phenogen update?

[Forster]

Any ball park figure when phenogen will be back? :think:

Thanks

 

[ShadowJack]

Posted by Par over at Avant's board:

so when's phenogen gunna be purchaseable

I'm not sure. We had a raw material sourcing issue, which I thought we had gotten around, but I cannot get confirmation/a straight answer from them, so it may be 3-4 weeks.

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[psywzrd]

Well I just cancelled my order for Phenogen after I heard they're replacing the Sesathin with green tea extract. What a waste!!! The whole reason I wanted the Phenogen was because of the Sesathin. I can get GTE anywhere.

 

[Mr.50]

Your not serious!!!!! Are they really replacing the Sesathin with Green Tea extract?????? I really had a great cutting run a few weeks ago with Phenogen, I can't believe they are changing the formula. I guess it is back to waiting around for MP.

Well I just cancelled my order for Phenogen after I heard they're replacing the Sesathin with green tea extract. What a waste!!! The whole reason I wanted the Phenogen was because of the Sesathin. I can get GTE anywhere.

 

[Kerruptt]

Your not serious!!!!! Are they really replacing the Sesathin with Green Tea extract?????? I really had a great cutting run a few weeks ago with Phenogen, I can't believe they are changing the formula. I guess it is back to waiting around for MP.

Green Tea effects PPAR-Alpha similar to Sesathin (it's on avant's board if you want the study), besides the dose in Phenogen was low before anyway.

 

[Mr.50]

I guess you are right, but I was taking 12 Phenogen caps per day.

Green Tea effects PPAR-Alpha similar to Sesathin (it's on avant's board if you want the study), besides the dose in Phenogen was low before anyway.

 

[psywzrd]

Green Tea effects PPAR-Alpha similar to Sesathin (it's on avant's board if you want the study), besides the dose in Phenogen was low before anyway.

That may be true but the amount of Sesathin per serving in Phenogen was the same as the amount per serving in Sesathin itself. I'm not doubting the effects of Green Tea but I could have added Green Tea myself instead of having it replace the Sesathin. It's a moot point to me now anyway because I ordered 4 bottles of Sesathin, but I was really looking forward to trying the Phenogen with the Sesathin in it.

I'm sure they're only doing it because of the problems they're having getting the raw but it's definitely a bummer.

 

[Par Deus]

That may be true but the amount of Sesathin per serving in Phenogen was the same as the amount per serving in Sesathin itself. I'm not doubting the effects of Green Tea but I could have added Green Tea myself instead of having it replace the Sesathin. It's a moot point to me now anyway because I ordered 4 bottles of Sesathin, but I was really looking forward to trying the Phenogen with the Sesathin in it.

I'm sure they're only doing it because of the problems they're having getting the raw but it's definitely a bummer.

Phenogen had half as much SesaThin as the stand-alone SesaThin.

You can still use Phenogen with SesaThin by using the standalone or SesaLean.

We are actually trying to get one last run of the version with sesathin done, but it is also being held up by one of the raws as mentioned.

 

[psywzrd]

Phenogen had half as much SesaThin as the stand-alone SesaThin.

You can still use Phenogen with SesaThin by using the standalone or SesaLean.

We are actually trying to get one last run of the version with sesathin done, but it is also being held up by one of the raws as mentioned.

My bad Par. I was going off the supp facts listed on a site that sells your products but you would certainly know better than me. I know you mentioned that you might come out with another version of Phenogen down the road that has Sesathin in it again and I think that's a great idea.

 

[Bigg E]

Anything new on when it will be back in stock?

 

[Par Deus]

Yeah, we did a mini-run of the original version, which shipped out to us on Tuesday, so you'll see it in stores again next week.

The new formula version should run next week.

 

[Cool]

Maybe I missed this but, how does the new formula differ from the original?

 

[TheCrownedOne]

They're adding Green Tea Extract instead of sesathin. It's a mild PPAR alpha agonist and other than that it kicks ass anyway.

 

[Loki]

Plus we're dropping the price 10 bones.

 

[Mr.50]

If it works as good then that is great.

Plus we're dropping the price 10 bones.

 

[Par Deus]

We are all sold out, so get while the getting is good.

 

[DinoTrainer]

Par, with the Phenogen w/SesaThin in it, I asked once on your board if a 2 cap serving of Phenogen had the same amount of SesaThin as a one dose syringe of the liquid SesaThin, and I believe it was Tkrade who said that was the case.

Was he wrong???

I stocked up on alot of the old Phenogen, and when I use it, I would like to take only 3 servings of SesaThin, so if I take 6 caps of the old Phenogen, how much liquid sesaThin would I have to take???

thank you