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I've been using a doc prescribed compounded TRT cream with what I assume is terrible absorption, as my test levels budged only 70...

On another board it was suggested to me that I'd get much better results if I snag some Phlojel. This was the first time I'd heard of it. I've been reading up on it, and I'm not in the U.S. (8,000 miles away) - So I'm wanting to hear from a few others before I drop 60 bucks in shipping fees... Haha

So anyway, curious to hear others stories with Phlojel. Plus I understand some people just apply it on top of the original cream/gel and get better absorption, while others will compound a test base with the jel.

I ran across an old .pdf that gave compounding instructions, but before I jump through all those hoops, making sure this has the track-record.

Also, do you apply the phlojel the same way as other creams/gels? (Inner thighs, upper arms/shoulders, etc?)

Eager to find a solution, as I wasted a lot of money on the cream I have now. It's be freaking heaven if Phlojel is the answer!
 

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Not yet, the doc started me with the gel, but 2 months in and my test has only moved from 429 to 470. So my appointment to switch to injections is next week. In the meantime someone who had a similar experience as I recommened phlojel, so I'm definitely curious.
 

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DMSO would be cheaper from what I remember. Haven’t heard phlogel or dmso in years. But when fina was popular it was a popular topic. If I remember right dmso you apply before the product. Phlogel you could apply on top of product. DMSO will make you smell like garlic though. Lol
 

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DMSO would be cheaper from what I remember. Haven’t heard phlogel or dmso in years. But when fina was popular it was a popular topic. If I remember right dmso you apply before the product. Phlogel you could apply on top of product. DMSO will make you smell like garlic though. Lol
Garlic you say??? Huh... Well that's kind of a no-go then isn't it? haha - Crap. The posts I looked at from those using DMSO seem to confirm it can get pretty intense to the point it impacts their social life. lol Guess I better find a new carrier matrix.
 
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Stop being a wuss and just inject a Sub q needle
 

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Stop being a wuss and just inject a Sub q needle
Looks like you missed this part of my comment above: "my appointment to switch to injections is next week ". Doc agreed to make the switch after my latest bloods this coming week.

For the record, I'm not in the U.S., travel full time crossing into at least 11 countries each year, 2 of which have had serious issues in the past hassling my partner with his needles and vials. While I already have injections on the way, I need a backup in case I get caught for several months somewhere that hassles me over the needles an vials. Better safe than sorry as I feel like garbage. My cream has flown under the radar so far, better safe than sorry. Some T is better than none, but I want maximum absorption if I end up in a scenario where I have to fall back on it.

I already self inject HPC-157 and TB500 for healing, why would I care about just another sub-q?
 

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I've been using a doc prescribed compounded TRT cream with what I assume is terrible absorption, as my test levels budged only 70...

On another board it was suggested to me that I'd get much better results if I snag some Phlojel. This was the first time I'd heard of it. I've been reading up on it, and I'm not in the U.S. (8,000 miles away) - So I'm wanting to hear from a few others before I drop 60 bucks in shipping fees... Haha

So anyway, curious to hear others stories with Phlojel. Plus I understand some people just apply it on top of the original cream/gel and get better absorption, while others will compound a test base with the jel.

I ran across an old .pdf that gave compounding instructions, but before I jump through all those hoops, making sure this has the track-record.

Also, do you apply the phlojel the same way as other creams/gels? (Inner thighs, upper arms/shoulders, etc?)

Eager to find a solution, as I wasted a lot of money on the cream I have now. It's be freaking heaven if Phlojel is the answer!
If you’re going to spend the money to get Phlogel...then why not just buy Test Cyp instead and pin? Much more reliable than gels, creams, topicals. Trust me I known I started on Androgel and went to test cyp because androgel sucks.
 
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Just get some dmso from a local vet shop and put all your test cream in another container and add 10-15%dmso by volume to increase absorption. Can also add in some almond oil before the dmso to work as an emollient. Or you could literally just put some dmso in a spray bottle and hit clean skin on shoulders w dmso and then apply test. But i think mixing them together is best option. Been doing it for a long with my test cream when I was on it and dnp and exemestane/nolva and all kinds of stuff. Almost Doubled my test numbers w this option.
 
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Axiron is easiest w dmso, then androgel, then cream from compounding pharm. Testim shouldn't be used. If trying w testim make a 85% almond oil 15%dmso spray and spray on shoulders then put test on 2 min later.
 

