swole210 said:Man, I am getting confused as hell!! i feel like a little kid at ToysR' Us or some huge toy store..LOL!! I want to get some of everything, just to have it and try at some point. Fini...Mega-ZOl..Mega-TRN......I WANT IT ALLLL!!!!:twisted: I'm such a supp whore..LOL!!
diplomats said:DAY 48: Update, well folk this has been a good cycle. I dropped the Phera-plex lastweek and i have been doing MDHT 45-60mg daily. I have also dropped back down to 192, but trust me, it a lean, vsacular, hard 192.
Before -------------------------------------------After
biceps 17 inches -------------------------------18.50 Inches
shoulders 50 inches -----------------------------53 Inches (YES I LOVE IT)
thigh 23 inches ---------------------------------26 Inches
chest 45 inches-------------------------------- 47.25 Inches
waist 33 inches---------------------------------- 32 Inches
calves 16 inches------------------------------- 16.50 Inches
weight: 174---------------------------------------- 192 lbs
I made mad gains on my shoulders because i was training them twice a week, with superset, drop sets, and sometimes pre-exhaustion. My goal is to get to 55inches b4 DECEMBER.
Smallone said:Dude.....you are my HERO! HOLY CRAP! I am new to this board but you're my inspiration for trying my first cycle. I'm trying the PP/Fini and am excited to see how it goes. I'm doing 10/20/20/20 on the PP and 6-12ml on the fini just to make sure all goes well since I'm still a virgin. Today's my first day and I plan on keeping a log like yours. VERY nice job on the detail. I don't expect to see results like you since I'm 35 but anything from where I am now will be a nice change. I've learned so much from you and everyone else on here that I'm sure I can somehow be successful. Just finished my first Superman shake (chewing the last bit of oats now) and was pleasantly surprised. Keep up the good work and good luck finding clothes that'll fit! DAMN!!!!
Smallone said:Dude.....you are my HERO! HOLY CRAP! I am new to this board but you're my inspiration for trying my first cycle. I'm trying the PP/Fini and am excited to see how it goes. I'm doing 10/20/20/20 on the PP and 6-12ml on the fini just to make sure all goes well since I'm still a virgin. Today's my first day and I plan on keeping a log like yours. VERY nice job on the detail. I don't expect to see results like you since I'm 35 but anything from where I am now will be a nice change. I've learned so much from you and everyone else on here that I'm sure I can somehow be successful. Just finished my first Superman shake (chewing the last bit of oats now) and was pleasantly surprised. Keep up the good work and good luck finding clothes that'll fit! DAMN!!!!
TKE-PBOY said:Hey Dip you should start your own fan club or something,lol. Mad props to you dip, you big mofu!! That a way to come out from a depression.
diplomats said:Okay fellas i am not sure what day of the cycle this is, but i know i have two more weeks left. Few things that have been happening
I will definetly have pictures when it is all said and done in about two weeks, since i just bought a digital camera, so guys make sure you check them out in two weeks, i will definetly need you comments.
- i have started X-factor as of today, will be running it for about 8 weeks, along with NHA stack which i will be starting in a week.
- I am still running Mdt at 60mg daily, here is what i have experienced in the short time that i have been using it MAD VASCULARITY (scares the crap at of me) FAT LOSS (fuk yeah) I have gained 2 pounds, and the most amazing effect MADDDD STRENGTH, i love MDHT i am happy that i still have enough for a cutting cycle.
thanks again for checkin my log. Oh guys i need some rep points common with it ;-)
diplomats said:Okay first of all i dont mind answering any question any time, because i still am the newbie that ask a **** load of questions when i need to reseach something. If you dont ask you will never know.
Training might have to change a little bit bro, here is what i would suggest.
Monday: Incline Bench, Decline bench, Incline flyes. (5 sets and reps should fail at the 8 rep, 5 sets involve 2 warm ups and stretching and 3 working sets)
Tuesday: OFF
Wednesday: Squats, Leg press, Hack Squats (5 sets and reps should fail at the 8 rep, 5 sets involve 2 warm ups and stretching and 3 working sets)
Thursday: Barbell curls, Incline curls, preacher dumbell curls (same set as above). Skull Crusher, close grip, pushdown.
Friday: OFF
Saturday: Deadlifts, Chin-ups, Barbell rows (deads stay at 4 sets 12 reps)
Sunday: Shoulder press, sidelaterals, front raise.
follow this format and you will see good improvements.
