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Playoff Scenario/Superbowl Prediction

massmonster said:
No disappointment here. How many posts can you quote me on how Badass the chiefs are and how they will win superbowl xl?? I've only disagreed with your logic on how good the colts are. Question? If a niners fan, why all the support for Indy? I dont know **** about Alex. I'll take your word for it.

Why not? Who else am I going to root for. I'd like to see Manning win a SB so he doesn't become another Marino.
 
BY THE WAY...

The Chiefs throttled the Colts in 2004 by 10 points and won. And that was with a MUCH worse KC defense.

Final score was 45-35.

Both teams are better this year and would make for a hell of a game.
 
I guess thats the root of our difference. I'm a chiefs fan and do not cheer for any other team regardless of how talented. I do acknowledge that talent though. I dont think I addressed that before. Why the **** would I want Indy or manning to win the SB unless A) I was an Indy fan prior to any point where I could be called a fair weather fan or B) If I'm betting on them since I have to pick one of two teams in any given contest.

I don't hate the Colts one bit. If it were not for Peyton I'd rarely notice they exist. I've hated manning since he was in college. Talented, yes. I major tool, yes. His personality to me comes across a passive agressive little prick. Just my opinion. His teammates are a great colection of talent and Dungee doesn't get his due. He's gotten the short end since Tampa.
I site the soft schedule repeatedly because it seems to be such a waste to pit these guys againts the fools they play. Re-align the divisions and we all get play-off action games every week.


natedogg said:
Why not? Who else am I going to root for. I'd like to see Manning win a SB so he doesn't become another Marino.
 
massmonster said:
I guess thats the root of our difference. I'm a chiefs fan and do not cheer for any other team regardless of how talented. I do acknowledge that talent though. I dont think I addressed that before. Why the **** would I want Indy or manning to win the SB unless A) I was an Indy fan prior to any point where I could be called a fair weather fan or B) If I'm betting on them since I have to pick one of two teams in any given contest.
I'm not a fairweather fan whatsoever if that's what you're implying. I'm just saying If I were to root for anyone, it would be the Colts. Everybody pulls for or against somebody when their team has absolutely no chance. As bad as it sounds, I am rooting against the Niners at this point. We want that first pick in the draft so that we can get the best player in college football, Reggie Bush (yeah I said it). The frickin' Texans keep blowing games though. Sorry asses.
 
anybody else feel seatle is way overrated (talk about weak schedule...)
new england had one of thoughest schedules they came to the game against the colts bitten with the colts after a bye and the best schedule in the NFL. when everybody gets healthy there, watch out. you're counting the champs out.
 
natedogg said:
Why not? Who else am I going to root for. I'd like to see Manning win a SB so he doesn't become another Marino.

I agree I would love to see manning get a superbowl. You think the niners have it bad at least they were successful in the past. The Browns suck royally every year. I still watch every game though. And for the first time in 20 years we have a thousand yd rusher.:woohoo:
 
IntensePump said:
BY THE WAY...

The Chiefs throttled the Colts in 2004 by 10 points and won. And that was with a MUCH worse KC defense.

Final score was 45-35.

Both teams are better this year and would make for a hell of a game.
Please.

You couldn't find an original thought with a flashlight and two hands.
 
judge-mental said:
anybody else feel seatle is way overrated (talk about weak schedule...)
new england had one of thoughest schedules they came to the game against the colts bitten with the colts after a bye and the best schedule in the NFL. when everybody gets healthy there, watch out. you're counting the champs out.
They're a good team. but not a 10-2 team, they'll be in the NFC championship game because of their schedule and because I don't think the Bears are good enough to win in the play-offs on the road against Seattle but Carolina will take care of them. The 49ers DID scare the crap out of them a few weeks ago and keep in mind that this was an injury depleted 49ers squad. The team that couldn't score on anyone and they barely lost to Seattle 27-25
 
houseman said:
Please.

You couldn't find an original thought with a flashlight and two hands.

Interesting how you pull this out on a post where I don't express an opinion but only state a cold hard fact.

but then again, I guess I should consider the intelligence (or lack thereof) of the person stating the flashlight comment.
 
