Just received my Poseidon today (after much anticipation) and I have to say that the container was smaller than I thought it would be, but no biggie-good things come in small packages. I have one minor complaint and it was that the scoop was buried deep in the container so I had no idea how big the serving scoop was and I ended up taking probably 7-8 servings worth as I free poured it into my Gatorade. I eventually had to pour the Poseidon into a bowl until the scoop showed itself. Needless to say, I felt the infamous niacin flush. My face is still red. I have read that taking an aspirin 30 minutes beforehand can subside the flush. Will that be necessary on a daily basis? Upon doing that research, I also read that long term use of niacin can cause a deficiency in other B vitamins and very high doses can lead to liver damage. The research also indicated that 75mg is considered high, so is the worst that one should expect is the flush feeling which hopefully will diminish over time?
First impression is a good one as I can say I feel an overall better sense of well being or clarity-like I did when I started with Stimulant-X.
What prompted Nimbus to name the product Poseidon afterall? Just curious, as it means the God of the sea, horses and earthquakes.
BigDog77
Hello Big Dog!
I'm sorry you had a problem with the scoop. We have actually addressed that issue already and will be shipping all future orders of Poseidon in larger containers....Thanks for the feedback ;-) Email me your shipping address and I'd be happy to send you a sample of our, soon to be released,
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Regarding liver toxicity over prolonged niacin use, I think you may be confusing the time released niacin (which we DO NOT use) for the form of niacin we do use.
Timed Released Niacin can be toxic to the liver at higher doses over time. The niacin we use is NOT and has been used therapeutically in doses up to 1,500 mgs per day....Here is some information and references for you to look over if you care to research it further, I think it will answer all your questions:
There are several precautions which one needs to implement however when one uses niacin. Niacin usually has a "flush effect" - which is not harmful - associated with it which is very similar to the hot flashes women experience during menopause. Niacin supplements are available in regular and “timed-release” forms. Timed-release versions of niacin have been made available to avoid this "flush" effect. The problem with most TIMED-RELEASED niacin is that they are associated with a high degree of liver problems.
The timed-release forms of nicotinic acid are intended for a prolonged release of niacin during its 6-8 hour transit time in the intestines, but timed-release niacin is also associated with greater toxicity and safe doses are only about half of normal-release forms of niacin.
In the high doses used for controlling cholesterol levels (anything above 100mg/day), nicotinic acid can cause skin flushing and skin itching as well as headaches, lightheadedness and low blood pressure. The niacinamide form of niacin does not cause these side effects, but it is not effective in reducing cholesterol levels, so it is seldom taken in such high doses. The slow-release versions of niacin supplements have the potential for causing liver damage (even at “lower” doses of 500mg/day) - so blood tests to monitor for liver damage are recommended and high-dose niacin supplementation should only be undertaken under the guidance of a natural physician. Anyone with liver disease, including those who consume more than 2 drinks of alcohol daily, should not take high-dose niacin.
Niacin is cheap, so its effectiveness in reducing cholesterol levels may be an inexpensive solution to reducing a known risk factor for cardiovascular disease. When monitored properly by a natural physician, niacin therapy can be almost as effective as the popular (and expensive) statin drugs for lowering cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Niacin may be the most cost-effective lipid-lowering agent currently available.
Niacin dosing is usually started at the low-end (100mg/day), with increasing doses of 250mg each week until blood lipid levels start to normalize (or side effects develop). Side effects are usually minimized by increasing the dosage slowly to the common therapeutic range of 1000-1500mg/day. Niacin doses should be divided into 2-3 separate daily doses, or no more than 500-750mg per individual dose).
References
1. Capuzzi DM, Guyton JR, Morgan JM, Goldberg AC, Kreisberg RA, Brusco OA, Brody J. Efficacy and safety of an extended-release niacin (Niaspan): a long-term study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):74U-81U.
2. Cunningham JJ. Micronutrients as nutriceutical interventions in diabetes mellitus. J Am Coll Nutr. 1998 Feb;17(1):7-10.
3. Gardner SF, Marx MA, White LM, Granberry MC, Skelton DR, Fonseca VA. Combination of low-dose niacin and pravastatin improves the lipid profile in diabetic patients without compromising glycemic control. Ann Pharmacother. 1997 Jun;31(6):677-82.
4. Goldberg AC. Clinical trial experience with extended-release niacin (Niaspan): dose-escalation study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):35U-38U.
5. Greenbaum CJ, Kahn SE, Palmer JP. Nicotinamide's effects on glucose metabolism in subjects at risk for IDDM. Diabetes. 1996 Nov;45(11):1631-4.
I hope you find this helpful. I'll be keeping up with your log and look forward to your results :thumbsup:
Workin
BTW...I've never heard of anyone taking 8 servings at once! I've taken 8 servings in a day many times..but never at once. I think I would have had to dilute it in water, poured most of it in a large container and put it in the fridge...but that's me...lol! ;-)