Smallone said:Are you trying to give me a heart attack? I'm old! How am I gonna handle that kind of workout? :blink:
Actually it looks pretty good. I'll start doing it and see what happens. Questions about the routine would be:
What about fatigue or overtraining?
Will it 'tax' my nervous system and slow gains or is the PP/Fini enough to keep me going every day?
Any flat bench, abs, or calf raises?
How much time do you take between sets?
i wanna blow bro, i have been trying to blow for the longest. But i am doing x-factor from the last 2 weeks of the cycle all up to 6 weeks PCTmiked512 said:BASTARD!!!!!
YOU STOLE MY IDEA!!!!! lol, x-factor during the rest of your cycle.You're going to explode. I might just postpone my next cycle so I can run it with the next x-factor.
Then I can steal all of your fans even though, I know I wouldn't post nearly as frequently so you don't have anything to worry about as far as thats concerned.
diplomats said:Fatique? you are only doing 15 sets Max on most of the exercises, you have two days off, and i already told you to try and get enough sleep, and the cycle will help with the fatigue as it will blunt cortisol. you should do calves three time a week if it is your weak spot. Let me know if you have any more questions i will be happy to help.
diplomats said:i wanna blow bro, i have been trying to blow for the longest. But i am doing x-factor from the last 2 weeks of the cycle all up to 6 weeks PCT
You aint stealing ****, i knock you tha fuk out homie, Lol just jokin, bro this MDHT has me wired tha fuk up.
Smallone said:OK. You were right. Did your workout today and it went very well. I don't think it's too taxing and I kinda liked the routine. Mind if I throw in some shrugs on this day?
Couple more ??? and I'll really try to leave you alone. I've started a log and will be posting that soon so maybe I can ask more questions in that thread.
I currently take in about 3500-4000 cal a day (I'm 6' 200). Soooooo.....
What do you suggest for cals for my 'off' days?
Do you take the PP/Fini on 'off' days?
What's the real advantage to taking in 3500 cals and 350 proteins if you aren't working out that day?
Once again thanks for your time!
Truck 44 said:hey diplomats, how much do you think the MDHT has boosted your strength?
Thanks
tiger74 said:Hey Diplomat great gains bro, awesome back build. Ive read your log and was impressed by your gains . I need some advice on my new cycle ill be doing in a couple of weeks
I currently just stocked up on 3 bottles of sd and pp as i dont think they'll be around much longer and i also still have 2 bottles of 1-ad and 1 240ml bottle of transdermal 4-ad left.
i have done about 3 previous 1-test/4-ad transdermal cycles and 2 test cypionate cycles between 2003-2004.
current stats are :
31 yrs old 190lbs @ 5'-11" @ 12% bf
Im looking to add as much muscle/strength as possible without adding an noticible fat since summer is coming soon.help me design a few good cycles with what i have left ...thanx
p.s. If any body else has any recommendations i will gladly like to hear them.
miked512 said:So I see the MDHT has you wired up.
HA HA, I'm stealing the fans, your girl, and last but not least, your entire supp stash. You better sleep with one eye open. I'm sending a bunch of ninjas your way. :woohoo:
diplomats said:Yes i take the finigenx on off days, you have to take it 7 days a week. The benefits of taking in 3500 calories and 350grms of protein is because you repair and grow on off and resting days.
PA says it does...Apowerz6 said:I repeat, once again I repeat Halodrol has no DMT in it
Apowerz6 said:I repeat, once again I repeat Halodrol has no DMT in it, and since when has 1 ad been similiar to tren? Not to hijack your thread Diplo, i think you should do a nice little thing called a search to find out which compounds to stock up on... As each compound has diff effects and you need to know exactly what each one does or mimics before you hop on anything...
handzilla said:Good to see that you're getting good, lean, hard gains despite the depression. I myself am in the midst of a one. The good ol' girlfriend was causing me all sorts of stress the last 2 weeks of my cycle. We broke up this past Sunday, my third day of PCT. :nutkick:I was 194lbs in the 4th week of the cycle but now I'm down to a measly 186. :frustrate
Smallone said:You rock. Thanks again for the info. Your log has been very helpful from a newbie standpoint. Lots of people have replied and they've contributed some good information. This thread has it all! Action, information, humor, romance, and suspense (with the baby scare thing). I've started my own log titled PP/Fini Cycle Log of a Novice.
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Stop in every now and then and see how the progress is going!
tiger74 said:Diplomat i know that 4-ad is basicly test , which is more androgenic and 1-ad is similar to Tren which is more anabolic but what is pheraplex related too as i read it is more androgenic than superdrol is more anabolic?
