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PES Norcodrene ??

jwsnowman said:
You haven't seen any progress with any of the above mentioned products? The majority consensus on some of the above products is that they are the best products/formulas in their respective categories, ex. X Factor Advanced, Anabeta, and Alpha T2.

Personally, I am also currently running norcodrene. If training in the morning I dose:

Pre-Morning Training
2 caps Norco
1 cap F95
1 cap AmentoMax
2 scoops High Volume

4-5 hours later
1 cap Norco
1 cap F95
1 cap AmentoMax
1 cap Target A2

4-5 hours later
Medium Black Coffee
1 cap F95
1 cap Target A2

If training in the evening I dose as follows:

Pre-Breakfast:
2 caps Norco
1 cap F95

4-5 hours later
1 cap Norco
1 cap F95
1 cap AmentoMax
1 cap Target A2

Pre-Training:
2 scoops Alphamine
2 scoops High Volume
1 cap F95
1 cap AmentoMax

After about 3 weeks I haven't lost any weight but I am noticeable leaner. It's looking like the mirror will be my guide during this cut!
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Solid setup man. Good luck and keep us posted.

I decided to start a Norcodrene run this morning. It's been 3 hours since dosing, energy and mood are great, and I haven't eaten or been hungry whatsoever. I start dieting with a fairly high caloric intake, so I'll have to eat shortly to make sure there's enough time to hit my target.
 
breezy11 said:
Solid setup man. Good luck and keep us posted.

I decided to start a Norcodrene run this morning. It's been 3 hours since dosing, energy and mood are great, and I haven't eaten or been hungry whatsoever. I start dieting with a fairly high caloric intake, so I'll have to eat shortly to make sure there's enough time to hit my target.
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Norcodrene's appetite suppression is pretty remarkable. I have been forgetting to eat lately because of it and have been having to make up my missed meals before bed.
 
aaronuconn said:
Outside of products containing stimulants, which you may not be feeling acutely due to a tolerance that has been built, most of those work with prolonged usage.
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Yes I am aware of that, and have run most of these for at least 8 weeks previously and have noticed very little. Diet and exercise is by far and away the biggest influence on my body, and obviously this is the most important thing anyway. Supps have never done much for me. I've heard many pros say they'll make 10% difference, if that... well I'm nowhere near that for sure!

On a side note, I get zero appetite suppression from Norco in addition to the absence of any mood benefits. Definitely a dud for me, but I'll stick at it and see what happens results wise.

I would say the one supplement that I actually 'felt' something on, and I think maybe did have some effect, was Recompadrol. Had a very distinctive feeling when I took that... maybe results were real, or imagined, who knows, but I felt like it was doing something. But that's it... out of ALL the supps I've taken, one kind of works. Great ha!
 
Johnston said:
Yes I am aware of that, and have run most of these for at least 8 weeks previously and have noticed very little. Diet and exercise is by far and away the biggest influence on my body. Supps have never done much for me. On a side note, I get zero appetite suppression from Norco in addition to the absence of any mood benefits. Definitely a dud for me, but I'll stick at it and see what happens results wise.
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Wow. Well now you have me intrigued. Noticed nothing from the Amentoflavone? It's like night and day for me when I take that or not.
Mind sharing me your nutrition protocol that has worked for you? And supplementation (despite you saying that nothing has worked for you).
 
ikeNball said:
Wow. Well now you have me intrigued. Noticed nothing from the Amentoflavone? It's like night and day for me when I take that or not.
Mind sharing me your nutrition protocol that has worked for you? And supplementation (despite you saying that nothing has worked for you).
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Amentoflavone is the mood thing then? Can't say I felt anything. First dose, I thought I did briefly, but I think it was just anticipation as I'd read so many great things about Norco I was sure it would do something for me.

Nothing complicated, just sticking to a regimented calorie controlled diet, always high protein and lots of good fats, Omega 3's, and being consistent with my workout routine. Staying off wheat DEFINITELY seems to work for me... just a general feeling I get when I eat lots of it, vs keeping my carbs to potatoes, rice etc. Regular HIIT helps of course, always feel better when I keep that up.
 