Dungeon1 said:
Are the Steelers a good team?
You see the Colts getting 12 possesions against a team that runs as well as the Bears?
I also see Grossman starting before the playoffs begin which adds another element to the Bears offense.

If you can make any team one demensional, which the Bears do well, defending them becomes much easier. The Patriots in years past have layed the blue-print for beating the Colts, which they probably would have done this year sans the personel problems they have had.

Peyton has yet to win the big game. No Body is going to care if they go 18-1 and don't win the superbowl. Has he ever won a championship at any level of the game?


The Patriots of LAST year layed a blueprint for LAST YEARS Colts. Teams have tried... the formula was a strong D that forced Peyton to run (which he didnt like doing even though the Edge was/is great) and forced him to make mistakes when passing... And don't forget the "way" to be the colts is in inclement weather. Always in Gillette Stadium when its snowing. Well guess what? All of their playoff games will be in a dome :D And so will the Superbowl.

The PROBLEM is, that was LAST YEARS Colts, this years team can beat you anyway. Gonna run 8 in pass protection? Fine, Peyton runs the ball down your throat and Indy's defense allows you to score 3 points. Once you start dropping another man back towards the line to stop the run, he has you and will throw it to one of his players. Both of the TEs are great players, all of his WRs are of the best in the league, he's got the best slot-reciever in the game IMO, and he can almost always read the defense and see what you're going to do. No-huddle is the future of the NFL gentlemen, Carson Palmer is having success with it too; and they love doing it :)

Teams over the past year have TRIED to stop Manning all sorts of ways... The Bengals tried a shootout, the Steelers tried running the ball and controlling the clock, The Pats wanted a shootout too.

Trust me, the Bears wouldnt have a prayer... their offense is horrible. Don't even try to compare them to the Patriots of last year; its not a fair comparison.

Remember when the Bucs won the SuperBowl? They had a damn good defense, but they also had a halfway decent offense too.

OH, and YES Peyton Manning has won a championship. At Tennessee they won the national championship and he won the Heisman trophy, and he was the #1 pick in the draft :)

rugger48 said:
First of all you need to watch a game with peyton manning in it before you can say those things about him. Because if you did you would know that he is an a jerk sometimes to his teammates and is not the kind gentle person you make him out to be. As far as his contract being renegoitiated for franchise players we will see where reggie wayne and james end up next year. I will agree he is probably the best QB in the league RIGHT NOW but he needs to win big games post season and play a little longer in the league before I can even mention him in a sentence as some of the greats who play or played football. 12-0 mean nothing or even 16-0 with out winning in the post season.

I need to watch a game with Peyton Manning in it? OMG ROFL... DUDE! seriously?!? I've watched EVERY SINGLE COLTS GAME from beginning to end this year. I know how he is in the field... he's very competitive, but don't think the highly exalted tom brady is any different... GOOD QBs are competitive... just like most good WRs are very selfish. Anyone remember Harrison from late '03 complaining about not getting the ball enough?
 
oswizzle said:
I dont know about the Colts having a better Running Back then Chiefs man sorry........Larry Johnson since he's become a full time starter has been the best RB in the NFL........I think the Colts are a better team......but undersized dudes like Dwight Freeny would get smushed by KC's Offensive Line........Just look at the Denver undersized D that was getting Handled by Will Shields and Big Willie Roaf....not to mention No one in the Colts secondary could even contain Tony Gonzalez.......

Sorry, but seeing as how the Colts are a passing team and the Edge is racking up the numbers and making such a difference (that IS why they call him the Edge).

Remember Indy has a GREAT run defense, they stopped the steelers running game cold with their 'undersized' squad. Especially their rookie Safety... that dude is bad ass!!! What's his name again? I cant remember... he had a HUGE open-field tackle against the Steelers, he's like 5'7 205

Oh and no one in the Colts secondary could contain Chad Johnson either ;) He even stated it before the game; and he was right. But the Colts STILL won, their D played well when it mattered, and their offense was their regular spectacular selves, scoring on the first 5 possessions of the game. And Denver still put up 27 points against that great D of yours. Don't think for a minute that its not possible for the Colts to DOUBLE that score.

rugger48 said:
I would definitly not rule out the steelers this year. I know this might ruffle a few feathers here, but I would not want to be chicago come this sunday. I doubt the steelers are gonna lose 4 in a row.

