Pills or Pinnig

BFSanimal

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so i want so start a cycle soon but been bouncing around between a prohormone like sdrol or pinning test propionate. lot of guys on the team are inkecting and have been thinking of jumping on the wagon too. i havent done much research about test prop other than its quickly out of the system but it seems inkecting is more bang for the buck and im a broke college kid. my stregnth coach did it when he played ball and told me to take it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until the vial is gone. ive never heard of this so i guess what are your guys oppinions. pills or pin. and anyone else try this 2 week on 2 off?
 
Well if u don't mind it being illegal I would say pin. If it was me tho I would take about a good year or so researching before I did. It sounds like you don't have much knowledge about gear so you should really get a good understanding before you start down this road. Good luck.
 
i know a good bit about pro hormones but ya not as much on injectables. im feeling rushed cuz this is my last season but my coach is giving me the run down on what to do i just like multiple oppinions if i was to jump on board and inject
 
Honestly I don't like the sound of two weeks on two weeks off but I also don't know too much about inject. But there is alot of knowledgeable people that will probably be chiming in soon.
 
haha alrighty well besides the pain factor im not really worried about that. mainly keeping gains and staying safe
 
What sport? I would do a 3 weeks SD kicker and then run test E or C for 12-18 weeks, thats how i role. If you are gonna choose one for sports inject test.
BFSanimal said:
so i want so start a cycle soon but been bouncing around between a prohormone like sdrol or pinning test propionate. lot of guys on the team are inkecting and have been thinking of jumping on the wagon too. i havent done much research about test prop other than its quickly out of the system but it seems inkecting is more bang for the buck and im a broke college kid. my stregnth coach did it when he played ball and told me to take it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until the vial is gone. ive never heard of this so i guess what are your guys oppinions. pills or pin. and anyone else try this 2 week on 2 off?
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BFSanimal said:
haha alrighty well besides the pain factor im not really worried about that. mainly keeping gains and staying safe
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i would say a mix would be best actually provided you have access to LEGIT gear.....you can do injectable cycles with oral kickstarts (AAS or PH variety) or just do oral only cycles with some of the PH's and designers....the options would be limitless...you would not have enough time to do all the variations if you use both legal and not legal options.......
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
i would say a mix would be best actually provided you have access to LEGIT gear.....you can do injectable cycles with oral kickstarts (AAS or PH variety) or just do oral only cycles with some of the PH's and designers....the options would be limitless...you would not have enough time to do all the variations if you use both legal and not legal options.......
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ya i have until august to get all this in.
 
yo i used to play football do either. For a HEAVy bulk like oline dline tight end mike linebacker do a dbol kicker 3-4 weeks with test E or C for 12-18 weeks. For a mild bulk running back receiver DBs run an epistane kicker with test E or C for 12-18 weeks and then add it pstanz for 6 weeks like 6-12 at high doses. Test will give u more red blood cells for better endurance ive heard cyclists do test.
BFSanimal said:
ya i have until august to get all this in.
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Husker89 said:
yo i used to play football do either. For a HEAVy bulk like oline dline tight end mike linebacker do a dbol kicker 3-4 weeks with test E or C for 12-18 weeks. For a mild bulk running back receiver DBs run an epistane kicker with test E or C for 12-18 weeks and then add it pstanz for 6 weeks like 6-12 at high doses. Test will give u more red blood cells for better endurance ive heard cyclists do test.
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i play d-end i weigh 225 now and i need to stay fast. if i were to run injectables id rather just do it solo. also anyone else have knowledge of a 2 on 2 off cycle?
 
2 on 2 off? straight retarded with what we know today.
 
Haha I was trying to be a little less harsh. Still better than stacking five methyls like all the geniuses asking if monsterplexx was a good 'prohormone' to run for size.
 
yeah... you'd think with all the time we've had to research these, that there would be *less* stupid questions, LOL.
 
And less yellow people. My local supp shop sticks the liver care next to the ph's just so people know to take them. The problem is then that they think liver care is a good pct. oh well, you can only do so much.
 
*Sigh* I wish the manufactuers or shops would put inside (manuf) or attach/include a sheet explaning that the end-user needs to research what a true proper pct for these compounds is before using.
 