I also dont know much about mega-trn or haladrol which i read has dmt in it. but im looking to pick up some more stuff soon before everything is banned to have for later. Can you give me an idea what else is a good to stock up on. thanx
jOn_E_QuEsT said:Dam dips! thats some crazy gains yo! i might have to try a cycle like that soon! first i gotta finish my pct. btw, my bad since i been out of comission from posting due to work but i've been keeping up on the "diplomatic process" Good to hear everythings good w/the girlie and the lifts!:head:
Highlanda01602 said:Whoa dip, you freakin mad man..... 3 INCHES on the shouders..... i love it dude
hearing your crazy success with PP makes me want to do another cycle with it..... i was tempted to try SD in my next cycle in a few months, but i think ill go man-ram again with some Fini/PP..... i felt nuts on that **** and strength gains were consistant in the last 3 weeks of the cycle
reading this wants me to start my cycle NOW too...hahah im gettin all jittery reading this and knowing i have to wait a few more months
by the way big man- what is MDHT(or something of similiar spelling that you just started taking)?
all in all bro- solid cycle man.... havnt checked in in a while cause ive been off at college and real busy and ****.... but real good to see how you bounced back- AND THEN SOMEEEEE aha
diplomats said:DAMMNNN dude where the hell have you been???so you have been secretly training and supplementing, so you can get ahead off all of us huh, you fuker!!ha ha ha dude i am just joking, he good to have you back bro, so how is everthing going?
jOn_E_QuEsT said:whattup dips! yeah man, i`m secretly training :twisted: to try to catch up w/everyone esp. you dog! some crazy gains you got man:blink: . You got me thinking about buying some Finigen so i can stack it w/the PP sometime!! Dam my wallet is gonna be more broke than ever!!:rant:
well as for me, I`m actually trying to figure out my next cycle w\EgroMax LMG, Prostan, and the Generic Labz version of Prostan. I got a few ideas about this but just out of curiousity, how would you run this cycle?
Smallone said:DAMN DiPs!!! Yer arms are crazy big! That's unnatural. I think you and I should do some sort of arm for arm swap! I think I need your cycle. I'm one week into my PP/Fini cycle, I'm following your suggested workout, I'm eating very well and NO cheating and all I've managed to do is gain 5lbs of fat! :blink: What's up with that?!?!?!?! You should be happy with your genetics. Keep up the good work Dude! You look massive!!!
Smallone said:Didn't seem right to me either but the numbers all appear to add up. Attached is a piece from my log along with my entire diet for the week. Feedback would be great. I used the same scale for my starting measurement and the end of the week measurement. Weighed twice to be sure. I had to attach the following in 2 files since the board wouldn't let me send it in one. I broke it down showing exactly what I ate Mon-Sat. This is my first week's log of the foods I ate. A little more info on it includes the fact that I start eating about 8 in the morning and finish about 9 or so at night. 6 meals. Foods are in the order that I ate them. I have my workouts about 1 hour after the 'protein oatmeal shake' (which is a superman shake without the oil). The myoplex mixed with a scoop of ON whey and occasional dextrose are my post workout shakes. Meals are approx 8, 10:30, 1, 3:30, 6, 8:30. Little to no carbs after 7PM. I haven't been doing much if any cardio and I have a desk job.
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Smallone said:It doesn't work? Wierd. Works good from here. It's just a Word document and it should open in the browser window. Hmmmmmm.......well. My cardio has been pretty much non existent for the past week. That could be part of it. My diet consists of the following. Here's an average day.
8:00 - Big 100 bar, 1 scoop ON whey protein
10:30 - Oatmeal shake (superman shake without the oil and banana)
12:00 - Workout
1:00 - Myoplex shake, 1 scoop ON whey, sometimes 5-8 teaspoons of Dextrose added
3:30 - 6-7oz Grilled chicken breast, 1 cup wheat spaghetti
6:00 - 6-7oz Grilled chicken breast (or 2 cans tuna in water), 1 cup wheat spaghetti
8:30 - 1 cup no fat cottage cheese, 4-6oz raw apple
9:30 - bedtime
Typical calories are 3250-3600 a day. Other substitutions or additions to the above foods would be Muscle Milk, 1 tablespoon of Adams PB or Olive Oil, broccoli, corn, and a Pure Protein bar occasionally. My mix of Pro/Carb/Fat has been between 45/37/18 to 40/40/20 to even 47/37/16 for the week.
More cardio? Less carbs or fats?