Pheraplex + Halodrol-50 ?

Palmerfit

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Wondering if a Pheraplex and Halodrol-50 clone will achieve results close to what the original Halo produced?
Yes, no, and alternatives?
 
? ??Halodrol is Halodrol. They have the same chemical structure.... If it is a ligit clone they will be the same.
If you have Pplex, why would you bother stacking it with Hdrol. Pplex is awesome on its own.
 
Palmerfit said:
Wondering if a Pheraplex and Halodrol-50 clone will achieve results close to what the original Halo produced?
Yes, no, and alternatives?
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This your first cycle???Definitely don't run two methylated compounds if it is, especially something like pheraplex. Just run halo alone and you'll gain plenty. What's your plan for cycle support and pct? If I were you I would run halo for 6 weeks, 4 weeks is a waste usually.
 
Unless hes talking about Gaspari Halodrol Liquid Gels?
Gaspari changed ingredients around 2007?, due to pressure from the FDA.
The new version Gels were natty ingredients that failed to perform like their original.

OG version 4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Androst-1,4-Diene-3-17b-Diol

New version Arachidonic Acid (40% in a proprietary fatty acid/oil blend), Peak ATP adenosine-5-triphosphate disodium salt, LJ100 tongkat ali extract (standardized for 22% eurypeptides, 40% glycosaponins), sodium alpha lipoic acid, -(-)3,4-divanillytetrahydrofuran, zinc monomethionine

Both versions have been discontinued
 
I heard the controversy with Gasparis second(or third?) release of Halodrol - the missing compound, was it dmt? I read on another forum someone boasted about achieving the same "makeup" by taking H with P.. Wanted to clarify. What comes close these days?

A close friend swears by Brawn.. Not sure about these guys as I haven't come close to finding legitimate cycle reviews and results online.

FDA killed it.
 
Well from what i heard that the original halodrol-50 was tbol and phera. The tbol was a mistake tho and that they actually tried to make hdrol. However back then hdrol was super hard to synthesis and they accidentally ended up with tbol and phera. Even tho the phera wasn't an accident.
 
"Accidental Phera" Can we have another round of this Gaspari?

Recommended stacks? Seems like any Halo clone by itself is a wasted process..
Any legit proof that SARMS are more than just a marketing tool to make up for what we lack in the supp industry?
 
What brand is the boasting the most accurate route to HDrol today? I may or may not have dropped Brawn Nutrition into the mix earlier - I've been offered their Epi and Tren by a friend but unsure..
 
Back then anything could have been in your supplements......mind you whats changed?

Just found a box of OG IDS Sostonal in my stash...thinks its Phera/Hdrol? and something else?. Doubt I will ever use it, will keep it though just in case..
Did anyone ever try it and survive?

Proprietary Blend:3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene 3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone 17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan 80000 mcg
 
ironranger Shoot me a message when you do use it, keen to hear your thoughts and see your results! Interesting that at least one person still has the big stuff!
Do you know how EPI stacks up against Halo? Obviously different paths here.. But for dry gains what're my best options? I hope my liver loves it as much as my muscles
 
Palmerfit said:
ironranger Shoot me a message when you do use it, keen to hear your thoughts and see your results! Interesting that at least one person still has the big stuff!
Do you know how EPI stacks up against Halo? Obviously different paths here.. But for dry gains what're my best options? I hope my liver loves it as much as my muscles
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Unfortunately I was a non-responder when it came to Epistane. I know a lot of others on this forum got good results with it....I guess horses for courses...courses for horses..
 
ironranger said:
Back then anything could have been in your supplements......mind you whats changed?

Just found a box of OG IDS Sostonal in my stash...thinks its Phera/Hdrol? and something else?. Doubt I will ever use it, will keep it though just in case..
Did anyone ever try it and survive?

Proprietary Blend:3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene 3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone 17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan80000 mcg
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I used it, it was crap.
 