Cool. Appreciate the run down. What kind of HIIT? All that I do is 1-3 miles (4-15 intervals) on the treadmill. Going from 5.5mph (1min) to 10.0 (30 sec) intervals.
I do that maybe twice a week on top of lifting 5-6 days. And it definitely helps. Does take a toll on my CNS though.
Interesting about the wheat. But it makes sense.
 
ikeNball said:
Cool. Appreciate the run down. What kind of HIIT? All that I do is 1-3 miles (4-15 intervals) on the treadmill. Going from 5.5mph (1min) to 10.0 (30 sec) intervals.
I do that maybe twice a week on top of lifting 5-6 days. And it definitely helps. Does take a toll on my CNS though.
Interesting about the wheat. But it makes sense.
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I keep it simple, as I have an indoor bike at home so do 15-30 second sprints at 100% effort, followed by 60-90 second recovery... repeat this 6-10 times. Sounds easier than it is for sure! Yeah I don't know what it is with the wheat, I'm not coeliac or anything, but if I have too much it doesn't work for me.

T-Bone said:
Nothing is wrong with you, you're just honest about your results which is a good thing. You could also have high expectations of things because of people's embellishment of results of products they review online.
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Yes, you may be right there, I often get that sense the way some people eulogise about certain supplements, and I wonder how many are 'plants' from the manufacturers, or they're 'encouraged' to say overtly positive things. Easy to get sucked in and buy in to the hype, but I do try and stick with products that have some scientific basis to their claims... yet I've still been very underwhelmed by most things I've tried.
 
ikeNball said:
I see you dose the F-95 on top of the NorCo HV and AmentoMax. That is forskolin primarily am I correct? How does that benefit you.
To cut to the chase: just finished my 2nd bottle of NorCo. So taking a 4 week break from IT. But must I take a break from Amentoflavone altogether?
I'm honestly afraid of losing the mood benefits.
I plan on keeping the 1 scoop High Volume that I take w/ me PRE(either 1 scoop Condense or 2-3 acute FX + Green Mag from CL).
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Yes F-95 is a pure Forskolin product. Boosts cAMP, which in conjunction with Beta Agonists (Norcodrene) and Amentoflavone should improve body composition/fat loss.

Also, usual recommendation is 4 weeks off of Amentoflavone after 8 weeks continuous use or 12 weeks use only on workout days.
 
ikeNball said:
I see you dose the F-95 on top of the NorCo HV and AmentoMax. That is forskolin primarily am I correct? How does that benefit you.
To cut to the chase: just finished my 2nd bottle of NorCo. So taking a 4 week break from IT. But must I take a break from Amentoflavone altogether?
I'm honestly afraid of losing the mood benefits.
I plan on keeping the 1 scoop High Volume that I take w/ me PRE(either 1 scoop Condense or 2-3 acute FX + Green Mag from CL).
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Sorry I missed this earlier. I take my F95 basically year round but cut out the amento every 8 weeks as I take it everyday.
 
Synapsin said:
Agreed, I love adding it to my EC stack (using the caff from Norco as my C).
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I have a couple or questions about your stack here:

How do you find the norcoclaurine stacked with ephedrine?

How much ephedrine are you dosing with 2 caps and then with 1 cap.

Are you having a coffee or half a caffeine pill with the single cap dose to up the caffeine?

I've heard that norcodrene contains 125mg caffeine per cap, if this is true or roughly correct, I'd be ok with trying this out as well. I've used 250mg caffeine dosing with E before and was fine but once I attempted almost 300mg and I got a little racy.
 
jwsnowman said:
I have a couple or questions about your stack here:

How do you find the norcoclaurine stacked with ephedrine?

How much ephedrine are you dosing with 2 caps and then with 1 cap.

Are you having a coffee or half a caffeine pill with the single cap dose to up the caffeine?

I've heard that norcodrene contains 125mg caffeine per cap, if this is true or roughly correct, I'd be ok with trying this out as well. I've used 250mg caffeine dosing with E before and was fine but once I attempted almost 300mg and I got a little racy.
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While I do not personally recommend this as I said before, I just use norco with my ephedrine. I always use 24 mg doses of ephedrine with my norco. I do not drink coffee or try to increase my caff content.
 
Synapsin said:
While I do not personally recommend this as I said before, I just use norco with my ephedrine. I always use 24 mg doses of ephedrine with my norco. I do not drink coffee or try to increase my caff content.
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I was curious about this, think I'm going to give it a go. If it goes bad Ill just scale back to 100Mg of caffeine tabs
 
Has someone taken 2 pills of Norco upon waking and 2 other perwo? It's too much. I recall doing so with Alphamine (2 scoops+2 scoops) and no sides at all.
 