I agree. I think Chicago is going down. There's no offense to hit the Steelers with (who will be super pissed from losing 3 in a row -> not to mention the coach; that guy scares me lol)...
 
Bean said:
OH, and YES Peyton Manning has won a championship. At Tennessee they won the national championship and he won the Heisman trophy, and he was the #1 pick in the draft :)
Sorry Bean, Peyton never won a championship in college, that was the Tennesse team with Tee Martin at QB that won it. But you're right on the Colts vs Bears, it wouldn't be fair, it'd be Colts 27-10.
 
Natedogg.....
First off I am not a Chiefs fan and second ur smokin some laced Ganja Homie.Larry Johnson since he's been a full time running back has been the best back in the league.......his yards after contact are unreal......if he becomes a full time starter next year he will rush over 2000 yds......get NFL ticket and Become a fantasy Football geek like me and You will begin to understand the players more from watching them rather hearing crackhead espn analyst giving their bunk opinions.
 
I didn't think Peyton EVER won a championship. If you look at what the Colts have done this year, you will recognize that the best defense they faced put them in a situation that created a losable game for the Colts. Jacksonville held them to 10 points and the Bears D is More than marginally better than the Jags. If the Colts play the Bears, Peyton will be watching the game from his back. That IS the blueprint to beat the Colts, put Peyton on the turf repeatedly and watch the Colts struggle to score. That is what the Patriots have done in the past. How are they a different team this year? New coach, coordinator,QB, RB, WR, Oline? NO. They are the same team save a few additions to the D-fense. But if the d-fense faced good offenses it would not be ranked so highly. When they have faced good offenses they have given up both yards and points. I wish the Eagles would have their schedule this year, they would have a ranked D as well. Titans (2x's) Texans (2x's) Jaguars ((2x's)don't even say it they still haven't scored 30) 49er's, Steelers, c'mon the Defense was going to look better. The steelers are not a true test for this team, there is something wrong in pittsburgh, I can't say what, but it seems like they stopped believing they can win. The Colts are good, but not undefeated good and not "they will blow out this or that team" good as long as this or that team has a ligitimate top 10 defense.
 
oswizzle said:
if he becomes a full time starter next year he will rush over 2000 yds.....
Bold statement, but I'm sure we'll find out next year when he does become the number one back. BTW, besides the Broncos, LJ hasn't faced a team with that great of a D against the run. But whatever...until he becomes a full time back, we won't know for sure. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Edit: I'm not saying the guy's bad, but he needs to prove himself before you go all crazy on the guy and start calling him the best back in the league.
 
Bean said:
The Patriots of LAST year layed a blueprint for LAST YEARS Colts. Teams have tried... the formula was a strong D that forced Peyton to run (which he didnt like doing even though the Edge was/is great) and forced him to make mistakes when passing... And don't forget the "way" to be the colts is in inclement weather. Always in Gillette Stadium when its snowing. Well guess what? All of their playoff games will be in a dome :D And so will the Superbowl.

The PROBLEM is, that was LAST YEARS Colts, this years team can beat you anyway. Gonna run 8 in pass protection? Fine, Peyton runs the ball down your throat and Indy's defense allows you to score 3 points. Once you start dropping another man back towards the line to stop the run, he has you and will throw it to one of his players. Both of the TEs are great players, all of his WRs are of the best in the league, he's got the best slot-reciever in the game IMO, and he can almost always read the defense and see what you're going to do. No-huddle is the future of the NFL gentlemen, Carson Palmer is having success with it too; and they love doing it :)

Teams over the past year have TRIED to stop Manning all sorts of ways... The Bengals tried a shootout, the Steelers tried running the ball and controlling the clock, The Pats wanted a shootout too.

Trust me, the Bears wouldnt have a prayer... their offense is horrible. Don't even try to compare them to the Patriots of last year; its not a fair comparison.

