phenogen and bulking

[Anarchy939]

I have been taking phenogen while trying to bulk, and feel like I have actually lost mass. Is this due to the ATP depletion from the 'aerobic' properties phenogen possesses, or is the problem elsewhere? Would you recommend I continue dosing phenogen or discontinue usage? Currently I take 2 caps 3x/day as indicated for clean bulking.

 

[Anarchy939]

I have also done some reading about Phenogen and how it depletes muscle creatine levels.. what would happen if one were to take creatine and phenogen at the same time??

 

[prolangtum]

I personally would opt for SesaThin for clean bulking.

 

[Loki]

I have also done some reading about Phenogen and how it depletes muscle creatine levels.. what would happen if one were to take creatine and phenogen at the same time??

"1 - 1 = 0"

 

[Loki]

I have been taking phenogen while trying to bulk, and feel like I have actually lost mass. Is this due to the ATP depletion from the 'aerobic' properties phenogen possesses, or is the problem elsewhere? Would you recommend I continue dosing phenogen or discontinue usage? Currently I take 2 caps 3x/day as indicated for clean bulking.

Both the Sesathin and the AMPk activation from the GPA is going to increase glucose oxidation/glycolysis, so chances are if your carb intake isn't high enough to keep up with the increased rate of substrate usage your muscle glycogen stores are going to be lower than normal. I would suggest either a.) increasing carbohydrate intake or b.) cutting back your dosage of Phenogen.