Or a picture of homer Simpson. 'want to know what you will look like on 60mgs of superdrol for two months? Like this. Yellow, bloated, and bald' but people will still do anything to get big in an irresponsible amount of time.
 
i dont know why he suggested it. he said that the 2 on you make gains oviously. 2 off your bdy recovers and helps keep those gains then start back up. just sounded like an extensive prohormone pulse to me. the he told me sorta made sense and he said you wont get suppressed but id never seen anyone else try this on here or anywhere else. that sorta tells me that its not a great thing to do but idk.
 
I used sustenon back when i was playing and loved it! Test is king man, just make sure you know about AI's and proper pct...
 
ManBeast said:
yeah... you'd think with all the time we've had to research these, that there would be *less* stupid questions, LOL.
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I'm one of the more intelligent folks I know, have done a lot of reading and still had/have a lot of stupid questions for you :)
 
RH2012 said:
yeah this 2 on 2 off crap came from people who require long term corticosteroid treatment are sometimes prescribed this dosing regimen to try and avoid complications involved with the use of these drugs. some genius thought this would apply to anabolics and bam, a new retarted cycle was born. lol
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it just seems like a pulse to me but why is it so stupid? i see its kind of like a hormonal rollercoaster but the gains would slower but and with you longer. idk really it looks like it could have merit theorectically, it really worked for him. less injury prone with slower gains? the 2 week off period is what im worried about. would your est levels be super suppressed or would they start to balance out again during the 2 weeks off. thats what my coach was basically getting at but idk if the science holds up to that.
 
Do some research from how and when to inject safely, to AI's and PCT. 2 on 2 off is phukin stupid. saying that wont suppress you in time is retarded. I cant believe what some coaches tell people...All they care about are themselves and improving the team.

Id go with test E 400-500mg splite in 2 injects a week (12-14wks)
Hdrol/Dbol kicker 4-5 weeks
aromasin/or arimidex from weeks 3-16wk
clomid weeks 16-20
HCG weeks 5-16

But you really need to research it yourself and find out everything you can about the dangers in using cause they def exist and the more your prepared for them the better off you ll be even if you dont experience any. Im not a big fan of pill alone for 2 reasons. Your liver hates them and so does your libido.
 
BFSanimal said:
when ran sus how long was your cycle, results, and did you run it alone.
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10 weeks, 25 lbs... Strong as an ox and alpha male all over the field... The whole "wrap up, but don't take them to the ground" thing, was not in my agenda...my attitude was see ball, kill ball, lol...
I would recommend the prop, however, now that I have taken it... Less of a roller coaster of hormones, when injecting eod....
 
evodrag said:
Do some research from how and when to inject safely, to AI's and PCT. 2 on 2 off is phukin stupid. saying that wont suppress you in time is retarded. I cant believe what some coaches tell people...All they care about are themselves and improving the team.

Id go with test E 400-500mg splite in 2 injects a week (12-14wks)
Hdrol/Dbol kicker 4-5 weeks
aromasin/or arimidex from weeks 3-16wk
clomid weeks 16-20
HCG weeks 5-16

But you really need to research it yourself and find out everything you can about the dangers in using cause they def exist and the more your prepared for them the better off you ll be even if you dont experience any. Im not a big fan of pill alone for 2 reasons. Your liver hates them and so does your libido.
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if im gonna inject i want to do it alone. i know the cycle is weird im just trying to figure out why. and do you really weigh 129?
 
RH2012 said:
like you just said its a hormonal rollercoaster. you will become shutdown and i dont see a benefit of walking around a few days without any testosterone in your system. also test prop's half life is like 2-3 days( not exact) so its still in your system the first week of the off period. your body will not retore test production in the second week. others here can explain the downside of this cycle better than i can.
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ya it would be a rollercoaster idk if he took something else during the off weeks maybe natural test or estrogen blocker. fuq maybe even a serm lol i dont think ill be going that route honestky im super curious at this point.