Remember when the Bucs won the SuperBowl? They had a damn good defense, but they also had a halfway decent offense too.

OH, and YES Peyton Manning has won a championship. At Tennessee they won the national championship and he won the Heisman trophy, and he was the #1 pick in the draft :)



I need to watch a game with Peyton Manning in it? OMG ROFL... DUDE! seriously?!? I've watched EVERY SINGLE COLTS GAME from beginning to end this year. I know how he is in the field... he's very competitive, but don't think the highly exalted tom brady is any different... GOOD QBs are competitive... just like most good WRs are very selfish. Anyone remember Harrison from late '03 complaining about not getting the ball enough?


I was a little harsh with that watching him play comment. I think the colts are a great team and if you were to put another qb in the offense I think he would be almost as good. That offense is awesome especially with that defense giving them such great field position. I do think they had a weak schedule the first half, but their second half of the schedule is where I think they will be tested.


By the way manning has never won a national championship, Tennesse won the National title the first year after manning left for the nfl with Tee Martin.
 
natedogg said:
Bold statement, but I'm sure we'll find out next year when he does become the number one back. BTW, besides the Broncos, LJ hasn't faced a team with that great of a D against the run. But whatever...until he becomes a full time back, we won't know for sure. You have your opinion and I have mine.

Edit: I'm not saying the guy's bad, but he needs to prove himself before you go all crazy on the guy and start calling him the best back in the league.


If you pan out his numbers for a whole season the totals are incredible. I agree thou, its hard to give him that kind of credit when he hasnt played a full season as a starter. If priest is able to play, I hope he decides to take a role like faulk did with St louis. LJ is to good not to get the ball as a featured back.
 
I think when Dick Vermeil made the comments it was time for Johnson to take his diapers off and become a man....its gonna push him barring any injury absolutely insane and wanna run from KC to MT.Rushmore...dude is motivate he got clowned in public....next season he'll be the man.
 
To the 'Bears-will-win-the-superbowl' fans: *COUGH*

This is what happens when you play against a great defense and when you have no offense to help; ass-kicking.

Their defense that some say were better than the 85 Bears, allowed 190 rushing yards. HMMMM
 
Prior to this week, they were better on paper. I did not think that they would give up that many yards on the ground. I still believe that we will see Grossman starting at QB before the end of the season, and if we don't, they don't go past the second round.
 
Dungeon1 said:
Prior to this week, they were better on paper. I did not think that they would give up that many yards on the ground. I still believe that we will see Grossman starting at QB before the end of the season, and if we don't, they don't go past the second round.

I agree, he needs to be in next week if hes ready.
 
Bean said:
To the 'Bears-will-win-the-superbowl' fans: *COUGH*

This is what happens when you play against a great defense and when you have no offense to help; ass-kicking.

Their defense that some say were better than the 85 Bears, allowed 190 rushing yards. HMMMM
Great Defense?

****, are you on glue? Steelers "great" D isn't what it used to be. Wake up and smell the ****. I'd say coffee but I think that'd be too strong for your brain cells right now.

Bears D had an off game. You can only hold teams for so long before a team breaks it. Plus, Steelers were due for a big game after the previous 3.
 
houseman said:
Great Defense?

****, are you on glue? Steelers "great" D isn't what it used to be. Wake up and smell the ****. I'd say coffee but I think that'd be too strong for your brain cells right now.

Bears D had an off game. You can only hold teams for so long before a team breaks it. Plus, Steelers were due for a big game after the previous 3.

Its great compared to teams in the NFC. I was speaking relatively. How is the Bears defense rated so highly when Pittsburgh has a better one, yet some people are already saying their dynasty is over? So many people just look at sheer numbers and think thats all there is. They don't watch the games; they watch the highlights on ESPN. I hope you're not in that group?

Indy vs Jacksonville is a good example... on paper Indy barely won by 8 points. But it was a slaughterhouse. Indy's defense merely played to run out the clock; give a few yards here and there and make them work. At the very end they threw down the gauntlet and challenged the Colts offense to be forced to give up the ball on a 3 and out... and the Colts got their first down and finished off the game with 2 kneels.

