PH's and their relative heart/cardio risks

[Ziquor]

I was looking through some threads and figured this could be helpful for us, especially the newbs that flood the site constantly. I'd like eveyone to share their knowledge on the use of any popular PH (H-drol, S-Drol, P-Plex, Epi/Havoc, M1T, 1,4 Ad, etc) and any specific heart/cardio effects they may have. I think mostly everyone understands the BP and cholesterol issues that are there with mostly all hormones, I'm talking about the way certain PH's can bind to the AR (androgen receptors) in the heart. This is shown to possibly cause an enlarged heart, shortness of breath, left ventricle hypertrophy, and so on - sometime reversible, sometimes not. Any knowledge listed about which PH's pose this added risk and which do not would be great!

 

[Ziquor]

I got a little more info. Apparently Phera/clones (which are DMT/madol) have an affinity to bind to the hearts AR receptors. These have caused an enlarged heart + shortness of breath w/ lowered cardio ability in a lot of people and test subjects. Dr.D posted in a thread here that it should never be taken more than once a year for most people, or not at all for that matter for anyone with hypertension or any other heart abnormality (palpatations, rapid heart beat, etc). However I have talked to people who said that they took Phera & felt an improved cardio capacity. It seems as the PH's/gear that cause the worst cardio sides & in some cases irreversible, are ones that are the more androgenic hormones and/or ones that convert to DMT & DHT. Experienced users list your thoughts! Like - PH name... if/how it affected your cardio abilities, any other knowledge you have on it's cardio risks.

 

[matthew76]

I think they all have risk... The sad thing is that it is unknown because these compounds are not regulated.