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pmag or hdrol

Grandegallo

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Anybody have any opinions on which one is better? I want lean gains but i heard pmag gives great strength is this true? any personal experience on the two,sides etc?
 
hdrol is the only cycle i've run. so i can't speak to the efficacy of pmag or really anything about it other than what i've heard, but i've heard that they're fairly similar with pmag being a bit wetter and obviously thus a better all out bulker.

my cycle with hdrol leaned me out a pretty fair amount and i gained 8 pounds. my strength was ridiculous...my bench went up 50 pounds in the 6 weeks, and my squats and deads jumped about 30 apiece. sides were nonexistant for me until i tried 100mg...at that point i got some mild back pumps and my nuts took a vacation up north. but i feel like i could have cruised at 75 for the whole 6 weeks without having really any significant problems. i will say that i'm 100% glad i had my serm in pct rather than just going otc.
 
thats really what i was looking for from what company was your hdrol from and howd you serm,would 20/20/10/10 be enough?

Repped Btw
 
no problem man. i got mine from competitive edge labs. honestly, my pct as far as serm dosing was weird. like i said, i got shutdown from the 100mg, which i tried for like 3 days in week 5. so i went about half of week 5 and all of week 6 with tiny nuts. so anyway i started off pct planning to do it just like you outlined. during the first week, 20mg of nolva made me feel much more normal, so i figured why not try 30. i did 30 for like 3 or 4 days and my nuts returned to normal, maybe a little bigger even i dunno. then i did the rest of the week at 20, and then the final week at 10. so i only did 3 weeks, and it looked something like

20, then 30/30, then 20/10
 
o yeah also, i dunno if this was just something that i somehow missed or if you've never heard of it either, but don't drop your supports during pct. nolva is hepatoxic and can screw with lipids just like being on cycle. i dropped everything once i came off the hdrol, and because of the liver toxicity i'm assuming, my immune system kind of took a hit and then i got sick, dropped the weight i gained, and got pissed. i eventually got about half back, but it just sucks to lose it because of a stupid mistake, so keep yourself healthy man.
 
I gotcha im tryin to get evrything in line im looking forward to my first real cycle ive only experimented with 11-oxo so no real experience under my belt
 
good luck with it man. hdrol is definitely a good starter compound. i was really pleased with it. and maybe i'm a hyper responder but people talk about how mild it is, it was nothing short of amazing to me lol. but definitely get everything lined up prior to starting, because even though its mild its still no joke. if you've got any questions, even though i'm not really super experienced, feel free to pm me.
 
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