I have personally experimented with 2/2 but we cannot recommend anyone exceeds label instructions. :)
 
Another question. My pre-prewo consists of 20g soy lecithin granules+LCLT+1,5g ARA. Taking Norco after 20'-25' as prewo is considered as empty stomach or SL temper the effect like does food?
 
Feiwong said:
Another question. My pre-prewo consists of 20g soy lecithin granules+LCLT+1,5g ARA. Taking Norco after 20'-25' as prewo is considered as empty stomach or SL temper the effect like does food?
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I would personally consider that to be breaking your fast.
 
I have taken 2 and 2 without any real problems, but the heat is definitely stronger and it is almost uncomfortable. I didn't see any real improvement in effects. I may have even gone up to 3 and 3 - but I didn't admit that on the board (I know I'll take some flak). I think 2/1 is effective and 2/2 is really the most you should think about taking - the returns are diminishing after 3 pills/day. Even 4 pills a day just isn't anything special when compared to 3 pills, and going beyond that really didn't give me much extra. Although I think I only ran 6 for 1-2 days and decided it wasn't worth it.
 
victorypark said:
Any issues getting said product into Australia Sponge Tom??? I used to have dramas with Alphamine but now I just order it within Australia.
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I believe there's an eu version without any yohimbe. If you get that I think your good to go but one of the reps can confirm for sure.
 
Cheers Boone. Yeah I read the ingredients and appeared somewhat different. maybe the Aussie seller has put a different sticker/label over the top? I'll check the ingredients tonight and re-post confirming same.
 
victorypark said:
Cheers Boone. Yeah I read the ingredients and appeared somewhat different. maybe the Aussie seller has put a different sticker/label over the top? I'll check the ingredients tonight and re-post confirming same.
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Aussies should be getting the EU version that does not contain ; it contains Boldine instead.
 
saggy321 said:
If youre from the uk you can get both. Ive used the eu version and combined with forskolin its possibly the best fat loss stack Ive used.
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I'm looking into this stack but can't decide whether to go for Norco & F-95 or Norco & Alpha T2. Have you used the Norco & Alpha T2 stack before? If so how did it compare?

Also, when you were using Forskolin, what dosage were you using along with Norco?

Thanks in advance!
 
dazbo101 said:
I'm looking into this stack but can't decide whether to go for Norco & F-95 or Norco & Alpha T2. Have you used the Norco & Alpha T2 stack before? If so how did it compare?

Also, when you were using Forskolin, what dosage were you using along with Norco?

Thanks in advance!
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How experienced are you with yohimbe?

Variability amongst users is strong. A lot of people wouldn't want Alpha-T2 alongside it unless using half doses (a viable strategy for people who want more yohimbe but less caffeine). :)
 
dazbo101 said:
I'm looking into this stack but can't decide whether to go for Norco & F-95 or Norco & Alpha T2. Have you used the Norco & Alpha T2 stack before? If so how did it compare? Also, when you were using Forskolin, what dosage were you using along with Norco? Thanks in advance!
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Both would be great and effective. You can't really "feel" Forskolin work, but it is one supplement with excellent data behind it.

I would go with Norcodrene + Forskolin.

Dose 25-50mg with your Norcodrene doses but start out with 25mg of Forskolin to assess how you react (GI issues).
 
dazbo101 said:
I'm looking into this stack but can't decide whether to go for Norco & F-95 or Norco & Alpha T2. Have you used the Norco & Alpha T2 stack before? If so how did it compare?

Also, when you were using Forskolin, what dosage were you using along with Norco?

Thanks in advance!
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I'd go Norcodrene + Forskolin-95. I really think the combo shines.

25-50mg Forskolin-95 with each dose of Norcodrene (so 50-100mg daily).

