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PH diminishing returns

grngoloco

grngoloco

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I've seen logs of up to 150mg for h-drol and a gram a week for test among other really high doses of various things,,, at what point do you start getting diminishing returns to the point it's over kill?
 
I'm all for taking crazy amounts of stuff as long as the benefits outweigh the negs ..... just not sure more and even more is always better
 
depends on the compound really, most don't see much on halodrol over 125, superdrol over 30, test over 1g/week (or less if there is anything else in the mix). tren over 100mg ed (even that is getting extreme), dbol over 50mg, it goes on and on, i just don't want to type them all lol.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
depends on the compound really, most don't see much on halodrol over 125, superdrol over 30, test over 1g/week (or less if there is anything else in the mix). tren over 100mg ed (even that is getting extreme), dbol over 50mg, it goes on and on, i just don't want to type them all lol.

ManBeast
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So the numbers you posted are about the max you can see benefits from,, meaning any more is a waste?
 
125mg of hdrol itself is too much. i'd say 1g of test e/w, unless i was a competitive pro bb'r, would be too much as well.
 
for most people considering the compounds, they will hit the sweet spot below those doses, but even the biggest and baddest mofos shoudln't really be thinking above those doses.

ManBeast
 
I don't think anyone has the funds to test the upper limits of katanadrol :D most stack it so they can run a lower dose than the minimal really noticable solo (which is about 400mg/day).

ManBeast
 
highest i would ever go on hdrol is 100. some people tend to think they are super-human and can handle 50-100% above the recommended dosage..and what does that tell me? they arent ready for a cycle.
 
Ok,,, I'm about to start an hdrol/katanadrol/600mg a week test cycle as soon as I run out of tren in about four weeks or so..... with that mix and that amount of test,,, what's my max dosage if the sides are tolerable?
 
How long is your cycle bro jesus
grngoloco said:
Ok,,, I'm about to start an hdrol/katanadrol/600mg a week test cycle as soon as I run out of tren in about four weeks or so..... with that mix and that amount of test,,, what's my max dosage if the sides are tolerable?
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I'm on trt at 200 a week so pct is a.moot point
But the point of this thread was for the education of the masses,, not particularly about my specific cycle,,, just something you don't hear discussed often enough
 
I'm on one gram of test right now it's amazing SO MUCH better than 500mgs- fat loss is insane, and size is great too. BUT I'm basically running it by itself
 
I'm doing 500 with the tren and will keep that dose with the hella and kat,,, will go to 600 when I run it solo for the last 6 weeks followed by a 200 a week cruise
 
what is a 200 a week cruise? sounds like a ****y vacation...but seriously what is it
 
csa2179 said:
what is a 200 a week cruise? sounds like a ****y vacation...but seriously what is it
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its a dose of test, (or sometimes people like to run like 150 mast 100 test to cruise) that gives your body time to rest inbetween blasts, which are times of heavier use. People cruise often if their on trt or if they just dont want to PCT.
I.e Blast 600 test 300 deca, front loaded with 30mg dbol for 14 weeks then cruise on 200mg test for 4 weeks or until they figure out what they are blasting.
 
so when the hell do you come off the stuff and let your balls pick up the job?
 
csa2179 said:
so when the hell do you come off the stuff and let your balls pick up the job?
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For pro's a lot of the time its whenever they decide to stop bbing or take a break lol. For the average guy I dont think youll see many guys doing more than blast-cruise-blast-pct.
 
csa2179 said:
so when the hell do you come off the stuff and let your balls pick up the job?
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My test was at 160 before trt, before ever using AAS.. so I fired my balls and hired a doctor LOL
 
people who want to maintain their balls for cosmetic purposes on TRT get a doc who will perscribe HCG at a moderate dose weekly.
 
ManBeast said:
people who want to maintain their balls for cosmetic purposes on TRT get a doc who will perscribe HCG at a moderate dose weekly.
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I take 500iu a week.... thinking about doubling that though
 
Eh, shouldn't need to, it might do you better split into 2 doses though.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
Eh, shouldn't need to, it might do you better split into 2 doses though.

ManBeast
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Right now I'm doing 250i.u. e3d along with my b12.... I really think I've started to notice a bit of shrinkage,,, want to do a preimptive strike LOL
 
got it, maybe bump it up to 500iu for a week or two, and then see if you can find the lowest you can run it at (at too high for too long it has the ability to desensitize the leydig cells (not good), but you aren't approaching those doses yet, I'm just a fan of lowest for good gains (which is why I may or may not hit 125 on my halodrol cycle).
 
ManBeast said:
got it, maybe bump it up to 500iu for a week or two, and then see if you can find the lowest you can run it at (at too high for too long it has the ability to desensitize the leydig cells (not good), but you aren't approaching those doses yet, I'm just a fan of lowest for good gains (which is why I may or may not hit 125 on my halodrol cycle).
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I agree,,, I believe, also, it's a lot easier to prevent than to fix LOL
 
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