A couple reasons why Pittsburgh's defense is still great: Look at the teams they lost against. They lost to the Ravens because Big Ben was not playing the game.... with him in the game, the Ravens (and any team) would have to take the pass threat more seriously, and the Steelers running game would have had more room (and that would have been the difference).

The next game was MNF at Indy. They were playing in the RCA Dome (which favors speed and quickness vs size and strength on both sides of the ball; AND the noise in the dome against the visitors is ALWAYS loud).... and against the best team in the NFL just as they were hitting their stride. Colts have a great run defense and they put it to use. The Steelers DO have a good defense, and thats why Indy ONLY racked up 26 points... remember they are normally putting up much more. All these odds were stacked against Pittsburgh.

The next game was at home vs Cincy. Their home stadium gave them a bit of advantage; but you could TELL through watching the game that the Bengals wanted it more than the Steelers. They came in to prove to everyone, and to themselves, that they are one of the bigboys now. The steelers have a great defense, they still had slight of an off-game here. You think its so horrible that Cincy put up 38 points? Well thats life; Cincy has a HELLUVA offense... Carson Palmer is a less experienced, more mobile Peyton Manning. IMO he's the 2nd best QB in the league. In the game, the Steelers were putting a lot of coverage onto Chad Johnson because of how much of a threat he is. I call this phenomenon the 'Marvin Harrison effect'. Take away defenders and allow the rest of your team to make plays. Harrison draws two? Enter Reggie Wayne. And it worked, they put up 38 points against a great defense.

So, I am definitely NOT on glue. Coffee would be good right now. Its the best part of wakin up, Folgers in my stein.
 
Bean said:
Its great compared to teams in the NFC. I was speaking relatively. How is the Bears defense rated so highly when Pittsburgh has a better one, yet some people are already saying their dynasty is over? So many people just look at sheer numbers and think thats all there is. They don't watch the games; they watch the highlights on ESPN. I hope you're not in that group?

Indy vs Jacksonville is a good example... on paper Indy barely won by 8 points. But it was a slaughterhouse. Indy's defense merely played to run out the clock; give a few yards here and there and make them work. At the very end they threw down the gauntlet and challenged the Colts offense to be forced to give up the ball on a 3 and out... and the Colts got their first down and finished off the game with 2 kneels.

A couple reasons why Pittsburgh's defense is still great: Look at the teams they lost against. They lost to the Ravens because Big Ben was not playing the game.... with him in the game, the Ravens (and any team) would have to take the pass threat more seriously, and the Steelers running game would have had more room (and that would have been the difference).

The next game was MNF at Indy. They were playing in the RCA Dome (which favors speed and quickness vs size and strength on both sides of the ball; AND the noise in the dome against the visitors is ALWAYS loud).... and against the best team in the NFL just as they were hitting their stride. Colts have a great run defense and they put it to use. The Steelers DO have a good defense, and thats why Indy ONLY racked up 26 points... remember they are normally putting up much more. All these odds were stacked against Pittsburgh.

The next game was at home vs Cincy. Their home stadium gave them a bit of advantage; but you could TELL through watching the game that the Bengals wanted it more than the Steelers. They came in to prove to everyone, and to themselves, that they are one of the bigboys now. The steelers have a great defense, they still had slight of an off-game here. You think its so horrible that Cincy put up 38 points? Well thats life; Cincy has a HELLUVA offense... Carson Palmer is a less experienced, more mobile Peyton Manning. IMO he's the 2nd best QB in the league. In the game, the Steelers were putting a lot of coverage onto Chad Johnson because of how much of a threat he is. I call this phenomenon the 'Marvin Harrison effect'. Take away defenders and allow the rest of your team to make plays. Harrison draws two? Enter Reggie Wayne. And it worked, they put up 38 points against a great defense.

So, I am definitely NOT on glue. Coffee would be good right now. Its the best part of wakin up, Folgers in my stein.
I'm just bustin chops a bit :)

I think you overvalued Pitts a little too much though. And, I quite like the Steelers myself. They just aren't what they had been in previous years, for whatever reason.
 