pillsRgood said:
10 weeks, 25 lbs... Strong as an ox and alpha male all over the field... The whole "wrap up, but don't take them to the ground" thing, was not in my agenda...my attitude was see ball, kill ball, lol...
I would recommend the prop, however, now that I have taken it... Less of a roller coaster of hormones, when injecting eod....
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you only take it once? and it was during season, geez did you hurt in ligaments. i have bad shoulders
 
BFSanimal said:
ya it would be a rollercoaster idk if he took something else during the off weeks maybe natural test or estrogen blocker. fuq maybe even a serm lol i dont think ill be going that route honestky im super curious at this point.

you only take it once? and it was during season, geez did you hurt in ligaments. i have bad shoulders
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Blew my knee out week 10, so that sucked, lol... Offseason def way to go
 
RH2012 said:
i'm not sayin you cant gain on a 2 on 2 off cycle cause test prop is some good stuff. probably my fav. but its like taken 2 steps forward and 1.5 steps back. why not keep stepping forward. if your gonna do it do it right. besides being shutdown sucks big time. i wouldn't want to feel like that every 2 weeks. your coach probably recomended it because he just doesn't know any better. it was probably popular back in the day when he tried it and thats what he still believes.
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alright what was your fav cycle length with prop. i was thinking about 10 weeks 150mg eod
 
BFSanimal said:
alright what was your fav cycle length with prop. i was thinking about 10 weeks 150mg eod
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150 eod is a lot!! I'd do about half that to start,,, get labs done precycle, during cycle and post cycle .... 10 weeks would be fine,,, maybe build up to that level,, but don't start there
 
BFSanimal said:
well i think im gonna inject. i liked prop for being my first injectable. was sus your first injectable pillsrgood?
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No, I was a complete dumb ass back in the day and did a deca only cycle for my first... Internet was not what it is today back in 2000 and i was a fool...
 
We all did dumb ****. 3 back to back cycles of sus-500, each cycled off with novadex xt. Then again I was a dumb kid and the guy at the supplement shop said it was a test booster, but I needed novadex after so I could keep my gains. *******.
 
Lmfao **** I'm glad I just now started with all this info
 
Airborne42 said:
Lmfao **** I'm glad I just now started with all this info
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Well I was 19 or 20 and doing really well naturally. I went from 260-175 on a cut to no longer be a fat kid, then bulked to a lean 205 naturally. I went in and asked the guy what was good for strength, since I was having trouble breaking a plateau. Hands me this bottle of mysterious **** and says its a test booster with confusing names for ingredients. Sad. I know he knew what it was.
 
grngoloco said:
150 eod is a lot!! I'd do about half that to start,,, get labs done precycle, during cycle and post cycle .... 10 weeks would be fine,,, maybe build up to that level,, but don't start there
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everyone is able to get labs all the time, how are you able to do this my insurance wont cover it.
 
BFSanimal said:
everyone is able to get labs all the time, how are you able to do this my insurance wont cover it.
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Invalid Link Removed order the female hormone panel,, you'll get a requisition number to take to labcorp. You can find an online promo code and get it for $50
 
If your worried about possibly getting tested for gear run prop for sure. Test E can be detected in your system for up to 3 months after you last injection. You should run Prop for at least 8-10 weeks
 
DNAMP said:
If your worried about possibly getting tested for gear run prop for sure. Test E can be detected in your system for up to 3 months after you last injection. You should run Prop for at least 8-10 weeks
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i knew prop was quick, how quick is test sus out of your system
 
BFSanimal said:
so im gonna drop l50 bucks to get all this work done. idk if i have that money
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It's your liver, your man boobs, your balls,, from everything I've read and know,, doing this stuff blind, using nothing but bro science can seriously backfire on you in a harmful way... in my opinion, if you can't afford labs, you can't afford to do steroids
 
grngoloco said:
It's your liver, your man boobs, your balls,, from everything I've read and know,, doing this stuff blind, using nothing but bro science can seriously backfire on you in a harmful way... in my opinion, if you can't afford labs, you can't afford to do steroids
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great point. that was pretty ignorant of me to say looking back now. if you were to tell your doctor you were going to take AAS, what procedures does your doctor go through? does he request bloodwork for you or just want you to come in after your cycle. guys that work with your doctors, whats the protocal here.
 
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