Platinum Nutra Quad Mass 2.0? SARMS Help

wastedmuscle

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Got my hands on Platinum Nutraceuticals Quad Mass 2.0. I was excited...until I saw they ducked out of this forum. Anyways, do I need some sort of PCT after running this supplement? Will it shut me down? Do I take it in the morning or prior to working out?

Specs for the product are below. This is my first go around with SARMs. I am going to start with one capsule a day for a week and then work up to two capsules a day. Unless you people think I should jump to two capsules immediately.

60 capsules

25mg Arimistane

25mg 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin

10mg Ostarine

5mg LGD 4033

Any advice or input on this product/cycle is appreciated. I suck at this so feel free to berate the **** out of me. Oh, and some background, lifting 17 years, natural, in my 30s, trying to take a step up.
 
Ya brother you are going to want a proper pct with a serm. I would look into the half life of the sarms so you can better determine a dosing schedule.
 
thanks,

the rep insisted I wouldn't need pct/serm. He said the supplement already containing 25mg Arimistane and this would offset. It didn't sound right with me. I am going to try and pick up some stuff tomorrow before I get going on this. So much for the rep knowing his product.

When should I start the SERM?
 
Have you ran any ph before (I know this is your first sarm) ?

And Yeah obviously the rep knows nothing. Arimistane is an ai (and a pretty weak one at that) this will in no way shape or form replace a serm.


Sounds like you need to do some more research before starting. Two sarms will shut you down. If you're not sure where to get one or can't get a pharma grade look at some of the board sponsors in the research forum. Research research research and have everything on hand before starting. Here is a little info on ostarine to get you started. Google is your friend. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

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thanks,

Funny thing. I am prepared to run a newbie test cycle morso than a SARM cycle just based on researching for a while. I am thinking just clomid is enough. I might add in either Toremifene Citrate or nolvadex. Do you think Clomid is enough? My cycle is only for 6 weeks.
 
wastedmuscle said:
thanks,

Funny thing. I am prepared to run a newbie test cycle morso than a SARM cycle just based on researching for a while. I am thinking just clomid is enough. I might add in either Toremifene Citrate or nolvadex. Do you think Clomid is enough? My cycle is only for 6 weeks.
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Clomid is a fine pct for this. What rep told you that you wouldn't need a pct? LGD is suppressive so is osta at an effective dose.
 
McCrew530 said:
Clomid is a fine pct for this. What rep told you that you wouldn't need a pct? LGD is suppressive so is osta at an effective dose.
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Should I post the person's name? He has a shop near me.

I am thinking just sticking with one capsule the entire time (5mg LGD and 12 mg of Ostarine). I am really damn fearful of a bad shutdown. Is it better if I just use Ostarine only instead of stacking these two together? Definitely scared of harming myself. My impression was that SARMs are very friendly in this manner especially to the liver. Now I am reading reviews that state otherwise. It almost sounds like I need to treat this cycle like a Test cycle including liver support, etc.
 
Clomid is always enough.... people make pct too complicated but that's because there are so many choices. I started at a time where we didn't have ldex letro or any of the.natty test boosters etc. We all recovered fine on clomid alone. I'm not saying those other products don't help or are.good to use just saying they aren't "needed"
 
Only 60 caps in a bottle? 25mg of laxogenin? Osta and lgd stacked even though they compete for the same receptors? Smh
 
wastedmuscle said:
Should I drop this bottle and just pickup Osta? Sounds like a stack of the two is no good.
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I would pick either osta or lgd depending on your goals. The stack you have you will really only get results from the lgd, armistane will help a little with cortisol and estrogen while the laxogenin will do absolutely nothing and the osta will be overpowered by lgd at the receptor. Are you bulking or cutting?
 
Like Yates said it depends on your goals. If you want osta look into ostashred. The amount of osta per bottle can't be beat. We also have some logs done on here as well.