Larry Johnson is a beast........this says it all.

Dec 12 ESPNews reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Larry Johnson has 852 rushing yards since Nov. 1, which is the most in the NFL since that date. Johnson has six consecutive 100-yard rushing games. During that six game span, he has scored 10 rushing touchdowns.

Thats ur 1st pick of next years fantasy draft fellaz.
 
Iron Warrior said:
Good analysis Bean :thumbsup: but Pittsburgh has to win a Super Bowl before you declare them a dynasty IMO.

Yes I agree... I guess dynasty was a little too praising...

Like how the Braves have always won their division since hte early 90s...

always there, always in your face, always a threat of some sort; thats how i think of the steelers. And the smashmouth, power and size part of football too :)
 
oswizzle said:
Larry Johnson is a beast........this says it all.

Dec 12 ESPNews reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Larry Johnson has 852 rushing yards since Nov. 1, which is the most in the NFL since that date. Johnson has six consecutive 100-yard rushing games. During that six game span, he has scored 10 rushing touchdowns.

Thats ur 1st pick of next years fantasy draft fellaz.


I'll be goin with either Manning (Peyton or even Eli) or Carson Palmer. Quite possibly Reggie Bush too.
 
I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the Chiefs/Colts argument was absolutely hilarious.

The game would not be close. Not at all. Larry Johnson is good. Very good.
He is the only thing holding the team above water. They would get thoroughly trashed if they played the Colts.

(No, I am not a Colts fan)
 
Reggin said:
I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but the Chiefs/Colts argument was absolutely hilarious.

The game would not be close. Not at all. Larry Johnson is good. Very good.
He is the only thing holding the team above water. They would get thoroughly trashed if they played the Colts.

(No, I am not a Colts fan)
Please. Let's beat the horse dead a little more :D

Still waiting for IntenseChump to show up and defend his Chiefs like a man.

:rolf:
 
Dungeon1 said:
I didn't think Peyton EVER won a championship. If you look at what the Colts have done this year, you will recognize that the best defense they faced put them in a situation that created a losable game for the Colts. Jacksonville held them to 10 points and the Bears D is More than marginally better than the Jags. If the Colts play the Bears, Peyton will be watching the game from his back. That IS the blueprint to beat the Colts, put Peyton on the turf repeatedly and watch the Colts struggle to score.
Have you forgotten about who is BEHIND Peyton Manning at Indy? Edgerrin James ring a bell? The #2 rusher in the LEAGUE, only 56 yeards behind Shawn Alexander. He WILL break his career high this season in rushing TDs (he only needs one more) and he's on pace to break his career high in rushing yards in a season. So yeah, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send the Bears D on a blitz to get Peyton so that they can hand it to Edgerrin up the middle for 20, and then playaction to him and hit harrison for 6 on the next play. I'm not a Colts fan, but I love watching good football teams, and the Colts are a VERY VERY VERY good football team...
 
Magickk said:
Have you forgotten about who is BEHIND Peyton Manning at Indy? Edgerrin James ring a bell? The #2 rusher in the LEAGUE, only 56 yeards behind Shawn Alexander. He WILL break his career high this season in rushing TDs (he only needs one more) and he's on pace to break his career high in rushing yards in a season. So yeah, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send the Bears D on a blitz to get Peyton so that they can hand it to Edgerrin up the middle for 20, and then playaction to him and hit harrison for 6 on the next play. I'm not a Colts fan, but I love watching good football teams, and the Colts are a VERY VERY VERY good football team...

The sick thing is, Peyton likes to pass on a blitz :) His QB rating and completion % is very high on blitzes. I've seen him see a blitz coming, and he hikes the ball, and makes a quick pass across the middle to Dallas Clark... no one there to touch him except the small part of the secondary that didn't run in on the blitz. They were covering the other WRs and then you've got two little safeties that are a bad matchup to a good TE.

