any advice :cheers:
 
I haven't heard that stopping PH dead is bad... Perhaps stopping dead and not doing PCT is bad.... but I think stopping use of your PH right away is the simplest and best course of action if you think you are getting gyno.
 
TheAnimalG said:
I haven't heard that stopping PH dead is bad... Perhaps stopping dead and not doing PCT is bad.... but I think stopping use of your PH right away is the simplest and best course of action if you think you are getting gyno.
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Yeah - I guessed that was the answer.

So tomorrow I'm gonna start Mass FX, Hyperdrolx2 as per instructions and Clomid 3 servings at 50mg, then 100mg at 2 servings next day and then 50mg/day for 2 weeks.

This was my first cycle, so I guess I can say I'm prone to gyno if I picked it up so easily...

Had good strength/mass gains though so will definatley consider something stronger next time but run Nolva or something else on cycle. Research needed first.
 
Odd.

Weird.. Ive heard that Epi and Havoc have been known to actually reduce gyno, never heard of anyone getting gyno from it.. But I guess theres a first for everything.

Would appriciate it if you would keep me updated on that seeing as how I am planning to run a Havoc cycle here pretty soon.

Good luck
 
yea the epithio compound is supposed to be a gyno reducer. sounds like a contamination/quality control issue
 
GtWrestler said:
Weird.. Ive heard that Epi and Havoc have been known to actually reduce gyno, never heard of anyone getting gyno from it.. But I guess theres a first for everything.

Would appriciate it if you would keep me updated on that seeing as how I am planning to run a Havoc cycle here pretty soon.

Good luck
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I'm using he Epidrol clone of epistane. I also may just be snsitive to gyno. It may be the case that some get a flare up of gyno bfore the Epi reacts and kills it - I'm not the one who's gonna resarch that theory.

I'll say the gains have been well worth the risk and if the gyno goes down I will be considering Epi again at a more staggered dose - this was my first cycle on anything exogenous....

Time will tell - Clomid for PCT and hopefully no loss of gains.
 
Ive been taking Epidrol too thought I was having this problem. Ive had sorta puffy nips for a while, and when taking Epidrol it seemed to aggravate it, but then I starting taking 40mg a day and I am noticing some* improvements.

If I were to do it again I would do 30/40/40/40 instead of 20/20/30/40
 
MkUltra said:
Ive been taking Epidrol too thought I was having this problem. Ive had sorta puffy nips for a while, and when taking Epidrol it seemed to aggravate it, but then I starting taking 40mg a day and I am noticing some* improvements.

If I were to do it again I would do 30/40/40/40 instead of 20/20/30/40
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Aaaaarrrrgghhh! I just started taking Clomid!!!

I think I'm gonna continue though. I have Nolva in the post. If I had it on hand, I would have tried running it with the Epi but I don't think that's gonna fly with Clomid is it?

Got training in half an hour so - first day no Epi - booo

Hopefully the MassFX and Hyperdrolx2 will save my gains.
 
People seem to forget that EPI IS A STEROID! The guarantee of "no gyno" is definately NOT set in stone. Although the majority of people have good luck with it, it still has the potential to cause it.

Just run PCT bro. I've experienced puffy nips when on Epistane for higher doses. I've found if you run an AI for a few days it will help.
 
Quick question. I had never really thought of gyno comming up with epi but now that i think about it I guess it would be unlikley but possible. I still am planning on running a havoc cycle like I said earlier, if I do not see any sort of gyno would I be cool with rebound pct (I think anabolic extreme makes it) or should I get a real serm?
 
GtWrestler said:
Quick question. I had never really thought of gyno comming up with epi but now that i think about it I guess it would be unlikley but possible. I still am planning on running a havoc cycle like I said earlier, if I do not see any sort of gyno would I be cool with rebound pct (I think anabolic extreme makes it) or should I get a real serm?
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I don't think anyone on here will advise you to go any cycle without serm on hand. You may not need one - but have one.

It's unlikely that you will need one, but no-one on here will give you a definitive yes or no to that question. You have to take your own educated risks fella. I would say you shouldn't need a SERM on a pulse, and could even get away with a full cycle without - going on everyone else's experience, I'm the unfortunate minority.

Good luck with your cycle dude :)
 
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