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yates84 said:
I would pick either osta or lgd depending on your goals. The stack you have you will really only get results from the lgd, armistane will help a little with cortisol and estrogen while the laxogenin will do absolutely nothing and the osta will be overpowered by lgd at the receptor. Are you bulking or cutting?
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Bulking. I was some mass. I can cut easy naturally. I wonder why platinum nutra put these two SARMs together? Is platinum reputable. I am definitely a little concerned.
 
Also wanted to add, at this point it almost seems safer to just run a newbie test cycle than deal with the unknowns of SARMs. I am definitely getting worried about shutdowns and the purity of product.
 
wastedmuscle said:
Bulking. I was some mass. I can cut easy naturally. I wonder why platinum nutra put these two SARMs together? Is platinum reputable. I am definitely a little concerned.
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If you are looking for mass check out legend from OL UK. 90 4mg caps of lgd that will definitely help you with your bulk. It's on sale at Nutriverse and nutraplanet right now. You could add in some gharine (mk677 ) if you want to stack something with your lgd
 
Really confused now. Maybe I have read too much but SARMs are definitely scaring me. Maybe I should swap to a peptide or something instead?
 
After 24 hours of research it seems that SARMs are rather dangerous. SARMs will in fact shut a person down just like test but without the same recomp benefits. I have decided to not try SARMs. I am back to square one and looking for a good mass supplement without going out of the United states. Dang
 
wastedmuscle said:
After 24 hours of research it seems that SARMs are rather dangerous. SARMs will in fact shut a person down just like test but without the same recomp benefits. I have decided to not try SARMs. I am back to square one and looking for a good mass supplement without going out of the United states. Dang
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Glad you did some research and made an informed decision. That being said nothing will come too close to these. As far as natty supps that work look into epi-plex, x gels, anabeta elite. I have used all 3 and so have a lot of other people on these boards. I just finished an epi-pled recomp and really enjoyed it. They are Quality products that are still effective without all the risk of prohormones. It will take longer to reach your goals but if you don't want to mess with gear this is the route to go.

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wastedmuscle said:
After 24 hours of research it seems that SARMs are rather dangerous. SARMs will in fact shut a person down just like test but without the same recomp benefits. I have decided to not try SARMs. I am back to square one and looking for a good mass supplement without going out of the United states. Dang
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Honestly if you want good mass and your not maxed out naturally you have a ton of options now a days.

Mass comes from kcal take in enough you grow.

You made the right decision if you feel sarms are scary then they aren't for you
 
take either osta or lgd, not together. they will compete for the same receptor and one will cancle the other out. from what i have seen osta has more research (professional and bro-science haha). yes osta will shut you down mildly, but typically when you get into the 20mg/day+ range. i would suggest clomid at 50/50/25/25. it never hurts to have some nolva with you as well but for a sarm, only one serm is necessary. an ai will help during your cycle such as exemestane but with the low does of osta youre using, you probably wont need it. i am about to start a log in a month or so. i will be using:

Osta (mk-2866) @ 15/15/15/15/20/20/20/20
Cardarine (gw-501516) @ 7/7/7/14/14/14/14/14
Gharine (mk-677) @ 10/10/10/10/20/20/20/20
possible dermacrine to offset lethargy/up libido

PCT:
clomid @ 50/50/25/25
micronized creatine
bcaas
multi vit

you can follow my log and see if it changes your mind about using sarms. i will be using all OL products just because i have heard good review about all of their stuff and they have labs to back up their stuff. log will include:

My bod pod results pre/post
Diet plan and recipes for 4 weeks pre-cycle and during cycle
workout routines
Supps
Before, during (weekly), and after pictures
 
yates84 said:
They mislabeled their gw and bounced from this board when people asked to see lab results on their products so..
If you are looking for mass check out legend from OL UK. 90 4mg caps of lgd that will definitely help you with your bulk. It's on sale at Nutriverse and nutraplanet right now. You could add in some gharine (mk677 ) if you want to stack something with your lgd
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That is not the reason they left the board. They went in a different business direction.
 
I also have some Platinum Nutra Quad Mass 2.0 in my stash, I have not done any research on it yet, so I have learned a lot here!
 
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