PH stack advice

[nduronio]

Looking for advice as to which PH stack I should go with next.. I am 26, 245lbs and about 9-10 bf%. My first cycle was about 3 months ago and it was Sup3r 1 with Sup3r 4 both at 3 caps a day for 8 weeks. I noticed some strength increase and a little size in my arms and shoulders. My goal is to basically just recomp for the spring. What are the best stacks currently for this? Thanks!

 

[Mitch_310]

I've found that the andros dosed high enough for 8 weeks to yield some decent gains. 1 andro ran at 330 for 8 weeks and 4 ran at 330 for 8 as well. If you want to go with a PH thats a lot stronger I would recommend dymethazine. It blows the andros out of the water and gives you lean gains. However, its a lot harsher. So on cycle support and tudca is a MUST, followed by a FULL pct of nolva or clomid. a good stack IMO would be DMZ at 30-40 mg for 6 weeks along with a 4 andro base to help the lethargy and keep libido up.

better yet though. have you considered just running just test? a better cycle would be Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks and 4-6 weeks of winny at the end of the cycle at 50mg to cut you up. you can run it much longer and you can make some permanent changes to your body. With the strong PH's you blow up quick but the gains are hard to hold onto since your body really can't put on 20lbs of muscle in 4-6 weeks. most of it will be glycogen retention. you might walk away with about half of what you put on even with a good pct. Its kind of a mental blow watching yourself deflate like that. Just my opinion.

sorry for the long response, but a good PH stack would be DMZ, 4 andro, epi andro dosed at DMZ:30/30/30/40/40/40 4andro:330 and epi: 750/750/1000/1000/1000/1000

 

[nduronio]

I've found that the andros dosed high enough for 8 weeks to yield some decent gains. 1 andro ran at 330 for 8 weeks and 4 ran at 330 for 8 as well. If you want to go with a PH thats a lot stronger I would recommend dymethazine. It blows the andros out of the water and gives you lean gains. However, its a lot harsher. So on cycle support and tudca is a MUST, followed by a FULL pct of nolva or clomid. a good stack IMO would be DMZ at 30-40 mg for 6 weeks along with a 4 andro base to help the lethargy and keep libido up.

better yet though. have you considered just running just test? a better cycle would be Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks and 4-6 weeks of winny at the end of the cycle at 50mg to cut you up. you can run it much longer and you can make some permanent changes to your body. With the strong PH's you blow up quick but the gains are hard to hold onto since your body really can't put on 20lbs of muscle in 4-6 weeks. most of it will be glycogen retention. you might walk away with about half of what you put on even with a good pct. Its kind of a mental blow watching yourself deflate like that. Just my opinion.

sorry for the long response, but a good PH stack would be DMZ, 4 andro, epi andro dosed at DMZ:30/30/30/40/40/40 4andro:330 and epi: 750/750/1000/1000/1000/1000

Thanks for the reply to my post. Love all the info man! I would try DMZ but another concern of mine is libido and erection quality. I’ve heard 1,4, Epi-Andro all stacked together is a nice stack that keeps the libido up? What are your thoughts? I’m guessing the Test E would be the best bet but I have 2 concerns with that, 1 being last time I pinned myself I couldn’t sit down without almost crying and 2nd is source reliability; I suppose I could go see a dr after running a quick ph cycle so it would show my T is low either that or the good ol darkweb.. any thoughts?

 

[Mitch_310]

Thanks for the reply to my post. Love all the info man! I would try DMZ but another concern of mine is libido and erection quality. I’ve heard 1,4, Epi-Andro all stacked together is a nice stack that keeps the libido up? What are your thoughts? I’m guessing the Test E would be the best bet but I have 2 concerns with that, 1 being last time I pinned myself I couldn’t sit down without almost crying and 2nd is source reliability; I suppose I could go see a dr after running a quick ph cycle so it would show my T is low either that or the good ol darkweb.. any thoughts?

Any prohormone is going to cause some natural test shutdown even something like the andros. The point of running test or 4andro is to keep giving your body some form of exogenous testosterone to keep you functioning properly when it comes to libido. Epi andro converts to DHT in the body, which is responsible for hair growth, aggression, and aids in sexual function.

What I’m trying to say is that no matter what you take if it’s an AAS or PH you will experience shutdown. DMZ will shut you down harder, but the andros will also shut you down. Personally, running something without 4 andro or test is what is going to cause problems. So adding 4 ad or test will help keep it up. But then again, it depends on the individual. Some people like myself don’t notice it too much. Others have full blown ed, others actually experience the opposite.

A big
Thing with libido is not only keeping test levels elevated. But also making sure your estrogen is in check. Since high estrogen is the culprit in most cases of low sex drive. Pick up some exem If you decide to go with running test or 4 ad. I find taking it as needed with the andros should be fine. It should help your cause and make functioning properly good to go. With DMZ a bigger issue would actually be the strain it puts on your liver. Not so much libido. But then again. It depends on the person.

I can’t discuss sources. But if you do some research and dig around you can find some legit places to buy gear If you want to go the pinning route. Otherwise 4ad epi and DMZ, exem as needed If you have any estrogen related problems. You should’ve have libido problems.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Thanks for the reply to my post. Love all the info man! I would try DMZ but another concern of mine is libido and erection quality. I’ve heard 1,4, Epi-Andro all stacked together is a nice stack that keeps the libido up? What are your thoughts? I’m guessing the Test E would be the best bet but I have 2 concerns with that, 1 being last time I pinned myself I couldn’t sit down without almost crying and 2nd is source reliability; I suppose I could go see a dr after running a quick ph cycle so it would show my T is low either that or the good ol darkweb.. any thoughts?

The first time you pinned you must’ve had some bad gear or something, whether there was a ton of solvents, or if the gear crashed, judging from how bad you said the pip was. Source reliability will come down to research, obviously some sources can be hit or miss, while others can be phenomenal; take time to do some research on source reviews. Now if you do decide to just stick with orals for now, I’d maybe look into giving epistane a go. As far as lethargy and libido is concerned, you can always add in some 4-andro.