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Just get some dmso from a local vet shop and put all your test cream in another container and add 10-15%dmso by volume to increase absorption. Can also add in some almond oil before the dmso to work as an emollient. Or you could literally just put some dmso in a spray bottle and hit clean skin on shoulders w dmso and then apply test. But i think mixing them together is best option. Been doing it for a long with my test cream when I was on it and dnp and exemestane/nolva and all kinds of stuff. Almost Doubled my test numbers w this option.
Is there a way to avoid the dreaded DMSO garlic breath? haha
 
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Man...take your faith in your own hands. Its YOUR body, damn it. You really think a guy with a white robe and a name tag knows more about your body than you do? If so, you are a total failure and Darwin was right. Why even post here?Cream? Cream what? Be a man and pin some test.
Seriously, what is wrong with you people?
You all use internet only for porn?
 

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Man...take your faith in your own hands. Its YOUR body, damn it. You really think a guy with a white robe and a name tag knows more about your body than you do? If so, you are a total failure and Darwin was right. Why even post here?Cream? Cream what? Be a man and pin some test.
Seriously, what is wrong with you people?
You all use internet only for porn?

---SIGH ---- Another keyboard warrior who forgot that the formula is "read first, post second"... haha - Before you resort to ad hominem, it might be best to understand the situation before you make yourself look foolish, or like a "complete failure" to take a page out of your book.... I already posted:

"my appointment to switch to injections is next week ". Doc agreed to make the switch after my latest bloods this coming week."

And before you flip out wondering WHY I am asking about creams since I am pinning as of next week, I'll direct you to the above comments which contain the answer to that as well... My own well-being, and unique circumstances.

What's wrong with people these days indeed... lol Calm down and read. hehe
 
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If you’re going to spend the money to get Phlogel...then why not just buy Test Cyp instead and pin? Much more reliable than gels, creams, topicals. Trust me I known I started on Androgel and went to test cyp because androgel sucks.
I will be on injections beginning next week. But due to my full time traveling, I need a backup to the needles if I run into problems at immigration. (Already seen it happen twice to my partner) - Bottles on the other hand? Never a peep. So these are my backups if my test gets pulled. But if I do need to use the cream, I want something that actually absorbs unlike what the doc gave me. I know Phlogel is a bit pricey, but worth it to me if I end up having to use it for a few months, as when my levels drop, my concentration/focus/energy all drops to the basement. Can't have that. Really hoping the injections are as good as advertised, I'll know shortly. Looking forward to it.
 
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---SIGH ---- Another keyboard warrior who forgot that the formula is "read first, post second"... haha - Before you resort to ad hominem, it might be best to understand the situation before you make yourself look foolish, or like a "complete failure" to take a page out of your book.... I already posted:

"my appointment to switch to injections is next week ". Doc agreed to make the switch after my latest bloods this coming week."

And before you flip out wondering WHY I am asking about creams since I am pinning as of next week, I'll direct you to the above comments which contain the answer to that as well... My own well-being, and unique circumstances.

What's wrong with people these days indeed... lol Calm down and read. hehe
Yes, sorry for that, I read only the first post.

Okay, here what I do when traveling like you do. There are two ways -or a mixture of both (no doctors involved):
1)Test undecanoate, load it up (depot) before traveling. Half life is around 14 days. Day of traveling: 1200mg. This way you may have TRT blood levels for about 3 weeks after injection.
2)TD Trestolone (example: TR3ST -olympus labs). Trest substitutes Test perfectly. Just buy it and apply it while traveling. Can be disguised as shampoo or vape liquid, smells like a perfume.

Here a tool for half life calculations:
https://roidcalc.powerbody.ru/?langid=8

You can play around with a mixture of esters before traveling. Please be aware that the longer HL an ester has, more mg is needed to achieve the same blood serum levels than shorter esters. The calculator does not show the correct results for blood serum (it shows a bit too much for long esters).

Edit: Dose AI accordingly. Undecanoate peaks a week after pinning, I would do something like that:
Day1 (injection 1.2gr)
Day2 0.5mg adex
Day5 1mg adex
Day7/9/11 0.5mg adex
After that 0.5mg e4d
 
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Not yet, the doc started me with the gel, but 2 months in and my test has only moved from 429 to 470. So my appointment to switch to injections is next week. In the meantime someone who had a similar experience as I recommened phlojel, so I'm definitely curious.
Wow my test levels are about 50, wish they were 429.
 
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