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PH/DS cycle planning

Megatron1

Megatron1

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I get too excited with sales and have accumulated a bunch of goodies. Now I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle, which I'll be starting mid-march.

I have on hand epistane, DMZ, M-Sten, trest, ment, superdrol, m1alpha, 1-ad, 4-ad, and epiandro. I also have nolva, clomid, a bunch of otc pcts, tudca, etc. My last cycle was DMZ, 4-ad, and epistane. I gained a good 10 labs, kept 7-ish. Prior to that a round of halodrol which did absolutely nothing, might've been bunk.

I'm 35, 5'11, 180lbs, 10% bf.

I'm currently leaning towards M-Sten and trest, 4-6 weeks. Probably 20-30mg ed M-Sten and 90mg ed trest.

Thoughts or recommendations on how to maximize my stash?
 
Either the dmz, MSten, and M1A, 1:1:3, with trest. Or SD with trest.

20mg dmz, 20mg MSten, 60mg m1A, 60mg trest ED. Yup. That’s gonna be good.
 
Lol, the quad-whammy sounds a bit much for me. I'm still only a few methyls in, so a stack like that makes me nervous. Mostly about mah junk working.

But seriously, thanks for the input, guys.

What about aromitization of trest? From what I understand, epistane has some antiestrogenic properties so maybe that'd be a better pairing than M-Sten? Not sure epistane kills estro enough to completely offset the trest, though.

And unfortunately I've been unable to source adex or exem. My nolva and clomid source doesn't have it. I've never had problems with gyno, but again, my only methyls are halo, DMZ, and tren (tren about 12 years ago before I knew wtf I was doing, so I'm lucky there). If only I could figure out where to get pharm AI (hint, hint, link).
 
Megatron1 said:
Lol, the quad-whammy sounds a bit much for me. I'm still only a few methyls in, so a stack like that makes me nervous. Mostly about mah junk working
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If you’re taking trest you will have no problems with libido or anything working LOL. Mine was the best it’s ever been while running dmz,msten and trest along with epi andro pre workout.
 
Prolactin support is highly recommended. Depends on the person and dose of trest. Some can get away with something like inhibit p but most people go with caber or prami
 
i skip it altogether at this point.. i havnt had any issue to write home about. for me the aromatization is pretty high, so i need a good AI. if you need to use prami.. beware.. ramp up dose from a very low start. use it only eod.
 
Ryno94 said:
Prolactin support is highly recommended. Depends on the person and dose of trest. Some can get away with something like inhibit p but most people go with caber or prami
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Is one commonly recognized as 'better' than the other (caber vs prami)? Also, is this something to have on hand and treat as needed or something to proactively take on cycle to prevent?
 
Megatron1 said:
Is one commonly recognized as 'better' than the other (caber vs prami)? Also, is this something to have on hand and treat as needed or something to proactively take on cycle to prevent?
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People usually go with Caber instead of prami. To my knowledge both are pretty equally effective, caber just has less sides. I used liquid prami in my cycle mainly because it was easier to get ( through research company) however I did not notice any sides taking it before bed.

You could probably away with having it on hand and starting when needed. Comes down to the person really. I’m a better safe than sorry kind of guy so I would want to start using in the beginning because gyno and/or lactating scares me LOL. But these other guys would be a lot more knowledgeable than me about it considering I’ve only ran one cycle worrying about prolactin control
 
How does this look:

M-Sten 20/20/30/30/30/20
4-AD 330/330/330/220/220/220
Trest 45/45/90/90/90/45

Arimicare pro
Tudca
Eliminate
Multi
Fish oil
Other otc stuff

Also, what would a preemptive dosage of exem and prami look like? The sides (prami especially) sound terrible. I'm tempted to just treat estrogen/prolactin as needed.
 
Megatron1 said:
How does this look:

M-Sten 20/20/30/30/30/20
4-AD 330/330/330/220/220/220
Trest 45/45/90/90/90/45

Arimicare pro
Tudca
Eliminate
Multi
Fish oil
Other otc stuff

Also, what would a preemptive dosage of exem and prami look like? The sides (prami especially) sound terrible. I'm tempted to just treat estrogen/prolactin as needed.
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Caber.
 
Megatron1 said:
How does this look:

M-Sten 20/20/30/30/30/20
4-AD 330/330/330/220/220/220
Trest 45/45/90/90/90/45

Arimicare pro
Tudca
Eliminate
Multi
Fish oil
Other otc stuff

Also, what would a preemptive dosage of exem and prami look like? The sides (prami especially) sound terrible. I'm tempted to just treat estrogen/prolactin as needed.
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Trest is a fickle drug. Yes you can combat prolactin related sides with Prami. However, when we are talking about Gyno from Trest, Ralox or Nolva, FTR. I’m getting by with some Letro for a low dose injectable Trest Ace run, but believe me, once gyno starts showing up, that Letro becomes worthless other than shedding a little waterweight. Prami isn’t going to hurt matters, Letro either. But if it begins in those nips, you’ll be glad you had Ralox or Nolva around.
 
Not sure 4 ad is going to do much with trest in there.

But it might do a lot all things considered.
 
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