Phera Plex Plan for 1st Timer---Please Critique

rocknroll said:
Sorry I have been away for awhile. I started a new job...busy busy.

Sharia-I gained about 15 pounds on PP the first time.

I will be starting my 2nd PP tonight (11/27). Not sure how I will run.

Will probably do 10/20/20/30.

Poppy, how are you doing Bro?
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Hey Bro, How are you? I am well. I was going to start my methylplex cycle but decided to put a hold on it until my blood pressures drops. Its around 147/90. I am taking celery seed with hawthorn pills to help bring it down. When it gets down to 130/70 I will do my cycle.
 
Alls well---only problem is i cant seem to find PP !!!!
I thought i had a place with stock but was told last week its out. Got preloaded about 2 weeks ago so im ready to go....ill let u know how the "search" goes:rant:
 
Sharia said:
Hey Bro, How are you? I am well. I was going to start my methylplex cycle but decided to put a hold on it until my blood pressures drops. Its around 147/90. I am taking celery seed with hawthorn pills to help bring it down. When it gets down to 130/70 I will do my cycle.
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why is your bp so high? Those are bad numbers man.
 
poppydogg said:
Alls well---only problem is i cant seem to find PP !!!!
I thought i had a place with stock but was told last week its out. Got preloaded about 2 weeks ago so im ready to go....ill let u know how the "search" goes:rant:
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Poppy, have you started/found yet? Good luck.

I'm on day 5. Going OK. Busy time of year. Not feeling as focused as last cycle with diet and workouts.
 
pistonpump said:
why is your bp so high? Those are bad numbers man.
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Tell me about it men. I have been using the BP monitor at my local grocery store. My family has a history of high bp and I dont know why mine is so high beig that I watch what I eat. I am going to buy a bp monitor and test it myself, do more cardio, and keep on taking my Apple cider Vinegar. I bought some celery seed but that did not help. It did not have any percentage of 3nb written on the bottle so I doubled my dosage and it still didnt work. Tonight I will buy one with the 3nb hopefully that will work.
 
ken25 said:
i just have a quick question. how many hrs apart are you guys dosing pp on 20mg days?
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8-12 hours apart, what does your day's schedule look like? when do you workout? morning midday evening?
 
Hi ALL....i plan on starting in about a week or so. Mom passed away about 10 days ago and its been a rough dec so far. Hopefully all gets back to norm this week as i just got back to work today.
 
pistonpump said:
8-12 hours apart, what does your day's schedule look like? when do you workout? morning midday evening?
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wake up at 10am, be to work at 1030am and work til 630pm. my workouts are in the evening, 7-8pm. i usually stay up til 1am. i've heard 8hrs and i have heard 12. wouldn't it make more sense to take at 12hrs for stable levels?
 
ken25 said:
wake up at 10am, be to work at 1030am and work til 630pm. my workouts are in the evening, 7-8pm. i usually stay up til 1am. i've heard 8hrs and i have heard 12. wouldn't it make more sense to take at 12hrs for stable levels?
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you eat breakfast dont you? well eat breakfast take one pill with it.

Do you eat meals at work anytime? If so then i would recommend you taking you 2nd pill 1.5-2 hours before working out.

so generally speaking 1 dose 10am next dose 6pm that's 8 hours. Not sure if that helps but sounds good to me.
 
poppydogg said:
Hi ALL....i plan on starting in about a week or so. Mom passed away about 10 days ago and its been a rough dec so far. Hopefully all gets back to norm this week as i just got back to work today.
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VERY sorry to hear that news poppy. VERY sorry Bro. Hang in.
 
pistonpump said:
you eat breakfast dont you? well eat breakfast take one pill with it.

Do you eat meals at work anytime? If so then i would recommend you taking you 2nd pill 1.5-2 hours before working out.

so generally speaking 1 dose 10am next dose 6pm that's 8 hours. Not sure if that helps but sounds good to me.
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thanks piston.
 
Hey Poppydogg- What did you PCT with last time? Did you ever use Nolva? Retain? Fenu? DHEA? And did it go OK?
 
i used retain, pct and had the nolva on hand. I didnt use the nolva so i got away with it without any problems. I of course used all the support supps too and wound up fine. The libido slowly came back gradually and it was fine. No sides as i said before to mention. Did u do another cycle? I never started another one yet but i am gonna probably in a few weeks. Anyone here of mass fx from anabolic xtreme? I heard good stuff on it and im thinking maybe to do this instead. Thanks happy new year dude !
 
For post cycle therapy, Toremifene makes everything else obsolete and so last year. Absolutely incredable fast recovery. You are mostly recovered in 3 days. I tapered the torem into NHA cycle last time.
 
Werewolf said:
For post cycle therapy, Toremifene makes everything else obsolete and so last year. Absolutely incredable fast recovery. You are mostly recovered in 3 days. I tapered the torem into NHA cycle last time.
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what doses?
 
poppydogg said:
i used retain, post cycle therapy and had the nolva on hand. I didnt use the nolva so i got away with it without any problems. I of course used all the support supps too and wound up fine. The libido slowly came back gradually and it was fine. No sides as i said before to mention. Did u do another cycle? I never started another one yet but i am gonna probably in a few weeks. Anyone here of mass fx from anabolic xtreme? I heard good stuff on it and im thinking maybe to do this instead. Thanks happy new year dude !
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I did another PP/pheradrol cycle (my second) but the PCT isn't going as smooth as before. I'm having some bilateral flank back pain/aches and possibly some nipple sensitivity although I am not sure. (I shaved my chest hair down a bit for cosmetic reasons and that might be causing chest itchyness...I'm paranoid though. I have Nolva on hand but I am trying to avoid using it. With my flank pain I am nervous about my kidneys and liver and therefore the hesitation to take the Nolva. Had a blood test, urinalysis last week and doc said he would let me know if there was anything abnormal. I haven't heard from him so....we will see. I also had a CTScan but that was Friday afternoon (today is Sunday) so we will see. Doc said I won't hear anything from him if all is normal. I am concerned that my pain is NOT musculoskeletal but something internal. Again, hence the learyness about taking Nolva.

I am taking Restore and Alpha Drive right now for PCT...
 
Well i hope all goes well with the tests rock.
Yea i skipped the nova first time as i had no need for it thank god. We will see whenever i start the 2nd round:wave:
 
poppydogg said:
Well i hope all goes well with the tests rock.
Yea i skipped the nova first time as i had no need for it thank god. We will see whenever i start the 2nd round:wave:
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Itchiness has almost disappeared today. Starting to feel better. Have been taking Restore and just began Alpha Drive with it. Not sure if one or both are main reason I am feeling better but I have to believe there is some contribution.
I wish I would've just started the Nolva right at the end of this cycle like I did the first time on PP. But I was traveling right at the beginning of PCT and was nervous to take liquid through airport security...
 
Yea i hear ya about going thru with the liquid. You never know whatll happen nowadays. Good to hear your feeling better somewhat rock. Good luck
 
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