Planning Superdrol Cycle

Good luck PVS - great to see you off to a start!

Hope you keep us all posted.

(IMO - 10mg is very mild - raise it sooner rather than later if you feel no adverse effects)
 
Rufjunk, I know you are new here and all, just from your post count but do me a big huge favor.. you might want to take a look at the logs on SD here.. many of them were created by adults NOT the kids from bb.com.. also, PLEASE stop being so abusive to members here.. otherwise you will cut your stay at the board very very short..
 
mindgames said:
Good luck PVS - great to see you off to a start!

Hope you keep us all posted.

(IMO - 10mg is very mild - raise it sooner rather than later if you feel no adverse effects)
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Ya I am going to up the dose after 5 days if I see no adverse sides.
 
rufjunk said:
I was reluctant to point out the post above because I didn't want to gang up on the guy debating with me, but this is just another example of how mindgames throws out claims that are eventually dispelled.

His number one source of information is logs on bodybuilding.com...

@BOHICA:

If you want advice, run the rebound XT at the normal dosage and see what happens. You can also run another test booster like novedex or oxo... you should be fine.
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Hrmm, I hate to make my first post a flame...BUT If thats him in the avatar the only thing that comes to mind is "nuff said". If he's cycled anything and only looks like that we should all write his comments off with a head nod and look else where.
 
Spiral_ said:
Hrmm, I hate to make my first post a flame...BUT If thats him in the avatar the only thing that comes to mind is "nuff said". If he's cycled anything and only looks like that we should all write his comments off with a head nod and look else where.
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I've been reluctant to revisit this forum due to the debate I had with the poster mentioned above.

The guy reads logs on superdrol and believes everything he reads, thinking "nolvadex", an estrogen inhibitor is mandatory or you'll die.

His size has nothing to do with it.

Also I'm more than willing to debate with him again, I threw out labels the last time we had a discussion which was my mistake.

I'm more than willing to clear up this "hysteria" over superdrol logs.

For those who have been curious.

I've been on Pheraphlex for 30 mg for 3 weeks
I did PheraPhlex and Superdrol both at 20 mg for 4 weeks
and I'm just finishing my second week of Superdrol at 30mg

I've gained lots of size, been meticulous enough with my diet that I had a nutrition and mass building plan custom designed for me by Beverly nutrition.

I also supplement with CEE, No-Xplode, Milk Thistle, and Red Yeast Rice.

For post cycle therapy I've been debating using Nolvadex because I don't want to take any chances with my hormone levels, I've been experimenting with other orals but using Rebound XT and another natural estrogen inhibitor is supposedly fine, OXO, novedex XT, or Retain X.

I could go through Mindgames post and rip everything he's said to shreds but that would be counterproductive. The goal is to come to a conclusion in regards to substances marketed through bodybuilding message boards that attempt to avoid government regulation.

I made this post on another message board in regards to testosterone boosters.

I'd also like to add I've run Novedex XT by Gaspari by itself and then post cycle from Halodrol. While running it by itself was my first experiment with anything really, I did notice positive gains, I tried it after Picsman recommended it.

And some of these orals, like Superdrol and Halodrol, can be dangerous because so little was known about them when they first came out. Novedex XT should be classified in another level, thats just an anti-estrogen. I believe they are as safe as can be and aren't a threat to be added to the steroids act. I can't say anything with 100% certainty because the things I know are based off the net, but it just sounds weird to say 6-oxo messed up someone's test production..

Also if your double-triple concerned, just get your blood levels checked. You don't really know what it does until you observe what it does to you, this isn't the easiest route but if your reluctant to try anything, at least you know what it did with 100% certainty when your done.

Here's a write up on Superdrol.

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Also I'd like to add that the reason orals such as Superdrol, Phera Phlex, Halodrol, etc can be dangerous relates to the limited amount known about the substances when they first come out, that's why you have to be precautious, enough is known about Superdrol to get an accurate reading. They're also more dangerous because all of these are oral compounds that go through the liver, its recommended you take lots of Milk Thistle for that.
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I think many people take the ideology thats its better safe than sorry, I think there's a fine line between that and hysteria. You need to do proper research and be precautios, that means taking what others say with a grain of salt, including mindgames and myself while conducting your own research.
 
Here's another informative post I made..

You could try 6-oxo, it's an anti-estrogen I think so it's supposed to naturally increase your testosterone.

Novedex XT by Gaspari Nutrition is another, that's a decent one.

I don't think these things are anything like shots of test but if you're looking for a natural route, it's one way to go. You could also try Fenufreek. ALRI Ultra Hotter was one with good reviews.

These natural test boosters can eventually lead to other orals, some of which just change specific structures of chemicals where they're ultimately steroids but bypass the New Anabolic Steroid Control Act.

What's humorous is these companies, Anabolic Extreme for example, will literally revamp steroids from the 1960's in oral form and bypass the steroid act because it wasn't included in the most updated list. These companies will use a marketing ploy that encourages you to buy them before they are soon banned, pretending new legislation will be passed which will add them to the list. I think the truth is these companies products are revealed to the FDA and they threaten to take the company down, that's the primary reason why they cease production.

One key fact that's hidden is the New Anabolic Steroid Control Act has been updated once. It took 15 years for them to do that and it took effect in 2005. If history is any indication, the next legislation that will include new substances will take effect in 2020. That's why so many companies will come out with controversial oral compounds and then cease production after a few months. Gaspari Nutrition came out with Halodrol, which I took, I believe there are a few batches left, the problem with these compounds is liver toxicity so you have to be careful. Also Anabolic Extreme is rumored to be ceasing Phera Phlex and Superdrol, you can still find them on the net but these compounds are just mimicked by other companies and reproduced into new products, it's almost like a cycle. One product is stopped, Halodrol, another comes out that is similar and takes its place, it's just a continuous thing.

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krzna said:
Well all i can say is mast. is a steroid, not a ph. Anyone with some sense knows that there is more to nolvadex apart from a test jump start.

eitherways the ATD part is questionable after the delayed gyno responses both here and at bb but that said a SERM is integral to a pct, running a cycle without it is stupid.
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The above is not from me but supports what i said. I don't know why you have a vendetta against me RFJUNK, or why after quite a long time you resurrect this thread. I also point out again that SD is not a lolly - it raised my BP to 145/85 in 3 days at 20mg on my second cycle of it - even after pre loading BP supps for a fortnight prior!

Again - it is almost universally accepted that nolva is needed post cycle.

Spiral - I'm not sure if you are referring to me / my avatar or not but in case you are.....

Since when did size of body have a correlation with knowledge of products...WTF????? So if someone isn't huge they know nothing about gear? There are plenty of men who can send you to the moon who have never been there etc etc
 
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