PES Prolific is one of the most disappointing releases of the year

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Melatonin ?? Its prescription drug ! Even piperine is not legal from USA or any 3rd. Countries. But I can order PH from UK. Or viagra etc. Thats just pathetic! The EU laws
Hahaha don't jinx it.
 

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Its sad but true bro!
It is man...Id love to know what these agencies have as criteria for restriction. Dunno about Norway but there is lots of foil hat rumors here re big pharma.
 
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Hahaha man there are so many more examples. Supps old people buy in a drug store here in Canada are prescription in EU/Scandinavia.
 
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Haahah true !
I don't even know if you can get Vitamin C without the police knocking on your door a few hours later.....
 
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I don't even know if you can get Vitamin C without the police knocking on your door a few hours later.....
Norway is not a member of Euro Union but it still follow the rules of EEA ( European Economic Area ).
It means, buying from EU countries or countries following EEA rules, there is no problem (even Prohormones which are still sold in UK and some other EU countries).

Lets say I want to buy NOW melatonin. From UK or other EU countries, its totaly ok. But from USA, its not allowed ! Even its still same brand etc.

Its all about the $. Tax ++
 
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Norway is not a member of Euro Union but it still follow the rules of EEA ( European Economic Area ).
It means, buying from EU countries or countries following EEA rules, there is no problem (even Prohormones which are still sold in UK and some other EU countries).

Lets say I want to buy NOW melatonin. From UK or other EU countries, its totaly ok. But from USA, its not allowed ! Even its still same brand etc.

Its all about the $. Tax ++
Yeah my cousin mentioned something like this before. This whole thread has got me curious, I'm definitely going to ask him for some more info on this topic.
 
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Yeah my cousin mentioned something like this before. This whole thread has got me curious, I'm definitely going to ask him for some more info on this topic.
Big Pharma ..big mafia !
 
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Synapsin , why the name its a weird name when yall have excellent name *Enhanced*
And for op stop whining it's ur country's FAULT, not pes.
New product, new name. Prolific is an excellent name IMO and will make sense once profile is revealed.
 

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New product, new name. Prolific is an excellent name IMO and will make sense once profile is revealed.
Ok I'll take ur word for it, I know yall have been developing this for the longesttttttttttttttttttttt, so im excited and it better give me wings :D!!!
 
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Lol @ Flush. They sell freaking Green tea bags 20x for 50 bucks! It's just 50% extract! I wouldn't buy a thing they market, it's criminal.
Pretty funny I work selling that in the shops lol giving samples then making sales of it. More than 20 tubs of green tea in one serve!!!!! Lmao
 
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Pretty funny I work selling that in the shops lol giving samples then making sales of it. More than 20 tubs of green tea in one serve!!!!! Lmao
What a joke! Basically standard Green Tea(tea bag) vs 20-50x just using a extract and charging a ton! People actually buy it and think it'll help as a fat burner hahahahhaa and Flush sponsor every 2nd wannabe fitness model to push this garbage.

I expect nothing less, the owner doesn't train. He travels the world eating and drinking judging by phoots. Flush got big of the back if USP Labs aka Oxy in tablets(y hcl, dmaa), full illegal version. I'm sure they've been fined a few times too.

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All this talk about the new pre (again) is starting to make me anxious! Is it ready yet??
 
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How about now?
 
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Pretty funny I work selling that in the shops lol giving samples then making sales of it. More than 20 tubs of green tea in one serve!!!!! Lmao
What a joke! Basically standard Green Tea(tea bag) vs 20-50x just using a extract and charging a ton! People actually buy it and think it'll help as a fat burner hahahahhaa and Flush sponsor every 2nd wannabe fitness model to push this garbage.

I expect nothing less, the owner doesn't train. He travels the world eating and drinking judging by phoots. Flush got big of the back if USP Labs aka Oxy in tablets(y hcl, dmaa), full illegal version. I'm sure they've been fined a few times too.

:/
wow and I thought G-C was bad, but it looks like this Flush place takes the cake for #1 garbage supplement pushing store!
 
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wow and I thought G-C was bad, but it looks like this Flush place takes the cake for #1 garbage supplement pushing store!
Theyre a distribution company.

Half their line up is garbage, and they market loads of bull**** products like coffee protein.

The reason why PES isn't huge here is FLUSH sell heaps of different fat burners so they won't push any company more than another.

Nutri Supps was doing Muscle Warfare back in the day, they had 1 million followers and this was years ago. The brand was huge here.

Flush have buying power, most of the market but they lack in pushing any companies as they have rights to too many companies. Basically a fail in my view.