Ya and if my nomenclature reading is good (which it isn't but ill try any ways) you have hdrol DMT 1test(which is weird because its not orally active) and methylDHT in only 80mgs you want be getting a good dose of any of the ingredients.
 
You can't go off that, it's just hdrol and dmt supposedly but it was garbage. The ingredients were written like that to feign ignorance
 
Just got this today amongst the jungle of protein this and that - really digging the enthusiastic quotes that are splattered on every tub.
Anyway, Urban Muscle, from yours truly "Australia" with a 5 protein blend - guaranteed goals! Right..? We'll see!
Sorry I can't post links yet but Urban Muscle have a website with everything you need to know
 
jbryand101b said:
You can't go off that, it's just hdrol and dmt supposedly but it was garbage. The ingredients were written like that to feign ignorance
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I was wrong there isn't 4 but there definitely is 3. Every time you see Etioallcholan(way out dated term btw. It should be 5-androsten) has to be a new compound because that CANNOT occur twice in the same compound. It just doesn't work that way.

3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene(HDROL)

3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone(DMT)

17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan(methylDHT)
 
rtmilburn said:
I was wrong there isn't 4 but there definitely is 3. Every time you see Etioallcholan(way out dated term btw. It should be 5-androsten) has to be a new compound because that CANNOT occur twice in the same compound. It just doesn't work that way.

3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene(HDROL)

3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone(DMT)

17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan(methylDHT)
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Hdrol has 1,4 ene molecule. And is not 5a reduced. You can't have 4ene and 5a. It could be possibly pmag if it wasnt listed a 5a androgen.

Dmt is 5alpha reduced so the delta 4 bond shouldn't be there. Also can't have delta 4 (4ene) with 5a. Doesn't have a 3 hydroxy either. Dmt is delta 2

Dht should have 3 keto group, dmt does not.

etioallocholan = 5a-androst


Like I said, it's just a bunch of nomenclatures inaccurately thrown together and mean nothing.
 
jbryand101b said:
Hdrol has 1,4 ene molecule. And is not 5a reduced. You can't have 4ene and 5a. It could be possibly pmag if it wasnt listed a 5a androgen.

Dmt is 5alpha reduced so the delta 4 bond shouldn't be there. Also can't have delta 4 (4ene) with 5a. Doesn't have a 3 hydroxy either. Dmt is delta 2

Dht should have 3 keto group, dmt does not.

etioallocholan = 5a-androst


Like I said, it's just a bunch of nomenclatures inaccurately thrown together and mean nothing.
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After looking over it more and some researching. Im pretty sure your right and that would make a lot more senses with these funky nomenclatures.
Etioallcholan = 5a-androst(true but Etioallcholan is out dated). Like i said im not very good at this. So my bad.
 
We've crunched a lot of overly long and complicated words here gentlemen.. So much so that I think I'll just take Osta Shred for a whirl. I'll keep a blog of it
 
Okay after much back and forth and a few face palms I'm going to hit a Osta Shred + Anafuse stack.

Still weighing up on Epi though.. Seems to good to miss but maybe I'll save that one for a seperate stack, let's see what these two get me alone for now.

If you have experience on a similar stack feel free to chip in here. Stats. Tips. Better stacks. You know!
 
Epistane is one of those you absolutely love or are a non-responder to it. Atleast that what it seems to be from what i have read. Never used it tho
 
Leave it in a hot car for a few days and you may end up with Pplex lol.


There was debate years ago with PA sugesting Epistane breaks down under heat to the steroid DMT/Pplex
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
I ran both. It's a lie, og h50 was just that, or perhaps oralturnibol. Point being real pplex killed my liver like nothing else and the strength and pornstar qualities are unmistakable
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da main man:
I thought the Gaspari product was found to be like half Phera(DMT)?

my apologies if incorrect/misinformed


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Patrick Arnold:
back in the day i tested it and thats exactly what i found. then a few months later an article appeared in washington post that had testing results from don catlin and it confirmed what i had found

but this was years and years ago and is pretty irrelevant info today
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Hmmm....
 
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