PN Dermahex/ BPS Dermacrine

Not sure if placebo or not, but felt much much stronger today than usual, had some really clean energy despite feeling tired all day
 
Joshlm69 said:
Not sure if placebo or not, but felt much much stronger today than usual, had some really clean energy despite feeling tired all day
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Sounds like it's starting to kick... Lethargy during the day and beast mode in the gym lol Do you notice any glycogen filling? Muscle fullness?
 
Dermacrine slims me up beautifully, its the most pronounced effect personally. I use 6 pumps per day.
 
So Patrick Arnold posted on PHF that this stuff is SEVERELY underdosed. guess there is no point carrying on, no point getting shutdown for zero/minimal gains.

Pretty upset, but at the same time, guess its a blessing in disguise

Will start clomid today - do i need to do 50/50/25/25 for only 7 days of use?
 
Do you know if anything else was? As a rep they wouldn't even tell me or the other guys about the labs.

In a way it doesn't surprise me, we just have to go on people's logs and if it works for them then we just assume it's all dosed correctly.

Interesting information though.
 
grinnell27 said:
Do you know if anything else was? As a rep they wouldn't even tell me or the other guys about the labs.

In a way it doesn't surprise me, we just have to go on people's logs and if it works for them then we just assume it's all dosed correctly.

Interesting information though.
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Patrick only mentioned re the hexadrone products - said none tested were ever over 60% purity.

Im just going to clomid + daa for 4 weeks
 
NoAddedHmones said:
You are in England right? Just pick up another compound from other reliable brand and start it? Pretty much you have everything else setup.
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I'd do this. You never want to waste cycle supports and cycle time. Id extend it if I have the resources

Purity on some of PNs products are questionable.
 
goodvibes said:
I'd do this. You never want to waste cycle supports and cycle time. Id extend it if I have the resources

Purity on some of PNs products are questionable.
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This ×2
You can still find OL hormones in europe, they will give you the results you are looking for.
 
Just going to clomid restart with 50/50/25/25 and some DAA. will probably run something else in a couple of months and will stakc it with the left over dermahex
 
Joshlm69 said:
Slept well with 2g melatonin 1 hour pre bed
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Thats an insane amount! Im assuming you meant 2mg, not 2g of melatonin? Ive experimented with all kinds of doses and rest vs side effects(groggy) are best at <.5 MICROgrams. Your blood level of melatonin only has to increase slightly for a sleep inducing effect. Too much and it can effect hormones negatively and also leave you real groggy. I even use .25 mcg's with great success.
 
So, im guessing ridiculous aggression/hot flush is a side of clomid? Couldnt control my anger yesterday - stuff is potent!
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Oh right fair enough. Because doubt anyone would be very suppressed from a decently strong androgen in one week, let alone a bunk one.
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yeah definitely. just doing this to try and sort out my own T production. if it works, ill probably have to join the no supps bandwagon, bar ergonine & protein . gym gains isnt worth sacrificing libido etc. cant imagine constantly putting all that stuff into your body does it wonders!
 
Joshlm69 said:
yeah definitely. just doing this to try and sort out my own T production. if it works, ill probably have to join the no supps bandwagon, bar ergonine & protein . gym gains isnt worth sacrificing libido etc. cant imagine constantly putting all that stuff into your body does it wonders!
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Now it makes more sense why you dropped your cycle. I was wondering why. It's true anabolics aren't for everyone. It took me almost 10 yrs until I hopped onto the darkside. Only problem is the ban... Right after I got into it, everything got banned. Smh
 
goodvibes said:
Now it makes more sense why you dropped your cycle. I was wondering why. It's true anabolics aren't for everyone. It took me almost 10 yrs until I hopped onto the darkside. Only problem is the ban... Right after I got into it, everything got banned. Smh
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I keep looking at the bottle every day wanting to continue haha. Just getting a bit scared re fking my libido / hair thinning
 
Joshlm69 said:
I keep looking at the bottle every day wanting to continue haha. Just getting a bit scared re fking my libido / hair thinning
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I got you, I remember your concern about hair. If I had that problem I wouldn't touch AAS especially DHT based compounds. Tbh libido shouldn't suffer if you have a proper test base and e2 balanced.
 
Volvo140G said:
Dermacrine slims me up beautifully, its the most pronounced effect personally. I use 6 pumps per day.
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It's pretty great solo or stacked, I agree. I think people underestimate the advantage of the topical application. Everyone fears oral dhea but need to understand the difference with dermacrine.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
It's pretty great solo or stacked, I agree. I think people underestimate the advantage of the topical application. Everyone fears oral dhea but need to understand the difference with dermacrine.
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How's sustain alpha with clomid ? Is it worth it or just run clomid solo
 
Joshlm69 said:
So, im guessing ridiculous aggression/hot flush is a side of clomid? Couldnt control my anger yesterday - stuff is potent!
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Sounds about right :-). You will probably also have the other estrogen sides that women go through just before their periods lol. Crying during stupid commercials, depression, irritability, drama..everything becomes a "big deal". Haha clomid is fun. Not.
 
wondering if its good idea to use sustain alpha wit the clomid to stop the rise in e2, or just to stick to solo clomid
 
Joshlm69 said:
wondering if its good idea to use sustain alpha wit the clomid to stop the rise in e2, or just to stick to solo clomid
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I dont know how effective sustain would be in this regard. It's pretty standard to start an ai towards the end of(and beyond) clomid, in order to lower estrogen and prevent rebound.
 
I was going to use it to try and lean out a bit as I loved the effects of dermacrine.

But if the sustain can interfere with clomid then I won't .

I have no clue myself so opinions would be good
 
Without going down the PH route again.

Is there any chance you can cycle formeron + dermacrine and pct with sustain alpha?

I know formeron is technically a PH but not the same as Halo etc

Thoughts on cycle layout?

Dermacrine @ 3 pumps a day, formeron at 2 pumps a day, for 8 weeks?
yates84
 
How about dermacrine, epic unleashed, and eliminate? This would be a mild, feel good cycle that you could make some good gains on and not tank your test levels.
 
yates84 said:
How about dermacrine, epic unleashed, and eliminate? This would be a mild, feel good cycle that you could make some good gains on and not tank your test levels.
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Sounds good, was going to pick up some unleashed.

Is formeron a no no? Still have a bottle
 
Joshlm69 said:
Sounds good, was going to pick up some unleashed.

Is formeron a no no? Still have a bottle
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You could run the form in place of the eliminate, no problem
 
Im picking this back up June 8th Guys after my clomid reset has done. Feel completely back to normal on clomid, best ive felt in a long time

Will do this mild cycle then clomid again after i reckon
 
whats your verdict on the DermaHex so far ?
 
Shame about the cycle bro, I following along and just caught up now. Just got Dermacrine myself so look forward to using it.
 
Are you running derma solo? Always weighed up whether or not its worth it, not sure how much DHEA can suppress
 
Joshlm69 said:
Are you running derma solo? Always weighed up whether or not its worth it, not sure how much DHEA can suppress
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No It won't be Solo and yes I am expecting it to be suppressive. There maybe varying degrees of suppression (another debate) but in my opinion suppression is suppression whether it is from injectable test/ nandrolone or Halodrol.

Personally if I could go back, I may have done things differently but derma is apparently mild...
 
Alasel said:
No It won't be Solo and yes I am expecting it to be suppressive. There maybe varying degrees of suppression (another debate) but in my opinion suppression is suppression whether it is from injectable test/ nandrolone or Halodrol.

Personally if I could go back, I may have done things differently but derma is apparently mild...
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I agree, suppression/shutdown is just that. You are either in production or you arent.
 
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