Edit: Kbayne beat me to it. :p
 
bolt10 said:
I'd go Norcodrene + Forskolin-95. I really think the combo shines. 25-50mg Forskolin-95 with each dose of Norcodrene (so 50-100mg daily). Edit: Kbayne beat me to it. :p
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Got too much coffee running through me. I'm on my forum grind just spittin out info this morning before work lol.
 
kbayne said:
Got too much coffee running through me. I'm on my forum grind just spittin out info this morning before work lol.
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Haha cheers lads! Gonna go with what you suggested and get some ordered this weekend. I've had good results with T2 before but everywhere I look there's rave reviews about F-95. Looking forward to it!!
 
dazbo101 said:
Haha cheers lads! Gonna go with what you suggested and get some ordered this weekend. I've had good results with T2 before but everywhere I look there's rave reviews about F-95. Looking forward to it!!
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Definitely let us know how it goes or if you have any other questions. :)
 
ikeNball said:
I'm dying without NorCo. Day 2 of a 4 week break. Question---ok to use Alphamine while on this break? Thoughts?
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Mate just get through the next couple of days and it will get easier. I suffered noticeable withdrawal when coming off a 10 week stint.
 
saggy321 said:
Mate just get through the next couple of days and it will get easier. I suffered noticeable withdrawal when coming off a 10 week stint.
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Thanks bub I will do it. Mood is impacted and appetite is noticeably more voracious. What (if anything) did you do to combat the lack of NorCo?
 
ikeNball said:
Thanks bub I will do it. Mood is impacted and appetite is noticeably more voracious. What (if anything) did you do to combat the lack of NorCo?
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just keep busy to keep your mind off it. It's not the end of the world ha
 
ikeNball said:
Thanks bub I will do it. Mood is impacted and appetite is noticeably more voracious. What (if anything) did you do to combat the lack of NorCo?
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Nothing....just pushed through it. I suffered pretty bad...muscle pain, insommnia and headaches but after about five days things improved.
 
Auslifter said:
i think dem delts are scary

but bdcc has the best biceps ;)
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<3

... Alan Aragon verified. ;)

ikeNball said:
Thanks bub I will do it. Mood is impacted and appetite is noticeably more voracious. What (if anything) did you do to combat the lack of NorCo?
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You forget how good it is for appetite suppression until you stop taking it lol.
 
Seriously...my voracious appetite is annoying. Been able to stabilize it. And doesn't hurt me to bump UP my calories sporadically. But I will say...the mood enhancement that I'm missing from the Amentoflavone is glaring. One week without and pushing strong though!
 
ikeNball said:
Seriously...my voracious appetite is annoying. Been able to stabilize it. And doesn't hurt me to bump UP my calories sporadically. But I will say...the mood enhancement that I'm missing from the Amentoflavone is glaring. One week without and pushing strong though!
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Well done mate. Only three weeks to go. I start Alphamine on Monday after a six break from stims! Sorry to rub it in ;-)
 
ikeNball said:
Seriously...my voracious appetite is annoying. Been able to stabilize it. And doesn't hurt me to bump UP my calories sporadically. But I will say...the mood enhancement that I'm missing from the Amentoflavone is glaring. One week without and pushing strong though!
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I am the same as you. At the end of my diet I felt perpetually hungry, even right after eating.

It is why I had to transition to Norcodrene instead of Alphamine, I needed as much appetite suppression as possible lol.

saggy321 said:
Well done mate. Only three weeks to go. I start Alphamine on Monday after a six break from stims! Sorry to rub it in ;-)
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Six week break from all caffeine?

I remember when I last did that.



... around a decade ago. ;)
 
saggy321 said:
Well done mate. Only three weeks to go. I start Alphamine on Monday after a six break from stims! Sorry to rub it in ;-)
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If I was being a demon of peer pressure I would offer to send you a tub of cherry limeade.

UK next day delivery. I could get it to you by tomorrow.

#JustSaying ;)
 
bdcc said:
If I was being a demon of peer pressure I would offer to send you a tub of cherry limeade. UK next day delivery. I could get it to you by tomorrow. #JustSaying ;)
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we all know you couldn't actually part with one of your tubs of alphamine... They're like your children ha
 
booneman77 said:
we all know you couldn't actually part with one of your tubs of alphamine... They're like your children ha
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That face you make when your girlfriend asks if she can borrow a scoop.

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saggy321 said:
Well done mate. Only three weeks to go. I start Alphamine on Monday after a six break from stims! Sorry to rub it in ;-)
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6 week break. Hey no offense taken. That's some damn good will power!
That first scoop of Alpha-crack is better than some illegal powder I tried in college...
 
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