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Planning future stack: Andro/Mandro.

bulldogger.spa

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I'm doing a natty recomp for 12 weeks. Then based on reviews and results I've read am leaning towards Andro/Mandro. I'm wondering about support supps/pct and dosing. I don't want to guess based on various sources. I'm hoping for some detailed advice. Thank you.
 
I would start Cycle Assist when you start or a week prior and run it through your cycle and PCT.

I would use M-Test or Cloma-Plex on cycle and PCT.

I would use Inhibit-E for PCT.

Personally, I have always used something for cortisol control for PCT. I like Reduce XT and Suppress-C both, but Reduce XT is always my go to for PCT. Most people think of Reduce XT now days as fat loss, but back in the old ph days, that's actually what Reduce XT was originally used for - to help maintain gains during PCT.
 
sns8778 said:
I would start Cycle Assist when you start or a week prior and run it through your cycle and PCT.

I would use M-Test or Cloma-Plex on cycle and PCT.

I would use Inhibit-E for PCT.

Personally, I have always used something for cortisol control for PCT. I like Reduce XT and Suppress-C both, but Reduce XT is always my go to for PCT. Most people think of Reduce XT now days as fat loss, but back in the old ph days, that's actually what Reduce XT was originally used for - to help maintain gains during PCT.
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I would agree with this as well. I always have cycle assist on deck for support supps.
 
bulldogger.spa said:
Why add M-Test during cycle when test will already be up from the andro supps?
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You may be classifying 'andro' supplements as all being alike, but some are very different.

For example, epiandrosterone works off of DHT and increasing natural testosterone levels can help a person get better results from it.

Basically, better results and hoping to avoid shutdown.

It wouldn't apply to someone running crazy high doses of or andro products where shutdown would be inevitable.
 
So M-Test would be the test base during the cycle?

Also, my understanding is I would need a SERM, would I still need the M-Test in PCT?
 
bulldogger.spa said:
So M-Test would be the test base during the cycle?

Also, my understanding is I would need a SERM, would I still need the M-Test in PCT?
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Yes to your first questions.

I can't speak for another brands products, but we sell a lot of Stano-Plex which is epiandro and people run it between 600 and 900 mg. per day and a serm is not needed.
 
bulldogger.spa said:
Also, my understanding is I would need a SERM, would I still need the M-Test in PCT?
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You don't need it but it definitely wouldn't hurt to turn it during PCT.
 
hercules_22 said:
"Natty" Recomp haha
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I didn't even catch that.

Definitely relevant for people reading to make sure they know that the Andro/Mandro products that he is referring to aren't natural products. Not that there's anything wrong with them as products, but wouldn't want someone to read and misunderstand and think that they are natural.
 
Natty recomp is M-Test, Recomp20, Inhibit-E for 12 weeks, and I was asking advice about the Andro/Mandro for after, just to clarify.
 
bulldogger.spa said:
Natty recomp is M-Test, Recomp20, Inhibit-E for 12 weeks, and I was asking advice about the Andro/Mandro for after, just to clarify.
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That's how I took it when I originally read it myself. Just wanted to make sure that others that may not know and are reading realized that the ones after weren't part of the natty part of it haha.
 
You will maybe be ok without a SERM but I wouldn't run it without at least having one. I probably would use it regardless and could get away with a pretty low dose for 2-3 weeks. I always would use a natural test booster with that and run that for like 8 weeks though so that I have something after the SERM is done.
 
Halfnattyman44 said:
You will maybe be ok without a SERM but I wouldn't run it without at least having one. I probably would use it regardless and could get away with a pretty low dose for 2-3 weeks. I always would use a natural test booster with that and run that for like 8 weeks though so that I have something after the SERM is done.
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Which SERM would you recommend and what dosage for the 2-3 weeks would you run it at?
 
bulldogger.spa said:
Are you saying the SERM isn't necessary and that M-Test will suffice?
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No I'm saying that for M-Test you don't need it during PCT but it definitely won't hurt. SERM is a requirement imo.
 
Hrodelbert77 said:
Was it not stated by the OP, natty recomp first then looking a using Andro/Mandro after that has been done..?
Im just trying to decipher what it was that you interpreted so differently?
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Oh good point I thought the OP was looking for supps to run during his 12 week natty recomp.
 
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