But yeah, I've been singing the praises of the Edge all year. He only gets so much recognition because he plays on a passing team. But he can win the game himself; which he has shown several times this year. If the other team wants to run 8 people in zone coverage; Manning will now humbly hand the ball off to Edge for 8-9 yards. They ran the hell out of the ball against the Titans. Anyone watch that game?

The thing I like most about watching the Colts, is that its like watching a REALLY good player on John Madden '06 on the Xbox lol. Its precise, obviously rehearsed.... they go on 4th down a lot, make 3rd down conversions over 12-13 yards quite often and the score normally looks like an Xbox game :)
 
Who said anything about a blitz? Watch a Bears game. They get pressure and contact without blitzing. My argument remains the same. What defense in the NFL has a better chance at holding the Colts offense to 21 and under. I think the Colts are probably the best team in the league right now, but it is not always the best team that wins the big game. Rex Grossamn will be starting in Chicago in the near future.

Magickk said:
So yeah, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send the Bears D on a blitz to get Peyton so that they can hand it to Edgerrin up the middle for 20, and then playaction to him and hit harrison for 6 on the next play. I'm not a Colts fan, but I love watching good football teams, and the Colts are a VERY VERY VERY good football team...
 
Dungeon1 said:
Who said anything about a blitz? Watch a Bears game. They get pressure and contact without blitzing. My argument remains the same. What defense in the NFL has a better chance at holding the Colts offense to 21 and under. I think the Colts are probably the best team in the league right now, but it is not always the best team that wins the big game. Rex Grossamn will be starting in Chicago in the near future.

The Broncos have a better chance at holding the offense under 21 points (not saying they would; they just have a better chance). The Bears D didnt even hold the Steelers offense (a running offense mind you) to under 21 points; but the Colts held them to 7 (and even that was because of an interception runback to like the 12 yard line). The steelers had maybe 1 or 2 first downs in the entire first half.

Colts... probably?... best team... there's no probably about it. And most of the time, YES the best team does win the big game. I know you want to hope against all hope, but its not the Bears' year. Get an offense first, then they can start playing with the Big Boys.
 
what team has the best chance to beat the colts?

I would say NE, Cincy, pittsburg

out of the NFC flock maybe NYG, Dallas :-)


out of all of those, I still take NE.
 
Best team that can beat the Colts is Cinci........Palmer to House and Chad combo is sick....

I hate to say it..but Mr. Cut that Meats team looks like its gonna take this year....Peyton is just in the damn zone right now. Marvelous Marvin is fucken faster then hell at his age..what gives? Colts will smash on anyone this year just for the fact they get to play indoors...if they didnt have homefield...then they'd be screwed...Cut that meat sucks ass in the cold outdoors...as we all know
 
houseman said:
Please. Let's beat the horse dead a little more :D

Still waiting for IntenseChump to show up and defend his Chiefs like a man.

:rolf:

Hey Houseman...or...Blouseman...as your coworkers at Victoria Secret call you...

I appreciate that you look foward to my posts regarding the Chiefs. However, post that you quoted has no substance to it whatsoever.

I have yet to read a post that analytically tells me why the chiefs would be blown out by the colts. Perhaps you can be the first? Oh yeah, before you start talking about the KC defense, don't forget to mention that the Chiefs have the number 1 offense in the NFL... better than the Colts...
 
IntensePump said:
Hey Houseman...or...Blouseman...as your coworkers at Victoria Secret call you...

I appreciate that you look foward to my posts regarding the Chiefs. However, post that you quoted has no substance to it whatsoever.

I have yet to read a post that analytically tells me why the chiefs would be blown out by the colts. Perhaps you can be the first? Oh yeah, before you start talking about the KC defense, don't forget to mention that the Chiefs have the number 1 offense in the NFL... better than the Colts...
Heyyyy... you finally showed up to make a post to defend your beloved Chumps errr Chiefs.

Where were you earlier in the week when they lost to the Cowboys? Fucking choked like the chumps they are too.

ON a bright note, I actually like the Chiefs and I do like the Colts as well but I definitely think you're on glue when you think the Chiefs can beat the Colts.

Perhaps if the Colts get sick and forget how to tie their kleets.

