It certainly did just fall of the face of the earth, didn't it? I tried 2 months of it, and liked it - good sleep, increased vascularity, and it seemed to help lean me out, but it wasn't dramatic. I also got tired of pinning 2x/day! Universal kits said they were giving out a free bottle w/every order for a while, and dropped the price to $60. So $30/month isn't bad, but right now I'm spending my supp money on CEE
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