The owners a nice guy, but like I said doesn't even train and the whole business was lucky with being built off USP Labs and the tablet version was always illegal here, they still imported it and sold it til the TGA fined them I think.

Too much crap in the market these days, fitness seems to be on the slight downturn here. I never buy here, too expensive.
 
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Theyre a distribution company.

Half their line up is garbage, and they market loads of bull**** products like coffee protein.

The reason why PES isn't huge here is FLUSH sell heaps of different fat burners so they won't push any company more than another.

Nutri Supps was doing Muscle Warfare back in the day, they had 1 million followers and this was years ago. The brand was huge here.

Flush have buying power, most of the market but they lack in pushing any companies as they have rights to too many companies. Basically a fail in my view.

The owners a nice guy, but like I said doesn't even train and the whole business was lucky with being built off USP Labs and the tablet version was always illegal here, they still imported it and sold it til the TGA fined them I think.

Too much crap in the market these days, fitness seems to be on the slight downturn here. I never buy here, too expensive.
sounds like you and Auslifter need to go into business together, open up your own store, and change the game!
 
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Soon. :)

We also have a small handful of products and developments which will be released in the next few months.
Sucks for us, shipping is a killer and I try do large orders. I stick to staples lately, that's it aka Ergonine ;)
 
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Sucks for us, shipping is a killer and I try do large orders. I stick to staples lately, that's it aka Ergonine ;)
Staples you say? Ergonine you say?

Maybe we will have some good things in store for you.

Time will tell. ;)
 
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Staples you say? Ergonine you say?

Maybe we will have some good things in store for you.

Time will tell. ;)
This is why I dont like using forums anymore, always waiting. Just tell me, just send it already ?
 
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This is why I dont like using forums anymore, always waiting. Just tell me, just send it already ��
Such a **** tease :p
Let me double check our release schedule and I will see if I can provide any more precise details. :)
hahaha I've learned that PES are great at 2 things: making effective supplements and teasing the **** out of people and creating insane anticipation!
 
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No lie there.

Spent years getting teased, but it's too hard not to.
This stuff is exciting, and the new releases are worth any/all hype.
 
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This thread sure turned around 180 degrees from where it started, didn't it!
Not surprising, considering how many people like the products / company.
 
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Staples you say? Ergonine you say?

Maybe we will have some good things in store for you.

Time will tell. ;)
ergonine elite, containing hard to source novel ergogens and another staple (for some) !? ;) or some re makes of old Athletix products
 
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This thread sure turned around 180 degrees from where it started, didn't it!
Not surprising, considering how many people like the products / company.
Yeah it's cool a criticism went & turned into a nice constructive discussion, which is why I love AM, great boards. Also, most threads involving PES contain a lot of love. That fact makes some people jelly, but let the negative Nancys......Nancy all they'd like???
 
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ergonine elite, containing hard to source novel ergogens and another staple (for some) !? ;) or some re makes of old Athletix products
On a completely random side tangent: I recently watched Animal Kingdom and now whenever I see you post all I can think about is you robbing banks and Australians committing crimes.
 
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Where I am going? You've released a substandard product. I and others hold your company in high regard. This is disappointing to me as a customer. I am airing my grievances on an appropriate forum. I understand that you can't include yohimbine or rauwolscine, but this is very ordinary.
Just use platinum labs defcon 1. Everything that is legal here disappoints me in comparison.
During comp prep I used to mix it with bulk nutrients no3x (adding hordine and amp citrate) and acetyl carnatine. It made the best pre trainer i have ever taken - it was ridiculous!
 
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Just use platinum labs defcon 1. Everything that is legal here disappoints me in comparison.
During comp prep I used to mix it with bulk nutrients no3x (adding hordine and amp citrate) and acetyl carnatine. It made the best pre trainer i have ever taken - it was ridiculous!
Old Defcon 1 was great. Second Strike...not so much
 
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Old Defcon 1 was great. Second Strike...not so much
I still like it. Is there anything else you can suggest instead? Its pretty expensive per serve here. Always on the lookout for something good.
 
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I still like it. Is there anything else you can suggest instead? Its pretty expensive per serve here. Always on the lookout for something good.
I'm in the U.S., so I don't have any Aussie recommendations. Second Strike isn't horrible, but with the release of Conqu3r Unleashed and the new Hypermax in the States, I've moved on. The OG Defcon 1 was my go-to for a long time though.
 
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Hahahaha what an amazing supp name.....SECOND STRIKE!

Sounds like a cheesy 80s action movie
 

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