Thanks for showing up. You're not as big of a pussy as initially thought afterall. Still a pussy, just not a Roseann Barr sized pussy :D
 
Dungeon the Jaguars put 30 points up against Baltimore and 31 against Tennessee, any other false statements you wanna make?

You wish they were in your division? Both losses to the colts were one posession games and weren't decided until the final 2 minutes. They beat the Bengals, Seahawks, and Steelers.

You think KC and SD will both get in?
SD: Colts, KC, Broncos
KC: Giants, SD, Bengals
Jax: 49ers, Titans, Texans
Pitt: Vikes, Browns, Lions

That's some pretty terrible analysis, bro. Where the hell have you been this season?

That said,
AFC: Colts, Broncos, Bengals, Pats, Jaguars, Steelers
NFC: Seahawks, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care, don't care.
 
IntensePump said:
Hey Houseman...or...Blouseman...as your coworkers at Victoria Secret call you...

I appreciate that you look foward to my posts regarding the Chiefs. However, post that you quoted has no substance to it whatsoever.

I have yet to read a post that analytically tells me why the chiefs would be blown out by the colts. Perhaps you can be the first? Oh yeah, before you start talking about the KC defense, don't forget to mention that the Chiefs have the number 1 offense in the NFL... better than the Colts...

How do they have the #1 offense again? ROFL :icon_lol:

The Chiefs don't have the #1 offense... trust me. They don't even have the #2 or #3. #2 would be the Bengals; #3 would be the Seahawks. If you go by the YPG measure; the Chiefs have a slightly higher YPG than anyone in the NFL. But that is a very poor measuring stick.... and you KNOW it is.

YPG means nothing; especially for the Chiefs, who havent played any tough defenses this year; cept to Denver, which they lost the 1st game and barely won the 2nd game... and thats it :)
You might think they are SO GREAT this year, because they BEAT DENVER.... well yes; they beat them by 4 points. WHOOPDYDOO!!!!
Did you realize the Colts have beaten EVERY OPPONENT by at least 7 points over the entire year? Against the Jags and then against the Browns early in the year before their offense started clicking. This last game against the Jags was by 8 points; but if you watched the game, it was honestly by 23 points. The Jags got manhandled, just like the Steelers.... and the Patriots.... even the Bengals got beat...
They're giving the Colts an 8 point spread on the game... against the CHARGERS.... this is the #3 team in the nation on offensevia statistics
 
Bean said:
How do they have the #1 offense again? ROFL :icon_lol:

The Chiefs don't have the #1 offense... trust me. They don't even have the #2 or #3. #2 would be the Bengals; #3 would be the Seahawks. If you go by the YPG measure; the Chiefs have a slightly higher YPG than anyone in the NFL. But that is a very poor measuring stick.... and you KNOW it is.

YPG means nothing; especially for the Chiefs, who havent played any tough defenses this year; cept to Denver, which they lost the 1st game and barely won the 2nd game... and thats it :)
You might think they are SO GREAT this year, because they BEAT DENVER.... well yes; they beat them by 4 points. WHOOPDYDOO!!!!
Did you realize the Colts have beaten EVERY OPPONENT by at least 7 points over the entire year? Against the Jags and then against the Browns early in the year before their offense started clicking. This last game against the Jags was by 8 points; but if you watched the game, it was honestly by 23 points. The Jags got manhandled, just like the Steelers.... and the Patriots.... even the Bengals got beat...
They're giving the Colts an 8 point spread on the game... against the CHARGERS.... this is the #3 team in the nation on offensevia statistics

Bean...c'mon man...go let a fart and get some of that air out of your head...

What does margin of victory in its own right has little if anything to do with the strength of a teams offense. Main factors in judging an offense in my mind would be yards (both rushing and passing), turnovers, and points scored. The defense is the primary component of a team that is in charge of stopping the opposition from scoring points. Therefore, if the margin of victory is tight, offense could still be the best in the league, but the defense is not in the top tier.

And to comment, I agree that going scrictly by yards is a poor way judging the "best" offenses or defenses...however, chiefs are number one in this category after last week but also hold very impressive numbers in points scored and turnovers allowed.
 
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